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F! - budget cap and new points system

Byron Forbe

F! - budget cap and new points system

by Byron Forbe » Thu, 07 May 2009 16:00:48

    So it looks as though Bernie's new points system (1 point for the
winner, zero for the rest) will be implemented next year. This is the way it
was years ago and imo a typical case of de-evolution.

    Anyway, so we have this factor in combination with the budget cap -
here's an interesting scenario.

    With drivers no doubt going gang busters there will no doubt be a rise
in accidents and damage to equipment. So you get to the last few races of
the season, in contention, and you put your car into the wall in practice
say. Sorry, we're out of money - no more spare parts. See you all next
year.....................................................................

    This should be an interesting juggling act for the teams - spare parts
vs. performance.

Remco Moe

F! - budget cap and new points system

by Remco Moe » Thu, 07 May 2009 19:44:08

On Wed, 6 May 2009 17:00:48 +1000, "Byron Forbes"


>    So it looks as though Bernie's new points system (1 point for the
>winner, zero for the rest) will be implemented next year. This is the way it
>was years ago and imo a typical case of de-evolution.

>    Anyway, so we have this factor in combination with the budget cap -
>here's an interesting scenario.

>    With drivers no doubt going gang busters there will no doubt be a rise
>in accidents and damage to equipment. So you get to the last few races of
>the season, in contention, and you put your car into the wall in practice
>say. Sorry, we're out of money - no more spare parts. See you all next
>year.....................................................................

>    This should be an interesting juggling act for the teams - spare parts
>vs. performance.

I'm not so sure that creating spare parts will have such an huge
influence on the budget. After all, personel is already paid, research
is done, and the material shouldn't cost that much.

However, there might be another problem with the budget cap. The
reason for a budget cap is to allow more teams on the grid. And that's
because the deal with the TV networks guarantees a full grid. So far,
so good. But when the FIA proposes rule changes to make F1 more
atractive for a larger audience, it might divide the budget capped and
none-budget capped teams.

A larger audience isn't that much important for the budget capped
teams, since they can't use the increased income anyway , where the
none capped teams can. It might increase the chance that the car
manufacturers start their own series.

Cheers!

Remco

Lunchbo

F! - budget cap and new points system

by Lunchbo » Fri, 08 May 2009 00:14:39


Hmm, I see a new business opportunity here. I could sell my spare parts to
people that need them for massive profits.

Pete

F! - budget cap and new points system

by Pete » Fri, 08 May 2009 06:46:19


says...

What's the point in that.  One draw of motor racing in general is
watching cars s***for the minor places.  If there is no point to the
s***then there will be none.

--
Pete Ives
Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

Byron Forbe

F! - budget cap and new points system

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 08 May 2009 23:22:42



> says...
>>     So it looks as though Bernie's new points system (1 point for the
>> winner, zero for the rest) will be implemented next year. This is the way
>> it
>> was years ago and imo a typical case of de-evolution.

> What's the point in that.  One draw of motor racing in general is
> watching cars s***for the minor places.  If there is no point to the
> s***then there will be none.

> --
> Pete Ives
> Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

    Tell that to Bernie and Max!

    I just read that Max Mosley's son was found dead as the result of a drug
overdose - why am I not surprised. Imagine having an old man who got caught
on film getting his arse caned by ***s! Anyway, enough on that.

    It seems of late that every time I turn around and look at what's going
on and being proposed by the F1 hierarchy that I am left dumb founded - they
have lost the plot completely in my opinion.

Ed Medli

F! - budget cap and new points system

by Ed Medli » Wed, 13 May 2009 03:24:34





>> says...
>>>     So it looks as though Bernie's new points system (1 point for the
>>> winner, zero for the rest) will be implemented next year. This is the
>>> way it
>>> was years ago and imo a typical case of de-evolution.

>> What's the point in that.  One draw of motor racing in general is
>> watching cars s***for the minor places.  If there is no point to the
>> s***then there will be none.

>> --
>> Pete Ives
>> Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

>    Tell that to Bernie and Max!

>    I just read that Max Mosley's son was found dead as the result of a
> drug overdose - why am I not surprised. Imagine having an old man who got
> caught on film getting his arse caned by ***s! Anyway, enough on that.

>    It seems of late that every time I turn around and look at what's going
> on and being proposed by the F1 hierarchy that I am left dumb founded -
> they have lost the plot completely in my opinion.

If it is any consolation, I heard on the F1 broadcast that the points for a
win only system is not going to happen. I also heard that two new teams are
coming to F1 in 1010, both from the USA. My speculation is Cosworth will
supply engines.

Ed


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