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N4 Ratings..anyone really know

Dixiemand

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by Dixiemand » Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:15:31

I've gotten mixed responses to this in the past so please pardon the repeat.
Can anyone tell me how to upate ratings for the driver in N4? Some have said it
is automatic...others recommend going to a website (that I can't find by the
way), others say use "update me" whatever the hell that is.  I have raced in
approx 15 "rated" pick up races, 2 wins, but no change to ratings. Still all
0's. Is this normal or am I just a pathetic driver :)  Any help appreciated,
Dan
Larr

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by Larr » Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:09:14

Little is known about the scoring system.  Papyrus will not document it,
which is horseshit.

But, this much is sure.  You have to run in races that have the scoring
enabled.  Look for the 0-10 number, which is what most use.  It shows the
range of skill levels that can join that race.  If it just has a "-" in that
column, or is empty, then running that race will not count towards your
skill ranking at all.

-Larry


Dixiemand

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by Dixiemand » Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:02:51

I knew if I opened my mouth wide enough my foot would fit. Just after posting I
ran N4 online and now have rating. Patience patience
Kevin Anderso

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by Kevin Anderso » Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:37:06

I will tell you what I think. We are rated from 1-10. There is an average
number required to move up in rating. You get a score each time you race.
You could move up a rating in just one race if say you win it and there
was30 cars in it. Your race scores will be averaged to together until you
either go up a rating or down. Only the last 10 races average. The score you
get in the race depends on how many cars and your finishing position. You
only get points compared to other drivers within 2 ratings of you. You will
not get points for beating a rating 6 driver if you are only a 1, and vice
versa. So, if you finish 5th out of 15, you would subtract the points of the
cars ahead of you from the points you receive from being ahead of the others
10 cars. But only cars within 2 ratings will effect your score.

In your case if you are racing race after race and finishing mid pack or
farther back you will never get a rating. The cars ahead will always negate
the cars behind. When I race I look at how many have entered, If there are
28 in race, then I know I have to finish at least14th or better to even
possibly get a positive  score.

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Kevin Anderson


John Simmon

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by John Simmon » Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:10:52



I don't know the precise calaulctaions they use, but the deal is this:

1) The races have to be setup with skill limits, or it won't count
towards your skill level.  It'll usually say "0-10" in the skill column.

2) The lower your skill, the easier it is to gain skill points,
because...

3) If you finish ahead of someone with a higher skill rating, your skill
"factor" is higher than if you were to beat someone with a lower skill
rating.  If you finish ahead of a BUNCH of folks with higher or equal
skill, the chances are pretty good that you'll move up a notch after
that race, especially if you place in the top 5 or 10.

4) I think I've heard that the skill rating system won't kick in for
races with fewer than 10 people in the race.

5) I believe that it may be harder/impossible to get a skill increase if
you race in arcade races as wll, but I'm not sure.

The key to increasing your skill in pickup races is this - compete in
big-field events (20+ cars already joined) that have skill limits
posted, and don't qualify (so that you start in the back).  At this
point, you stand a pretty good chance of placing in the top 10 because a
lot of people who get wrecked out on lap one will usually quit.  Do your
best to avoid the accidents and intentional wreckers, and you'll stand a
good chance of increasing your skill (or at least taking a big step
towards doing so.  The moment of most imminent danger for a back-marker
at the start of an online pickup race is lap one/turn one.  If you can
make it through unscathed, you should stand a good chance of finishing
well.

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Daddyo6

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by Daddyo6 » Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:49:24

Wow, both very interesting theories and very informative. Thanks for the info,
I plan to try a few things. Thanks again,
Dan
Don Jenning

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by Don Jenning » Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:25:43

Dixiemandan wrote ...

One of the things that can lead to mixed responses is that we could be
talking about 2 different things when we talk about "driver ratings".  You
were clearly talking about your own on-line ranking on the Sierra servers.
It sounds like some of the people who responded to you were talking about
the "driver ratings" built into the computer cars that cause Dale Jarrett's
car to average better results than Kenny Wallace's.  There are websites that
can give you numbers to put in for each of the cars to simulate last year's
(or this year's) results.

Daddyo6

N4 Ratings..anyone really know

by Daddyo6 » Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:57:13

Absolutley right. I should have been clearer about online rankings and not
offline driver info. Thanks for the input,
Dan


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