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Kyle Steve

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by Kyle Steve » Tue, 23 Jul 1996 04:00:00

On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:23:12 -0500, "Thomas E. Retkowski"


>Tony Johns let me know he current has an effort in the works to make the
>new newsgroup a reality.  This has a jump on this we should do all we
>can to support him.

>It has come to my attention that some "less informed" people think I am
>trying to steal glory for getting this area created.  Let me state this
>publicly since I already told Tony this, I am not interested in glory,
>braging rights, etc...all I am concerned with is getting the newsgroup
>created.

>Let this be a formal notice, I put my full support behing Tony Johns, Ed
>Martin and anyone else trying to make this a reality, and if my
>submission proposal helped great!  If this does become a reality Tony
>deserves the credit since he started the ball rolling before me.  The
>only reason I started and submitted a proposal was it did not appear
>anyone had done so previously.  If I missed that posting I apologize.

I guess I didn't realize this entire "discussion" was about who did
what and who gets credit; it seems to overshadow the real reason.  If
it all comes down to who suggested it first, then I think people are
missing the point and should think twice about entering into a
meaningful discussion. :(  But you needed to clarify your position and
that's understandable based on some of the heat around here.

I hope that Tony or the other advocates only respond to the "more
informed" (to turn your words around), and don't get dragged down into
the mud of bragging rights.  That defeats the purpose.  Please,
people, if the thread is going to go on, let it be worthwhile.  

People seem so quick to flame or take comments out of context...it
seems more posts are apologies (like yours), and that's a shame,
because it prevents you from wanting to join in on future debates one
way or the other.  But thank you for stepping up to the plate and
clairfying your position, whatever it is and will be.  That's more
than most do around these parts.

Kyle

Ed Mart

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by Ed Mart » Tue, 23 Jul 1996 04:00:00


GREAT!  Let's all work together on this & continue the great
discussions over the merits (pro & con).

If nothing else, the fact the Thomas & Tony did this at the same time
shows 2 things:  1) multiple people think it's a good enough idea to
take action on it; and 2) there so much "noise" up here that these 2
groups didn't even see each other postings

Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Shane Metzge

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by Shane Metzge » Tue, 23 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Only Nascar? I think the other sims should be diversified as the leftys
are.  What makes Nascar so special?
Most of the Nascar discussion is flames anyway ;)

Ron R.

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by Ron R. » Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Yes, this is good, unfortunetly ( I know spelling sucks) Tony just
posted last night or early this am washing his hands of it too.
So now what do we do since Tony's givin up on it and now Thomas is
dropping his effort to support the now non existent effort of Tony?
Or has Tony reconsidered. BTW has anyone else had a problem
decoding/reading the rfd by Thomas in news.groups? All I can get is
boxes and blanks.
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JEB

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by JEB » Fri, 26 Jul 1996 04:00:00



> shooting through ***space:

> >Yes, this is good, unfortunetly ( I know spelling sucks) Tony just
> >posted last night or early this am washing his hands of it too.
> >So now what do we do since Tony's givin up on it and now Thomas is
> >dropping his effort to support the now non existent effort of Tony?
> >Or has Tony reconsidered. BTW has anyone else had a problem
> >decoding/reading the rfd by Thomas in news.groups? All I can get is
> >boxes and blanks.
> >Ron R II

> Ron --

> I'm still behind the official RFD.  However, I am completely against
> the "CFD" posted in news.groups, first because it does not follow
> USENET guidelines for RFD submission, and second because I am not in
> favor of exclusively nominating a NASCAR-only newsgroup without
> offering equal consideration to the other racing divisions.
> --
> Tony Johns (Hawaii: IWCCCARS)
> IWCCCARS Project Coordinator

Pardon my ignorance, but, why can't we just vote and get the separate
groups established. I believe that most will support the separation.
Is this a violation of the procedure? Do we have to wade through these
discussion notes for a period of time to qualify. I'm ready, suspect
most are as well...to VOTE.
I vote split. 3 groups.
rec.autos.simulators.nascar
rec.autos.simulators.indycar
rec.autos.simulators.f1

Thanks

JEB in Vegas

Tony Joh

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by Tony Joh » Fri, 26 Jul 1996 04:00:00


shooting through ***space:

Ron --

I'm still behind the official RFD.  However, I am completely against
the "CFD" posted in news.groups, first because it does not follow
USENET guidelines for RFD submission, and second because I am not in
favor of exclusively nominating a NASCAR-only newsgroup without
offering equal consideration to the other racing divisions.
--
Tony Johns (Hawaii: IWCCCARS)
IWCCCARS Project Coordinator


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