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Controller with mind of its own...

Rick

Controller with mind of its own...

by Rick » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 00:04:09

I use a Destiny analogue wheel and pedals (don't laugh) with my PC, and I
get no end of trouble with it. When I calibrate it, all seems well, but as
soon as I try any racing games the controls are permanently flickering
around, jabbing brakes and accelerator, twitching the wheel etc.

I use Windows ME, and have 900mhz Duron with 384mb ram and a GeForce 4200Ti
card and 30.82 detonator drivers. The same thing happens if I use an
analogue joystick so it doesn't seem solely down to my hardware.

I've tried adjusting the sensitivity in the games but this makes no
difference. Sometimes the game sets itself up so that the steering is
reversed. The games I try this with are GP3, GPL and TOCA2.

Any menus selected in game by use of the wheel are unselectable as the
controller seems to have a mind of its own.

Is there any settings or patches I should be looking at? The games are all
patched up to date as far as I know. The wheel is fine on other computers -
is there any file in the controller menu that could have got corrupted?

frederickso

Controller with mind of its own...

by frederickso » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 01:52:20

maybe there's something wrong with wherever you are plugging it in... are
they both in the gameport? if so where is the gameport.


Rick

Controller with mind of its own...

by Rick » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:02:39

The gameport is on the soundcard - an AC97 card. Could it be driver problem
for the card do you reckon? The computer is only 12 months old.

Rick


GTX_SlotCa

Controller with mind of its own...

by GTX_SlotCa » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:17:58

Rick, is there any way you can try the wheel on another computer? Also, how
old is the wheel and has it always had problems? We should try to determine
if the problem is dirty pots in the wheel or if it's a gameport problem.

--
Slot

Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com


Rick

Controller with mind of its own...

by Rick » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 06:43:32

The wheel is 3 years old - I dismantled it this evening and used a bit of
WD40 in the components (now you'll tell me that was the worst thing I could
have done!) - the pot on the end of the steering stem seems to be a sealed
unit. I guess it will work out cheaper buying a new wheel unless a clean of
the interior is a feasible task?

Rick


> Rick, is there any way you can try the wheel on another computer? Also,
how
> old is the wheel and has it always had problems? We should try to
determine
> if the problem is dirty pots in the wheel or if it's a gameport problem.

> --
> Slot

> Tweaks & Reviews
> www.slottweak.com



> > I use a Destiny analogue wheel and pedals (don't laugh) with my PC, and
I
> > get no end of trouble with it. When I calibrate it, all seems well, but
as
> > soon as I try any racing games the controls are permanently flickering
> > around, jabbing brakes and accelerator, twitching the wheel etc.

> > I use Windows ME, and have 900mhz Duron with 384mb ram and a GeForce
> 4200Ti
> > card and 30.82 detonator drivers. The same thing happens if I use an
> > analogue joystick so it doesn't seem solely down to my hardware.

> > I've tried adjusting the sensitivity in the games but this makes no
> > difference. Sometimes the game sets itself up so that the steering is
> > reversed. The games I try this with are GP3, GPL and TOCA2.

> > Any menus selected in game by use of the wheel are unselectable as the
> > controller seems to have a mind of its own.

> > Is there any settings or patches I should be looking at? The games are
all
> > patched up to date as far as I know. The wheel is fine on other
> computers -
> > is there any file in the controller menu that could have got corrupted?

Kerry and Angie Gran

Controller with mind of its own...

by Kerry and Angie Gran » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:08:54

Yep, I used to use WD-40, but most people advise against it. The recommend
tuner cleaner. Get a TSW2!

Kerry


> The wheel is 3 years old - I dismantled it this evening and used a bit of
> WD40 in the components (now you'll tell me that was the worst thing I
could
> have done!) - the pot on the end of the steering stem seems to be a sealed
> unit. I guess it will work out cheaper buying a new wheel unless a clean
of
> the interior is a feasible task?

> Rick



> > Rick, is there any way you can try the wheel on another computer? Also,
> how
> > old is the wheel and has it always had problems? We should try to
> determine
> > if the problem is dirty pots in the wheel or if it's a gameport problem.

