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ProControl HeelnToe?

John Penoy

ProControl HeelnToe?

by John Penoy » Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Having just joined the IVGA, I noticed tthat the official controller is
a nice looking set up called the Pro-Control ProWhhel Driving System II.

I have a qustion, the ad says that the pedals are adjustable for heel and
toe or left foot braking.  Why should anyone care?  Isn't the output from
the pedals on the same axis as the T2?  If so how, then the game only
sees one number not 2.  Other than smoothness (debatable) you aren't
getting anything like the control afforded by left foot braking on a real
car.  It would be nice to see some sims in the future that allow separate
analog inputs for clutch, brake, accel, steering (you've got 4 axis
right)Of course this would mean that those of us with T2s could by the
upgrade kit from Trustmaster for the Clutchpedal and modify the Brake
Pot.  I wouldn't put too fine a point on this, but I have been
thinking of the feasibility of adding a clutch, in the sims -- I'm still
using autoshift and braking help so I'm not ready yet. I'd rather find a
paddle shifter and pretend indycars have pnumatic clutches like F1.  
        If anyone does know if left foot braking is supported using pedals,
and wheather it makes a difference, please let me know.  I used to havea
Mario Andretti Racing game where you could use left foot braking
(with the joystick buttons) and it made a big difference.

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Neil Yeatma

ProControl HeelnToe?

by Neil Yeatma » Fri, 22 Mar 1996 04:00:00


> Having just joined the IVGA, I noticed tthat the official controller is
> a nice looking set up called the Pro-Control ProWhhel Driving System II.

> I have a qustion, the ad says that the pedals are adjustable for heel and
> toe or left foot braking.  Why should anyone care?  Isn't the output from
> the pedals on the same axis as the T2?  If so how, then the game only
> sees one number not 2.  Other than smoothness (debatable) you aren't
> getting anything like the control afforded by left foot braking on a real
> car.  It would be nice to see some sims in the future that allow separate
> analog inputs for clutch, brake, accel, steering (you've got 4 axis
> right)Of course this would mean that those of us with T2s could by the
> upgrade kit from Trustmaster for the Clutchpedal and modify the Brake
> Pot.  I wouldn't put too fine a point on this, but I have been
> thinking of the feasibility of adding a clutch, in the sims -- I'm still
> using autoshift and braking help so I'm not ready yet. I'd rather find a
> paddle shifter and pretend indycars have pnumatic clutches like F1.
>         If anyone does know if left foot braking is supported using pedals,
> and wheather it makes a difference, please let me know.  I used to havea
> Mario Andretti Racing game where you could use left foot braking
> (with the joystick buttons) and it made a big difference.

Well, on the T2, left foot braking *does* work.  I don't know why, because
they *are* on the same joystick axis, but they do.  The best way off the
grass, for example, is to gas it and feather the brake to keep from spinning.  

Also, on a couple of ovals, I've set my best speeds by keeping the gas pedal
matted, and by easing the brakes on...an effect that can't be done by simply
lifting off the gas.  So there definitely seems to be input on both sides of
that axis (or am I just smoking too much of the herb?).

Anybody else agree?

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Justin VonHage

ProControl HeelnToe?

by Justin VonHage » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I agree.  Can press both and have both work
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Mark McCue

ProControl HeelnToe?

by Mark McCue » Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:00:00



> > Having just joined the IVGA, I noticed tthat the official controller is
> > a nice looking set up called the Pro-Control ProWhhel Driving System II.

> > I have a qustion, the ad says that the pedals are adjustable for heel and
> lifting off the gas.  So there definitely seems to be input on both sides of
> that axis (or am I just smoking too much of the herb?).

> Anybody else agree?

Well there's a fast way to find out.  Bury both the brake and the gas.
I think you'll find the it *does* work.

1. Procontrols Web ?

2. Anyone have experience with the Thomas Super Wheel or ProControl Racing Wheel?

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