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Another GPL framerate report (long-ish)

Graeme Nas

Another GPL framerate report (long-ish)

by Graeme Nas » Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Hi all,

Since this NG has been so helpful to me in the past I thought I would
post my framerate details in the hope that they may help someone who has
a similar system and is still worrying about whether to buy GPL or not..

MY SYSTEM
---------

CPU:      MMX P200.
RAM:      32Mb in SIMM format.
M'Board:  VX
Graphics: 8Mb Hercules Thriller PCI.
L2 Cache: 512k
Sound:    Sound Blaster Pro PCI (embarassingly crap, I know).

TRAINING
--------

Type:      Solo.
Textures:  All on except clouds and beveled tyres.
Objects:   All.
Quality:   All off.
Effects:   All on except skidmarks.
Bias:      75% to the left
Sounds:    4
Framerate: Usually 36fps, sometimes drops to 31/32 in a "moment".

RACE
----

Type:      11 AI
Textures:  Clouds, beveled tyres, horizon, objects, crowds, track OFF.
Objects:   All.
Quality:   All off.
Effects:   All on except skidmarks.
Bias:      99% to the left
Sounds:    3
Framerate: 17/18 on the grid, 20 at start, 26-32 in the race. Max 36.

Hopefully this info will help someone. If you have a system like mine
and still haven't got GPL, then I really would advise you to get it. You
won't be disappointed..........!!!!! It is very playable even at less
than optimal framerate and it really is an amazing experience.

Cheers!

--
Graeme Nash

You know what to do with "don't_spam_me"...
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
ICQ# 11257824

"My car appeared to disagree with my preference for living"

Marc Collin

Another GPL framerate report (long-ish)

by Marc Collin » Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Just so long as people know that the key item in your set-up is the Thriller
3D 8MB.  With almost any other video card in existence, including SLI'd
Voodoo IIs, your frame rates would be unplayable (single digits and ***s)
in any mode where other cars are on the track.

Marc.


>Hi all,

>Since this NG has been so helpful to me in the past I thought I would
>post my framerate details in the hope that they may help someone who has
>a similar system and is still worrying about whether to buy GPL or not..

>MY SYSTEM
>---------

>CPU:      MMX P200.
>RAM:      32Mb in SIMM format.
>M'Board:  VX
>Graphics: 8Mb Hercules Thriller PCI.
>L2 Cache: 512k
>Sound:    Sound Blaster Pro PCI (embarassingly crap, I know).

>TRAINING
>--------

>Type:      Solo.
>Textures:  All on except clouds and beveled tyres.
>Objects:   All.
>Quality:   All off.
>Effects:   All on except skidmarks.
>Bias:      75% to the left
>Sounds:    4
>Framerate: Usually 36fps, sometimes drops to 31/32 in a "moment".

>RACE
>----

>Type:      11 AI
>Textures:  Clouds, beveled tyres, horizon, objects, crowds, track OFF.
>Objects:   All.
>Quality:   All off.
>Effects:   All on except skidmarks.
>Bias:      99% to the left
>Sounds:    3
>Framerate: 17/18 on the grid, 20 at start, 26-32 in the race. Max 36.

>Hopefully this info will help someone. If you have a system like mine
>and still haven't got GPL, then I really would advise you to get it. You
>won't be disappointed..........!!!!! It is very playable even at less
>than optimal framerate and it really is an amazing experience.

>Cheers!

>--
>Graeme Nash

>You know what to do with "don't_spam_me"...
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>ICQ# 11257824

>"My car appeared to disagree with my preference for living"

SteveBla

Another GPL framerate report (long-ish)

by SteveBla » Thu, 22 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>Just so long as people know that the key item in your set-up is the Thriller
>3D 8MB.  With almost any other video card in existence, including SLI'd
>Voodoo IIs, your frame rates would be unplayable

On the contrary:  Graeme & I corresponded about FPS on a 200mmx before he got
his Thriller(wonder if that's like Stella getting her groove), and here's the
text of the message. This didn't originate as a post, so forgive the length.


