rec.autos.simulators

by **SARTON** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hi ..

I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
no (very little) improvements.

I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
before you can really nail the track.

Thanks.

by **5th Docto** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Well, myself only, have done probably 50 laps a day for weeks on VROC and at
home, and I am still tweaking my setup and driving style, still
learning...I'll never be "done"

>Hi ..

>I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
>no (very little) improvements.

>I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
>quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
>before you can really nail the track.

>Thanks.

by **Jon Dento** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I am not surprised you have had no real improvement after 30 laps. What
sort of times are you getting? Are you able to lap consistently and not
come off the track?? I found it took about 100 laps of Monza in any of the
(fast) cars before I could post good laptimes consistently. However, I then
started working on setup, etc, etc...

In short, I would say it takes longer than 30 laps to nail it!!

I've had the game since November and I've played it as often as possible and
I still have not beaten the AI drivers yet (Has anybody else noticed that
GPL makes it very satisfying to come 3rd?).

Regards,

Jon.

>Hi ..

>I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
>no (very little) improvements.

>I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
>quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
>before you can really nail the track.

>Thanks.

by **Pat Dotso** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
> no (very little) improvements.

> I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
> quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
> before you can really nail the track.

I've done literally thousands of laps in GPL.
In fact, I've probably done over 1000 laps
at some of the individual tracks.

Thirty laps is barely enough to learn which
way the next turn goes. If you are new to
GPL, figure on 100 laps at Watkins Glen just
to figure out what the car is doing. After
a few hundred laps, you should be pretty
consistent there.

Stick to one track when you are starting,
and really learn to drive the car consistently
there. Once you know how to drive the car
well at one track, learning another track
is a lot easier.

--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports
http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

by **Johan Foedere** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Just one question. Did you see how many laps a GP race is?

If you see that just one single race consists of way more than 30
laps... how could you possibly expect to 'nail' GPL after 30 laps?

// Johan

> Hi ..

> I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
> no (very little) improvements.

> I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
> quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
> before you can really nail the track.

> Thanks.

by **Marty U'Re** » Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Frankly, persistance with GPL requires 100s of laps when starting out to
learn the driving dynamics, car setup, as well as track layout. Then 1000s
of laps to be competative with the best racing online (if you have the
talent :-) ).

The beauty of this sim is the depth of the challange, which after months of
regular play offers as much as now as the day I installed it on my
computer.

Marty

> Hi ..

> I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
> no (very little) improvements.

> I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
> quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
> before you can really nail the track.

> Thanks.

by **David Ewin** » Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> I've had the game since November and I've played it as often as possible and
> I still have not beaten the AI drivers yet (Has anybody else noticed that
> GPL makes it very satisfying to come 3rd?).

Absolutely! When I race offline, I use the full field of un***erated
AI (with the addition of Jackie Stewart and Mike Spence), including
global hype, and I am just now finishing in the points. I spent months
as a mid-fielder on most circuits. And just in the last couple of weeks
I have been finally getting competitive. First, I finished 4th at
Mosport in a Ferrari. That was kind of a fluke, however, since Siffert
had stalled right after the 1st gear turn leading to the back straight
causing a massive 10 car pile up. Then, shortly after switching to the
Lotus using Alison's modified Coventry setups, I qualified 5th at
Zandvoort and finished 4th (holding off Graham Hill for the last 10 or
so laps). Man, was that fun! Last night I qualified 4th at Silverstone
(the front row - on one of my worst tracks) behind Clark, Hill and
Gurney. As you said, even these very modest results are really
rewarding!

Dave Ewing

by **Joel Willstei** » Fri, 12 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> Hi ..

> I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
> no (very little) improvements.

> I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
> quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
> before you can really nail the track.

> Thanks.

It depends on the track and the driver. I tend to learn tracks
slowly. At least slower than others whom I regularly race with. The Glen
and Monza took a several days to really nail down. While I was fairly
consistent after a few hours of practice. Multiply your 30 by 10. Right
now I'm trying to become consistent enough to race at Rouen online.
After 2 days,I'm still all over the place when I try to pick up the
pace.

Joel Willstein

by **Byron Forbe** » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Yes, well said Pat. And I'd say the best way to learn GPL is to start
at the Ring. It's a whole sim in itself and every lap is an adventure
even after you get to know it fairly well. By the time you break the
8.30 or even 8.20 marks at the Ring, your ready to learn any track! :)

> > I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
> > no (very little) improvements.

> > I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
> > quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
> > before you can really nail the track.

> I've done literally thousands of laps in GPL.
> In fact, I've probably done over 1000 laps
> at some of the individual tracks.

> Thirty laps is barely enough to learn which
> way the next turn goes. If you are new to
> GPL, figure on 100 laps at Watkins Glen just
> to figure out what the car is doing. After
> a few hundred laps, you should be pretty
> consistent there.

> Stick to one track when you are starting,
> and really learn to drive the car consistently
> there. Once you know how to drive the car
> well at one track, learning another track
> is a lot easier.

> --
> Pat Dotson
> IMPACT Motorsports
> http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

by **JSchu** » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

HOURS??? You should calculate in weeks ;-)

To quote Alison: "I only start feeling comfortable after a few hundred
laps on a certain track" (or something similar)

Jens

On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 13:57:53 +0800, SARTONO

>Hi ..

>I've been practicing a particular track (watkins) for over 30 laps with
>no (very little) improvements.

>I'm quite a persistent sim racer (i've raced in F1rs/Viper/nascar/etc.
>quiet extensively) and was wondering how many laps you gpl pros spend
>before you can really nail the track.

>Thanks.

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by **Mike Buckle** » Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:00:00

That is SO true!

When I started on GPL I put many hours on Silverstone and then moved to
Monza - I tried the Glen but initially found it too difficult. Then I
moved to Spa and then to the Glen where I soon got into the 1:06's. From
there I went to Zandvoort - oh god - what a mistake - leave it alone -
what a frustrating track! On the other hand Rouen, which I left
virtually to last to even go round once is a SUPERB track, it took me a
while to find a setup I liked, having tried a few, Tadej's, AT's and a
few others I finally got one that suited me and finally got into the
2:00's - with some more practise I know i can knock a lot more time off
that, the problem is just as I start getting into training mode I look
at the clock and think - hmmmm theres probably some online racing going
on now and that blows practise for the night!
I reckon I've done about 50 laps at Rouen to get to the 2:00 mark, many
more at Monza to get a low 1:29 (1:28 proving elusive!) and about 300 at
the Glen to be able to do consistent low 1:29's. Too many at Silverstone
to count!

--
Mike Buckley
Cotswold Pig Development Co Ltd
Tel: 44 (0)1472 371591 Fax: 44 (0)1472 371208

WWW: www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk

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