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completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

SS

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by SS » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:52:03

Sorry to pester ras, but my pleas for help have gone unanswered
elsewhere....

I have IE 6.0.2 installed under Windows 98SE and suddenly I am unable to
right click on links and select "open in new window".  Well, I can select
it...but it doesn't work.  A new window opens, but no content appears.  The
same problem manifests itself when a link is designed to automatically open
in a new
browser window (the window opens, but just hangs with no content and no
error message) and with pop-up ads, which also fail to load any content. I
have tried disabling my software firewall; I confirmed that no unknown
programs were running in the background; I went through all the the IE
security and privacy settings to confirm that none of the settings seemed
out of line; and in the end I downloaded and re-installed the browser.  All
to no avail.

Any idea what might be causing this and how I can fix it?

Thanks,
itazura

P.S. After some googling, I tried some possible "fixes" listed here
http://www.racesimcentral.net/, but the problem persists.

SS

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by SS » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:10:45

OK, request retracted :-)

The one thing I hadn't tried yet worked when I did try it.  Namely, I
extracted the file oleaut32.dll from the Win98 installation disk and dumped
it in the System folder and rebooted.  This tip was the very last suggested
step on the link I provided in my original post and it did the trick.  Sorry
for the newsgroup clutter.

itazura


dklassen8

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by dklassen8 » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 04:11:26

Glad to hear you got it working.

I was wondering if you've ever tried FireBird from the people who put
out Mozilla. I've been using it for quite a while now and am very happy
with it. Over all, it's much quicker and claims to be more secure as
well. As for opening links in new windows, Mozilla uses a slick tabbed
system.

Sorry if this is sounding like an ad for FireBird :) If anyone is
interested be sure to check out http://mozilla.org/products/firebird

dklassen86


> OK, request retracted :-)

> The one thing I hadn't tried yet worked when I did try it.  Namely, I
> extracted the file oleaut32.dll from the Win98 installation disk and dumped
> it in the System folder and rebooted.  This tip was the very last suggested
> step on the link I provided in my original post and it did the trick.  Sorry
> for the newsgroup clutter.

> itazura



>>Sorry to pester ras, but my pleas for help have gone unanswered
>>elsewhere....

>>I have IE 6.0.2 installed under Windows 98SE and suddenly I am unable to
>>right click on links and select "open in new window".  Well, I can select
>>it...but it doesn't work.  A new window opens, but no content appears.

> The

>>same problem manifests itself when a link is designed to automatically

> open

>>in a new
>>browser window (the window opens, but just hangs with no content and no
>>error message) and with pop-up ads, which also fail to load any content. I
>>have tried disabling my software firewall; I confirmed that no unknown
>>programs were running in the background; I went through all the the IE
>>security and privacy settings to confirm that none of the settings seemed
>>out of line; and in the end I downloaded and re-installed the browser.

> All

>>to no avail.

>>Any idea what might be causing this and how I can fix it?

>>Thanks,
>>itazura

>>P.S. After some googling, I tried some possible "fixes" listed here
>>http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/nolinks.htm , but the problem persists.

Dave Henri

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Dave Henri » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 05:19:16


   So the old oleaut32.dll missing file bug got ya eh?
Sure "I" was gonna suggest that .   .   .. hehehe not!

   I would suggest, especially with a win98 install, that
about once a year you save and backup all your
important stuff and then fdisk your boot drive and
start windows with a clean fresh install.  Does wonders
for unexplained lockups and odd behaivors  that
windows might throw at you.

dave henrie

Haqsa

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Haqsa » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:36:32

I second that.  I just switched to Firebird myself, and for the most part I
like it much better than IE.  Only thing I don't like is that organizing
bookmarks into folders is much more awkward than it is in IE.  Other than
that Firebird is superior.  Tabbed browsing is great, and the built in popup
blocker works much better than the standalone one that I was using.


McWho

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by McWho » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:53:15


> I second that.  I just switched to Firebird myself, and for the most part
I
> like it much better than IE.  Only thing I don't like is that organizing
> bookmarks into folders is much more awkward than it is in IE.  Other than
> that Firebird is superior.  Tabbed browsing is great, and the built in
popup
> blocker works much better than the standalone one that I was using.



> > Glad to hear you got it working.

> > I was wondering if you've ever tried FireBird from the people who put
> > out Mozilla. I've been using it for quite a while now and am very happy
> > with it. Over all, it's much quicker and claims to be more secure as
> > well. As for opening links in new windows, Mozilla uses a slick tabbed
> > system.

> > Sorry if this is sounding like an ad for FireBird :) If anyone is
> > interested be sure to check out http://mozilla.org/products/firebird

> > dklassen86

Let me start out by saying that I am a creature of habit, I am used to IE, I
have tried other browsers and just don't like them(for various reasons).
Now, for the point that bothers me.  What is different from having one
browser window with tabs vs. having multiple browser windows selectable from
the task bar?   Just seems to me to be the same thing, easily selectable and
mousing over the various browswer windows in the task bar gives me the full
name and/or address.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Sean

McCrac

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by McCrac » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 07:07:39



Yea, I don't like the way it handles bookmarks either but I am using
it as my main web browser in Win98SE and ME, in XP I am using Opera.