> > --
> > Slot

> > Tweaks & Reviews
> > www.slottweak.com



> > > I use a Destiny analogue wheel and pedals (don't laugh) with my PC,
and
> I
> > > get no end of trouble with it. When I calibrate it, all seems well,
but
> as
> > > soon as I try any racing games the controls are permanently flickering
> > > around, jabbing brakes and accelerator, twitching the wheel etc.

> > > I use Windows ME, and have 900mhz Duron with 384mb ram and a GeForce
> > 4200Ti
> > > card and 30.82 detonator drivers. The same thing happens if I use an
> > > analogue joystick so it doesn't seem solely down to my hardware.

> > > I've tried adjusting the sensitivity in the games but this makes no
> > > difference. Sometimes the game sets itself up so that the steering is
> > > reversed. The games I try this with are GP3, GPL and TOCA2.

> > > Any menus selected in game by use of the wheel are unselectable as the
> > > controller seems to have a mind of its own.

> > > Is there any settings or patches I should be looking at? The games are
> all
> > > patched up to date as far as I know. The wheel is fine on other
> > computers -
> > > is there any file in the controller menu that could have got
corrupted?

Mitch_

Controller with mind of its own...

by Mitch_ » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:31:16

A better choice than WD-40 is Graphite.  No residue buildup.


> The wheel is 3 years old - I dismantled it this evening and used a bit of
> WD40 in the components (now you'll tell me that was the worst thing I
could
> have done!) - the pot on the end of the steering stem seems to be a sealed
> unit. I guess it will work out cheaper buying a new wheel unless a clean
of
> the interior is a feasible task?

> Rick



> > Rick, is there any way you can try the wheel on another computer? Also,
> how
> > old is the wheel and has it always had problems? We should try to
> determine
> > if the problem is dirty pots in the wheel or if it's a gameport problem.

> > --
> > Slot

> > Tweaks & Reviews
> > www.slottweak.com



> > > I use a Destiny analogue wheel and pedals (don't laugh) with my PC,
and
> I
> > > get no end of trouble with it. When I calibrate it, all seems well,
but
> as
> > > soon as I try any racing games the controls are permanently flickering
> > > around, jabbing brakes and accelerator, twitching the wheel etc.

> > > I use Windows ME, and have 900mhz Duron with 384mb ram and a GeForce
> > 4200Ti
> > > card and 30.82 detonator drivers. The same thing happens if I use an
> > > analogue joystick so it doesn't seem solely down to my hardware.

> > > I've tried adjusting the sensitivity in the games but this makes no
> > > difference. Sometimes the game sets itself up so that the steering is
> > > reversed. The games I try this with are GP3, GPL and TOCA2.

> > > Any menus selected in game by use of the wheel are unselectable as the
> > > controller seems to have a mind of its own.

> > > Is there any settings or patches I should be looking at? The games are
> all
> > > patched up to date as far as I know. The wheel is fine on other
> > computers -
> > > is there any file in the controller menu that could have got
corrupted?

Mitch_

Controller with mind of its own...

by Mitch_ » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:34:54

I may have misunderstood.  Did you use WD-40 *inside* the potentiometer?  Or
on the movable parts/pivots etc?  If I was mistaken then electronics cleaner
can be found at any radio shack to clean the pots.


> A better choice than WD-40 is Graphite.  No residue buildup.



> > The wheel is 3 years old - I dismantled it this evening and used a bit
of
> > WD40 in the components (now you'll tell me that was the worst thing I
> could
> > have done!) - the pot on the end of the steering stem seems to be a
sealed
> > unit. I guess it will work out cheaper buying a new wheel unless a clean
> of
> > the interior is a feasible task?

> > Rick



> > > Rick, is there any way you can try the wheel on another computer?
Also,
> > how
> > > old is the wheel and has it always had problems? We should try to
> > determine
> > > if the problem is dirty pots in the wheel or if it's a gameport
problem.

