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Sooooooooooo much concentration is needed when driving this game. Oh and
outside view is NOT the way to go fast btw.

I did a few quick runs setting up the newly borrowed wheel and pedal
axises to my liking in the controller area. All seems great.

Then I tried some more serious runs like I would with my gamepad and
even with the wheel found myself all over the road and could barely get
close to my 4:09 best time.

BUT .......then I switched to windshield view. Drove for 1 min or so to
get use to the view then tried another serious run.

Blam! Instant 3:58 on first run and I wasn't even smooth or anywhere
near graceful!!!!

I think there are different physics and handling with outside view; or
at least there are perceived handling differences that really make it
hard to drive FAST in outside view. There simply seems to more stability
and more traction in the inside car type views. Call me crazy but try it
for yourself.

Do a serious run in both views and see. Am I smoking weed on this one or
do you others notice this too?

Is anyone able to race in outside view and be fast?

I assume you're on about the Harwood stage, right? My PB so far is a
4:04, even with inside view and a decent controller (tsw2). I find it
terribly hard to go fast and *not* crash in RBR, but it's very
rewarding.

My son favours the ouside view, but I'd drop the "fast" from that
sentence. ;-)

Cheers,

uwe

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I tried outside view, just to see what magazine reviewers were grumbling
about with respect to the graphics.  Couldn't get on with it at all- I need
the interior view to get an idea of how the car is working in order to
drive it properly.

I don't /think/ it's different, just that there's less useful visual input
from the kite view.

cheers
John

Peter

Having said that a wheel, especially force feedback wheel, is 10x the
fun that my gamepad was. This game really comes alive with a nice FF wheel.

Just be careful which wheel you get cause as of now, RBR needs a patch
on many issues and controller compatibility is one of them.

The physics aren't different. The problem with the outside view is that
your senses can't pick up on the subtle changes in attitude that the car
undergoes during cornering. By the time you notice that you have over-
rotated, it's too late to correct. With the proper (inside) view, you
can see every little nuance of what the car is doing which is essential
when you are driving on the ragged edge. Proper rally cornering demands
a perfect balance of steering and throttle. Too much throttle when you
are sliding around a turn and there won't be enough traction on the rear
wheels and the backend will come around. Too little and you will
oversteer to the inside of the corner. When entering a corner, you have
to flick the steering at just the right time to "catch" the car before
it careens out of control and with the outside view, you simply can't
react fast enough.

RBR models all of this so perfectly -- that's one reason it is such an
amazing game.

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Agreed, I think you described the answer well here.

Mitch

different. The problem with the outside view is that