Haqsa

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Haqsa » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 09:17:44

I had the same question at first, i.e. what's the point of the tabs?  Then I
tried it.  I found I very quickly got to like it better.  Probably best for
people who like to have the browser full screen, not very useful if you
don't.  Is it really any easier?  Possibly not, but in use it just feels
better.  A couple things that are different - I have it set to open windows
in the background which means if I ctrl-click on a link it will open on a
separate tab in the background without taking me away from the current
window.  This allows me to open a bunch of different links in a search
engine all at once and then look at them after I am done opening them all.
In IE if you open a page in a separate window it takes you to the new page
immediately even if you didn't want to switch contexts yet.  Also you can
open an entire group of links at once, with a separate tab for each.  Kind
of handy if you have a number of websites you like to review regularly.
Firebird seems to open pages faster then IE too.  Minor stuff maybe, but
nice.  Biggest thing for me is the integrated popup blocker and the fact
that you can also block banner ads.  It's just more trouble free than using
a separate popup blocker with IE.


The Carvalho Famil

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by The Carvalho Famil » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 13:15:08

I use Mozilla with WinME and OS X. I use the tabs to keep my browsing
organized: one window per "theme" with multiple tabs in each window. I
can get way off track and get back quickly while having lots of pages
accessible. Works for me.
Jim

>I had the same question at first, i.e. what's the point of the tabs?  Then I
>tried it.  I found I very quickly got to like it better.  Probably best for
>people who like to have the browser full screen, not very useful if you
>don't.  Is it really any easier?  Possibly not, but in use it just feels
>better.  A couple things that are different - I have it set to open windows
>in the background which means if I ctrl-click on a link it will open on a
>separate tab in the background without taking me away from the current
>window.  This allows me to open a bunch of different links in a search
>engine all at once and then look at them after I am done opening them all.
>In IE if you open a page in a separate window it takes you to the new page
>immediately even if you didn't want to switch contexts yet.  Also you can
>open an entire group of links at once, with a separate tab for each.  Kind
>of handy if you have a number of websites you like to review regularly.
>Firebird seems to open pages faster then IE too.  Minor stuff maybe, but
>nice.  Biggest thing for me is the integrated popup blocker and the fact
>that you can also block banner ads.  It's just more trouble free than using
>a separate popup blocker with IE.



>>Let me start out by saying that I am a creature of habit, I am used to IE,

>I

>>have tried other browsers and just don't like them(for various reasons).
>>Now, for the point that bothers me.  What is different from having one
>>browser window with tabs vs. having multiple browser windows selectable

>from

>>the task bar?   Just seems to me to be the same thing, easily selectable

>and

>>mousing over the various browswer windows in the task bar gives me the

>full

>>name and/or address.

>>Just my $0.02 worth.

>>Sean

Larr

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Larr » Wed, 04 Feb 2004 06:30:16

Check your HOSTS file to see if it's been hi-jacked.  This is a very common
issue these days.

Whenever I have a client with any sort of IE weirdness I immediately do the
following:

1.  Install, update and run SpyBot 1.2.
2.  Install, update and run Ad-Aware 6.
3.  Install, update and run CWShredder.

There is a class of exploits out there called "CoolWebSearch" that wreaks
havoc with IE and the HOSTS file.  You can only find them with the above
programs, and CWShredder is the only one known to find and remove all known
versions of this Bovine-Residue.

Even if it's not your issue, I assure you that you're going to be amazed at
what these programs find.

-Larry


Larr

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Larr » Wed, 04 Feb 2004 06:31:04

I still recommend you run the applications I listed.  There may be malware
installed that was the root of your issue.  This stuff is obnoxious as hell.

-Larry


> OK, request retracted :-)

> The one thing I hadn't tried yet worked when I did try it.  Namely, I
> extracted the file oleaut32.dll from the Win98 installation disk and
dumped
> it in the System folder and rebooted.  This tip was the very last
suggested
> step on the link I provided in my original post and it did the trick.
Sorry
> for the newsgroup clutter.

> itazura



> > Sorry to pester ras, but my pleas for help have gone unanswered
> > elsewhere....

> > I have IE 6.0.2 installed under Windows 98SE and suddenly I am unable to
> > right click on links and select "open in new window".  Well, I can
select
> > it...but it doesn't work.  A new window opens, but no content appears.
> The
> > same problem manifests itself when a link is designed to automatically
> open
> > in a new
> > browser window (the window opens, but just hangs with no content and no
> > error message) and with pop-up ads, which also fail to load any content.
I
> > have tried disabling my software firewall; I confirmed that no unknown
> > programs were running in the background; I went through all the the IE
> > security and privacy settings to confirm that none of the settings
seemed
> > out of line; and in the end I downloaded and re-installed the browser.
> All
> > to no avail.