Note: These numbers were taken at Spa, so they'll vary somewhat with other
courses

Training:
resolution: 800x600, though 1024x768 is ok for 98% efforts(learning tracks,
tuning, etc.); about a 3-5 FPS hit in solo mode
mirror detail: cars only
trackside objects: all
detail bias: midway
features: all on except; crowds(my driving must've scared 'em off), driver
arms(already have some & they're distracting anyway), & clouds(the tan needs
some work)
quality: all on
effects: fire, smoke, and sparks on(guess I like drama) - rest off

--with these settings, I get FPS readings generally in the low 30's, maxing out
at 36 at points, with a minimum of about 24 at La Source.  The low readings are
very short-lived, and driving is fine.  I've run the various settings all the
way down, to max out the FPS for the full lap to compare the driveability, and
these settings are good.

Racing:
Ahh, here's the tricky bit.
resolution: 800x600; I only get about a 1 FPS hit versus 640x480. 1024x768 is a
bit much, though.
mirror detail: cars only
trackside objects: all - I like them for braking reference points; medium may
satisfy you
detail bias: FULL LEFT - VERY IMPORTANT - anything else, and you get MAJOR FPS
drops in traffic.
features: as above, but also turn off; object textures, driver texture, &
***pit texture - you don't lose much if you've got the arms off anyway.
quality: all off - it's surprising how little you lose here. It's quite subtle.
(note: with a V2, you can't access the anit-aliasing choice, so I can't tell
you about that one.  I expect you'd want to hold onto that.)
effects:all off (plenty of drama without)
number of competitors:  I've settled on 14, for a field of 15.  Less, and you
don't have as many mortal-speed drivers (backmarkers) to compete with; more,
and you take a greater FPS hit.

--with these, I get 15-16 FPS sitting in back of the grid at Spa, quickly
moving into the mid to upper 20's during the race.  It generally stays around
there, but will briefly drop to 19 or spike to 30+, depending on conditions.
If you get into a pileup, it'll drop below 10; so....don't.  The driveability
is degraded a bit from training, but I'm still below 3:30 consistently while
racing; my best single lap at Spa so far is 3:27.52, so that's ok.  Still
working on a top-five finish.

End Note:  These were in Novice Mode, and I've found that the more advanced
damage models seem to eat up 1-2FPS more; otherwise they stil hold.  Grid
position will change beginning FPS slightly as well.  BUT - it's still quite
allright, and I've managed to win a 9-lap intermediate race at Spa from pole

UNPLAYABLE.

Steve B.

David Mast

Another GPL framerate report (long-ish)

by David Mast » Thu, 22 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>Just so long as people know that the key item in your set-up is the Thriller
>3D 8MB.  With almost any other video card in existence, including SLI'd
>Voodoo IIs, your frame rates would be unplayable (single digits and ***s)
>in any mode where other cars are on the track.

In my mind, you overstate.  I have 200mmx oc/225 and a Voodoo1.  True, I also
have 64MB of SDRAM.  I typically race a 12-car field with higher graphics
level than the original poster:

all textures excepting clouds
50% detail level
"many" objects
all "quality" items
"cars only" in mirrors
4 sounds

Yes, my FR drops to the mid-***s at the start.  But it is over 20 soon after
and often in the 30 range.   This at Monza.


>>MY SYSTEM
>>CPU:      MMX P200.
>>RAM:      32Mb in SIMM format.
>>M'Board:  VX
>>Graphics: 8Mb Hercules Thriller PCI.
>>L2 Cache: 512k
>>Sound:    Sound Blaster Pro PCI (embarassingly crap, I know).

Jonathan Throwe

Another GPL framerate report (long-ish)

by Jonathan Throwe » Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Hi
I take all this to mean thaw with my Pentium pro 200Mhz
with 96m of memory
it would be best to fit a Voodoo 2 card for graphics?
any advice would be helpful as i do not want to buy the wrong card!
Jon

--




>>Just so long as people know that the key item in your set-up is the
Thriller
>>3D 8MB.  With almost any other video card in existence, including SLI'd
>>Voodoo IIs, your frame rates would be unplayable (single digits and ***s)
>>in any mode where other cars are on the track.

>In my mind, you overstate.  I have 200mmx oc/225 and a Voodoo1.  True, I
also
>have 64MB of SDRAM.  I typically race a 12-car field with higher graphics
>level than the original poster:

>all textures excepting clouds
>50% detail level
>"many" objects
>all "quality" items
>"cars only" in mirrors
>4 sounds

>Yes, my FR drops to the mid-***s at the start.  But it is over 20 soon
after
>and often in the 30 range.   This at Monza.



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