> > > --
> > > Slot

> > > Tweaks & Reviews
> > > www.slottweak.com



> > > > I use a Destiny analogue wheel and pedals (don't laugh) with my PC,
> and
> > I
> > > > get no end of trouble with it. When I calibrate it, all seems well,
> but
> > as
> > > > soon as I try any racing games the controls are permanently
flickering
> > > > around, jabbing brakes and accelerator, twitching the wheel etc.

> > > > I use Windows ME, and have 900mhz Duron with 384mb ram and a GeForce
> > > 4200Ti
> > > > card and 30.82 detonator drivers. The same thing happens if I use an
> > > > analogue joystick so it doesn't seem solely down to my hardware.

> > > > I've tried adjusting the sensitivity in the games but this makes no
> > > > difference. Sometimes the game sets itself up so that the steering
is
> > > > reversed. The games I try this with are GP3, GPL and TOCA2.

> > > > Any menus selected in game by use of the wheel are unselectable as
the
> > > > controller seems to have a mind of its own.

> > > > Is there any settings or patches I should be looking at? The games
are
> > all
> > > > patched up to date as far as I know. The wheel is fine on other
> > > computers -
> > > > is there any file in the controller menu that could have got
> corrupted?

GTX_SlotCa

Controller with mind of its own...

by GTX_SlotCa » Sat, 07 Sep 2002 09:31:04

Well, I wouldn't use wd40 all the time, but that's fine right now for our
troubleshooting purposes. Now, did the wheel always behave like this on your
computer? Spray the sealed pot anyway, some will get in. Is it better or
worse after spraying it?

--
Slot

Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com


> The wheel is 3 years old - I dismantled it this evening and used a bit of
> WD40 in the components (now you'll tell me that was the worst thing I
could
> have done!) - the pot on the end of the steering stem seems to be a sealed
> unit. I guess it will work out cheaper buying a new wheel unless a clean
of
> the interior is a feasible task?

> Rick



> > Rick, is there any way you can try the wheel on another computer? Also,
> how
> > old is the wheel and has it always had problems? We should try to
> determine
> > if the problem is dirty pots in the wheel or if it's a gameport problem.

> > --
> > Slot

> > Tweaks & Reviews
> > www.slottweak.com



> > > I use a Destiny analogue wheel and pedals (don't laugh) with my PC,
and
> I
> > > get no end of trouble with it. When I calibrate it, all seems well,
but
> as
> > > soon as I try any racing games the controls are permanently flickering
> > > around, jabbing brakes and accelerator, twitching the wheel etc.

> > > I use Windows ME, and have 900mhz Duron with 384mb ram and a GeForce
> > 4200Ti
> > > card and 30.82 detonator drivers. The same thing happens if I use an
> > > analogue joystick so it doesn't seem solely down to my hardware.

> > > I've tried adjusting the sensitivity in the games but this makes no
> > > difference. Sometimes the game sets itself up so that the steering is
> > > reversed. The games I try this with are GP3, GPL and TOCA2.

> > > Any menus selected in game by use of the wheel are unselectable as the
> > > controller seems to have a mind of its own.

> > > Is there any settings or patches I should be looking at? The games are
> all
> > > patched up to date as far as I know. The wheel is fine on other
> > computers -
> > > is there any file in the controller menu that could have got
corrupted?

J

Controller with mind of its own...

by J » Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:59:57

Yeah,
the one with FF <g>

Jens Schumi



---------------------------------------------
LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/

GPLRank: -14.82
Monsters of GPL: sub 95

J

Controller with mind of its own...

by J » Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:59:57

Second that,
WD (Water Displacement) is not a cleaner, neither a lubricant. But perfect for
trouble-shooting. Forget your pot after this procedure though.

JensSchumi


>Well, I wouldn't use wd40 all the time, but that's fine right now for our
>troubleshooting purposes. Now, did the wheel always behave like this on your
>computer? Spray the sealed pot anyway, some will get in. Is it better or
>worse after spraying it?

---------------------------------------------
LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/

GPLRank: -14.82
Monsters of GPL: sub 95


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