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N4 Setups

Rust

N4 Setups

by Rust » Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:57:55

Just got N4, looks great.  Is it possible to make a fast setup that
does not pull to the left?  Can't get used to turning right going down
the straights.
                                        Rusty
Tom Hanse

N4 Setups

by Tom Hanse » Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:04:53

You will get used to it pretty quick.  The pull is from camber, caster,
left-side weight, low left side air pressure etc.  You will not be fast
through the turns if you try and eliminate it.
/TomH
Dave Henri

N4 Setups

by Dave Henri » Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:47:20


   You can equalize the setup and reduce the camber settings but
that won't be a "fast" setup.  If you want to go fast you must turn right.
(ask any dirt tracker about that....)
dave henrie
Dog-Le

N4 Setups

by Dog-Le » Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:48:07

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If you have a FF wheel, this is a reasonable statement.

But, if you have a non-FF wheel, or use a FF wheel in non-FF mode (which I
do), then until a Trim Tab is added to the setups you will either have to
fight the wheel, or fight the car, depending on the setup.

The reason I don't enable FF in N4 is because the FF programming for Dega
and Tona is screwed up, IMHO.  It is WAY too loose around the center, and
with the more aggressive ratios for steering in N4, it's hard not to wander
around on the track.  There just isn't enough tension in the FF centering
forces at these two tracks.

The best balance I've found is to use the SideWinder Software, set the
Centering Spring to Medium, and set N4 to FF Disabled.  At least I can drove
at the superspeedways without it feeling like I'm driving a 1966 Chysler
Imperial (the true "finger-steer" car).

-Larry


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Thom j

N4 Setups

by Thom j » Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:36:02

After many hours or adjusting & re-adjusting my FF wheel I found that the
32:1 is too sloppy for me {being a GPLer for years with a tight steer lock}
So I run from 20:1 to even all the way down to 12:1 & have no problems
on the Super Speedways.. {putting my $.02 worth in...lol}
Cheers Thom_j.

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| If you have a FF wheel, this is a reasonable statement.
|
| But, if you have a non-FF wheel, or use a FF wheel in non-FF mode (which I
| do), then until a Trim Tab is added to the setups you will either have to
| fight the wheel, or fight the car, depending on the setup.
|
| The reason I don't enable FF in N4 is because the FF programming for Dega
| and Tona is screwed up, IMHO.  It is WAY too loose around the center, and
| with the more aggressive ratios for steering in N4, it's hard not to
wander
| around on the track.  There just isn't enough tension in the FF centering
| forces at these two tracks.
|
| The best balance I've found is to use the SideWinder Software, set the
| Centering Spring to Medium, and set N4 to FF Disabled.  At least I can
drove
| at the superspeedways without it feeling like I'm driving a 1966 Chysler
| Imperial (the true "finger-steer" car).
|
| -Larry
|


| > > Just got N4, looks great.  Is it possible to make a fast setup that
| > > does not pull to the left?  Can't get used to turning right going down
| > > the straights.
| > You will get used to it pretty quick.  The pull is from camber, caster,
| > left-side weight, low left side air pressure etc.  You will not be fast
| > through the turns if you try and eliminate it.
| > /TomH
| >
| >
|
|
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Thom j

N4 Setups

by Thom j » Thu, 01 Mar 2001 05:50:37

LoL "Dog-Leg" aka Larry.. I know there is a hidden meaning aka joke
here but I guess I am getting to old?.. Enlighten me aka Clue me in.. :-)
Cheers Thom_j.


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| Ah, the ol' "Breath, turn left" method :)
|
| -Larry
|


| > After many hours or adjusting & re-adjusting my FF wheel I found that
the
| > 32:1 is too sloppy for me {being a GPLer for years with a tight steer
| lock}
| > So I run from 20:1 to even all the way down to 12:1 & have no problems
| > on the Super Speedways.. {putting my $.02 worth in...lol}
| > Cheers Thom_j.
<snipped for NG space>

Dog-Le

N4 Setups

by Dog-Le » Fri, 02 Mar 2001 00:51:08

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No real hidden meaning :)

Just don't breath on the wheel too hard.  With it set that touchy at Dega or
Tona, you might end up driving 5 miles per Lap instead of 2.5 miles :)

-Larry


> LoL "Dog-Leg" aka Larry.. I know there is a hidden meaning aka joke
> here but I guess I am getting to old?.. Enlighten me aka Clue me in.. :-)
> Cheers Thom_j.



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> | Ah, the ol' "Breath, turn left" method :)
> |
> | -Larry
> |


> | > After many hours or adjusting & re-adjusting my FF wheel I found that
> the
> | > 32:1 is too sloppy for me {being a GPLer for years with a tight steer
> | lock}
> | > So I run from 20:1 to even all the way down to 12:1 & have no problems
> | > on the Super Speedways.. {putting my $.02 worth in...lol}
> | > Cheers Thom_j.
> <snipped for NG space>

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Thom j

N4 Setups

by Thom j » Fri, 02 Mar 2001 04:34:46

"O' Duh!! Color me idiot!! phew!! You typed "Breath, turn left" like in
"breathe"..lol Sorry I wasnt awake I guess? Yea I love the tight feel of
a 12:1 lock in at Tona & Dega! Damn I'd take 10:1 or lower for the 2
RCs too..lol Thanx for clearing it up tho' Larry. Just goes to show you
how dumb I really am.. eeeeecccckk.. :o(.. hahahaha
Cheers Thom_j.


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| No real hidden meaning :)
|
| Just don't breath on the wheel too hard.  With it set that touchy at Dega
or
| Tona, you might end up driving 5 miles per Lap instead of 2.5 miles :)
|
| -Larry
|


| > LoL "Dog-Leg" aka Larry.. I know there is a hidden meaning aka joke
| > here but I guess I am getting to old?.. Enlighten me aka Clue me in..
:-)
| > Cheers Thom_j.
| >


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| > | Ah, the ol' "Breath, turn left" method :)
| > |
| > | -Larry
| > |


| > | > After many hours or adjusting & re-adjusting my FF wheel I found
that
| > the
| > | > 32:1 is too sloppy for me {being a GPLer for years with a tight
steer
| > | lock}
| > | > So I run from 20:1 to even all the way down to 12:1 & have no
problems
| > | > on the Super Speedways.. {putting my $.02 worth in...lol}
| > | > Cheers Thom_j.
| > <snipped for NG space>
| >
| >
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