rec.autos.simulators

I'm seriously considering purchasing a hyperstimulator.  Question for
current owners, are they really worth the money?  Also what model do you
have?  I'm considering a Historic "Gurney Eagle", with some options
added...

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff Lipack

First off I guess i  should let you know im not completely unbiased coz i am
sponsored by hyper and so some work for them.

I have a lotus Hyperstimulator and i love it.

Im thinking of going for the eagle myself soon. (Love the paintjob.  :)

Sitting in that position really helps the immersion factor.
Ask yourself how many cars have i seen with a desk and a ergonomic chair in
the***pit?  :)

The way i figure, for  the amount of time i am in it, its worth it.

and its a hell of lot less expensive than having a real racing car and
almost as much fun.

Anyway thats the line i used on the misses to get myself one.  :)

Jeffrey Lipack schrieb:

I have a Hyper Stim since about four years now. As a "heavy duty user" I
had to replace the following items in this time:

1. The rope connecting the steering axis with the spring packets once.
2. About 1 year ago all of the pots.
3. Two out of 12 springs from the steering box.

The unit is high quality and very relyable. As a purist who does not
need any gimmicks I bought it as a kit and made the assembling and
painting by myself.
That Hyper Stim is my favorite seat in the house, so its very ergonomic
especially for long races. Maybe you need to drill some holes in the
seat that the sweat can drain during long races :-).
You should buy the wheel type with programable buttons. The sofware
comming along with the HS is excellent, especially the new Hyper Tray
stuff from Les Marton.
The only thing Im missing is a FF-wheel from Hyper but lets hope they
once will come out with that.

Jo Lueg

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:41:21 -0500, Jeffrey Lipack

Jeffrey,

I purchased a Hyper kit last spring and built my own using 3/4" birch
plywood.  It is solid as a rock but it was a lot of effort, probably a
good 50- 60 hours of work to cut out, sand and paint.  The patterns
are excellent and it went together without a hitch.  You'll need a
scoll saw,  and drill (a drill press and router would be nice but I
managed without them).

The US dealer was a pain to deal with but in the end made good. I
love the hyper, wheel response is nice, brake feel is just like a car
and with the custom buttons, you don't need the keyboard.  The only
drawback is the lack of force feedback but I suspect that when they
offer it, it will be done correctly.  It is well engineered and will
stand up to long hours of use. I recommend the wide chassis unless
you are very narrow. I have both the shifter (sequential) and paddles.

I replaced my TSW with it and have never looked back.

Jeff

I ummed and ahhed for 2 months before taking the plunge and have never
regretted it.
It was either that or a Clubman Kart like my mate owned and now we both have
stims and don't go karting anymore(way more expensive)
And also when you actually unpack and see what is there you will realise
that they
are very well priced. The strength of them is awesome too, you can really
attack everything
without fear of it snapping off , especially the brake absolutely 2nd to
none for precision, FEEL and strength.
--Matf1--

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:36:53 -0500, Jeffrey Haas

I wonder if they'd be willing to sell me just the plans for the tub
for, say $100.00.  I'd rather implement my own controls.

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

Well, I've been running a Hyperstimulator for around 2 years now (just got
out of it, as a matter of fact), and I'd be hard pressed to figure out which
controls (steering & pedals) are better.

The unit as a whole works for me. Although I could see where just having the
plans might be nice if you'd want to build something up (cockpit wise). As I
recall, there was couple of web sites that were based around that idea (a
build your own racing***pit type of thing). I can't remember what they are
at the moment.

Take Care,
TonyB
HyperStimulator 3000

I suppose I'm just a cheap bastard. <g>  I do like woodworking and
have the necessary tools, so it seems sensible to construct from
patterns instead of buying premade.  Pride of accomplishment and all
that...

What I want to do for pedals is to actually utilize the "real thing"
and implement a set of Tilton pedals made for a Formula Ford.  That
will give me the exact action (they pivot from the top,*** down)
and if I actually plumb in the brake master cylinder to, perhaps one
brake caliper with a chunk of steel in it's mouth, I could effectively
approximate the progressive feel of a full hydraulic braking system.

For a wheel, I'd probably just cannabalize a Logitech force-feedback
unit to drive a real Formula-style wheel on a steel shaft in
ball-bearings.

All of this is simpler than convincing she-who-must-be-obeyed that
~$1000.00 is a reasonable expenditure for a "computer game".... <g>

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

Good plan Brett. The brake will be the tricky bit. Hydraulics won't help. If
you know anybody that owns a Hyper beg them to have a look in the pedal box and
see how they did it(I'm guessing strain gauge) then report back to the rest of
us so we all know.

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

You might try this http://www.racebasecockpit.com/, also in Australia.
They have plan and hardware (hinges etc) kits for you to use with your
own controls.

Peter

Oh, I was just going to drive a pot with a cable and, possibly, a
bell-crank.  The pseudo-hydraulic brakes was just to give it a
realistic feel.  A piezo strain gauge would be interesting to
implement though.  I'm fairly adept with those embedded
microcontroller chips...

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

Outstanding, Peter!  Thanks for the tip.

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

Hey Brett, here's a few more to check out for ideas if you haven't
already.

http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/

http://www.student.oulu.fi/~heinanen/wheel.html

http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/lw1.htm

http://www.mindspring.com/~srcwheel/

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.