> > Any idea what might be causing this and how I can fix it?

> > Thanks,
> > itazura

> > P.S. After some googling, I tried some possible "fixes" listed here
> > http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/nolinks.htm , but the problem persists.

Larr

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Larr » Wed, 04 Feb 2004 06:34:01

Sean,

Well, for one, no one mentioned GROUPED Bookmarks, a value-added feature of
tabbed browsers.

What you do is open up, say, your normally daily 10 web pages under Tabs.
Then you create ONE bookmark that encapsilates all of those tabs.

From that point on when you open that one bookmark, all 10 tabs open and
load all the web pages automatically.  I call them MacroWeb's :)

Cool, huh :)

-Larry




> > I second that.  I just switched to Firebird myself, and for the most
part
> I
> > like it much better than IE.  Only thing I don't like is that organizing
> > bookmarks into folders is much more awkward than it is in IE.  Other
than
> > that Firebird is superior.  Tabbed browsing is great, and the built in
> popup
> > blocker works much better than the standalone one that I was using.



> > > Glad to hear you got it working.

> > > I was wondering if you've ever tried FireBird from the people who put
> > > out Mozilla. I've been using it for quite a while now and am very
happy
> > > with it. Over all, it's much quicker and claims to be more secure as
> > > well. As for opening links in new windows, Mozilla uses a slick tabbed
> > > system.

> > > Sorry if this is sounding like an ad for FireBird :) If anyone is
> > > interested be sure to check out http://mozilla.org/products/firebird

> > > dklassen86

> Let me start out by saying that I am a creature of habit, I am used to IE,
I
> have tried other browsers and just don't like them(for various reasons).
> Now, for the point that bothers me.  What is different from having one
> browser window with tabs vs. having multiple browser windows selectable
from
> the task bar?   Just seems to me to be the same thing, easily selectable
and
> mousing over the various browswer windows in the task bar gives me the
full
> name and/or address.

> Just my $0.02 worth.

> Sean

McWho

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by McWho » Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:56:37

----- Original Message -----

Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

> Check your HOSTS file to see if it's been hi-jacked.  This is a very
common
> issue these days.

> Whenever I have a client with any sort of IE weirdness I immediately do
the
> following:

> 1.  Install, update and run SpyBot 1.2.
> 2.  Install, update and run Ad-Aware 6.
> 3.  Install, update and run CWShredder.

> There is a class of exploits out there called "CoolWebSearch" that wreaks
> havoc with IE and the HOSTS file.  You can only find them with the above
> programs, and CWShredder is the only one known to find and remove all
known
> versions of this Bovine-Residue.

> Even if it's not your issue, I assure you that you're going to be amazed
at
> what these programs find.

> -Larry

<snip>

Larry,

   Very interesting stuff there.   Spybot is pretty cool if only because the
author is so up front about what he is doing.  I love his license agreement
:-)
I did a search on Newsupd.exe when I reinstalled my soundcard drivers this
last time.  Not sure what I had done before but I don't remember coming
accross that program.  Probably because I only istalled the drivers and this
time I decided to check out the included software from creative.  Anyway, I
must have run across one of the authors pages because I saw almost verbatim
the same info in the spybot program.  No, Newsupd.exe is not active though I
have not removed it, Zonealarm has it blocked.  Other things that it came up
with are media player and IE vulnerabilities which I do not consider spyware
but I suppose it can be on the list and he does warn the end user to be
aware of possible non-spyware findings.
Pretty amazing to see a webpage and software designed specifically around
one spyware company, CWS is pretty scary, I had a run in with the earlier
versions a couple of times.
I run pretty barebones on my system, don't like a lot of software running
because I think it clouds things up too much and I lose track of what should
and should not be happening.   Zonealarm and Ad-aware are the only utilities
I keep running and even with XP I reboot (or coldboot) often just to see
what happens  :-)

One of my favorite pages:
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

Sean

Uwe Sch??rkam

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:35:46


> Now, for the point that bothers me.  What is different from having one
> browser window with tabs vs. having multiple browser windows selectable from
> the task bar?   Just seems to me to be the same thing, easily selectable and

Both mozilla and firebird support multiple windows and / or tabs. If
you're concerned about security / privacy, non-IE browsing is the way
to go.

cheers,

uwe

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Mitch_

completely OT: IE browser misbehaving

by Mitch_ » Fri, 06 Feb 2004 01:50:22

Dont forget my fav Opera.



> > Now, for the point that bothers me.  What is different from having one
> > browser window with tabs vs. having multiple browser windows selectable
from
> > the task bar?   Just seems to me to be the same thing, easily selectable
and

> Both mozilla and firebird support multiple windows and / or tabs. If
> you're concerned about security / privacy, non-IE browsing is the way
> to go.

> cheers,

> uwe

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