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Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

Jonathon Gree

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Jonathon Gree » Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:00:00

GPL devotees may be interested to know that  February edition of
"Motorsport" has driving impressions (and some b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l-l
photographs) of an Eagle (this particular one, chassis number AAR103 was
driven to third place at Mosport) and a Lotus 49B (Can't find a chassis
number for this one, but it belongs to Classic Team Lotus,  has two Monaco
wins to its credit, and was driven by Jochen Ruindt, John Miles, and Emerson
Fitipaldi).

Autosport describes this pair as "Beauty and the Best", not unreasonably
suggesting that the Eagle was the prettiest car of its time (possibly the
prettiest ever) and the Lotus the best, and note that Gurney claims the
Eagle was capable of out-accelerating the mighty
Murasama^x^x^x^x^x^x^x^xHonda RA300, generally regarded as the most powerful
car of the '67 season...

GPL afficionados will not be surprised that while its not really a fair
comprison (the Lotus is a 49B with the benefit of a couple of years
development and running on wider '69 style tyres), the Eagle was regarded by
the authors (Andrew Frankel and Matthew Franey) as being very forgiving and
remarkably easy to drive, and there are some shots of the car _very_
sideways (the contention being that how far sideways, and for how long the
car could be made to go was limited only by steering lock!)  to support this
assertion, but that (obviously - it's two years newer and on bigger tyres)
the Lotus was ultimately quicker.

If your local newsagent carries the magazine it will jump out at you
straight away, as it's got a cover photo of the two cars on it, if you can't
find it locally (reasonably easy to get hold of here in the UK, but I don't
know what international distributions like), order _two_ copies because the
first one will be very soggy indeed when you've finished drooling over it...

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JG

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JG

Woodie

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Woodie » Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:00:00



>GPL devotees may be interested to know that  February edition of
>"Motorsport" has driving impressions (and some b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l-l
>photographs) of an Eagle (this particular one, chassis number AAR103 was
>driven to third place at Mosport) and a Lotus 49B (Can't find a chassis
>number for this one, but it belongs to Classic Team Lotus,  has two Monaco
>wins to its credit, and was driven by Jochen Ruindt, John Miles, and Emerson
>Fitipaldi).

Sounds like R10, which began life as R5.  Seems bizarre that they didn't
mention Graham Hill since he was the driver for those two Monaco wins.  Also
driven by Mario Andretti at Watkins Glen in '68 as R5.

Don McCorkle

Eldre

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Eldre » Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:00:00



>wins to its credit, and was driven by Jochen Ruindt, John Miles, and Emerson

                                                                  ^^^^^^^
I realize this was a typo, but it sure *fits* sometimes...<g>

Eldred

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Bruce Kennewel

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I shall look forward to that issue, Jonathon, which should arrive here by
slow packet steamer around April.
We (those who simply reserve a copy each month with the newsagent rather
than taking out an airmail subscription) are eargerly awaiting the December
issue even as I type!
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Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Graeme Nas

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Graeme Nas » Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Bought this issue today, a great read. Also in the editorial there is a
mention and plug for GPL! Apparently there was a small mention of it in
an earlier issue, and the magazine was "swamped" with letters about it!

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Graeme Nash

Rafe McAulif

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Rafe McAulif » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

LOL!!
Peter Nilss

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Peter Nilss » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Ehhhh.. OK, call me daft, but I think I need to get this joke
explained to me!   :-)

/petern^H^H^H^H^H^Hbillgates



>LOL!!

>>>wins to its credit, and was driven by Jochen Ruindt, John Miles, and Emerson
>>                                                                  ^^^^^^^
>>I realize this was a typo, but it sure *fits* sometimes...<g>

>>Eldred

Eldre

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Eldre » Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:00:00


(Peter Nilsson) writes:
>Ehhhh.. OK, call me daft, but I think I need to get this joke
>explained to me!   :-)

>/petern^H^H^H^H^H^Hbillgates



>>LOL!!

>>>>wins to its credit, and was driven by Jochen Ruindt, John Miles, and
>Emerson
>>>                                                                  ^^^^^^^
>>>I realize this was a typo, but it sure *fits* sometimes...<g>

>>>Eldred

Obviously, you've never had Jochen wreck a good race for you....
He has a reputation for being...uh, AGGRESSIVE...  :)

Eldred
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Graeme Nas

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Graeme Nas » Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I think the reason he didn't get it was that in my newsreader the ^^^^^
showed up under "Emerson", so it might have been the same in his :-)

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Cheers!
Graeme Nash

Peter Nilss

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Peter Nilss » Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:59:56 +0000, Graeme Nash


>>Obviously, you've never had Jochen wreck a good race for you....
>>He has a reputation for being...uh, AGGRESSIVE...  :)

>I think the reason he didn't get it was that in my newsreader the ^^^^^
>showed up under "Emerson", so it might have been the same in his :-)

Indeed it was. See my quote, even.

/petern

Eldre

Track test: Lotus 49B v Eagle-Weslake T1G

by Eldre » Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:00:00



>>Obviously, you've never had Jochen wreck a good race for you....
>>He has a reputation for being...uh, AGGRESSIVE...  :)

>I think the reason he didn't get it was that in my newsreader the ^^^^^
>showed up under "Emerson", so it might have been the same in his :-)

DOH!
Showed up fine in *mine*....<shrug>

Eldred
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