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by **Marcus Adkiso** » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Hello all you Nascar Fans. I too am an eager Nascar Player I love to spend
all afternoon tearing it up at Talledega or pulling my hair out at Watkins
Glen. I use a Thrustmaster FCS and believe I am a very good driver. I
qualify first almost every time on 100% on most track, my fastest track is
Martinsville I love that track. But I think I could be faster if I could
feather the throttle through the turns with pedals, so my question is...
what pedals are inexpensive but are longlasting, I don't really want a
steering wheel cause I do very good with my Thrustmaster, but I think
pedals will be a must once NRL comes around and I want to get some practice
in:-)

TIP: Anyone using a keyboard to play-STOP RIGHT NOW- and go buy a joystick
even a 10 dollar cheapo is better than the keyboard. And take Braking help
off, you'll improve your lap time be 10-15 mph atleast I did.

by **Chri** » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

> Hello all you Nascar Fans. I too am an eager Nascar Player I love to spend
> all afternoon tearing it up at Talledega or pulling my hair out at Watkins
> Glen. I use a Thrustmaster FCS and believe I am a very good driver. I
> qualify first almost every time on 100% on most track, my fastest track is
> Martinsville I love that track. But I think I could be faster if I could
> feather the throttle through the turns with pedals, so my question is...
> what pedals are inexpensive but are longlasting, I don't really want a
> steering wheel cause I do very good with my Thrustmaster, but I think
> pedals will be a must once NRL comes around and I want to get some practice
> in:-)

> TIP: Anyone using a keyboard to play-STOP RIGHT NOW- and go buy a joystick
> even a 10 dollar cheapo is better than the keyboard. And take Braking help
> off, you'll improve your lap time be 10-15 mph atleast I did.

I have both the CH Flightstick and the Thrustmaster T2. The T2 is the
best (in my humble opinion) and it comes with pedals. All for about

CH Pro. The Pro pedals I have are bought seperate and cost about $50.
They will work with your joystick. However, if I had $50 I would wait
until I had $130 and get the T2. Lap times will be much better than any
joystick.

The CH Pro is nice if you want something for both flying and driving.
That is assuming you have time to try and master anything other than
NASCAR. You'll have to drive like the real NASCAR drivers with one foot
for accelerator and one for brake because of some plastic on the
pedals. This isn't true for the T2. I don't drive with two feet in the
"real" world but it's not too tough and actually helps at the short
tracks.

by **David Spark** » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

>Hello all you Nascar Fans. I too am an eager Nascar Player I love to spend
>all afternoon tearing it up at Talledega or pulling my hair out at Watkins
>Glen. I use a Thrustmaster FCS and believe I am a very good driver. I
>qualify first almost every time on 100% on most track, my fastest track is
>Martinsville I love that track. But I think I could be faster if I could
>feather the throttle through the turns with pedals, so my question is...
>what pedals are inexpensive but are longlasting, I don't really want a
>steering wheel cause I do very good with my Thrustmaster, but I think
>pedals will be a must once NRL comes around and I want to get some practice
>in:-)

>TIP: Anyone using a keyboard to play-STOP RIGHT NOW- and go buy a joystick
>even a 10 dollar cheapo is better than the keyboard. And take Braking help
>off, you'll improve your lap time be 10-15 mph atleast I did.

Well, I like my CH Pro Pedals, but you have to get used to left-footed
braking. I prefer to drive this way, I find my reaction times are much
better and I can blip the throttle or the brake in the corners to correct
the steering. In fact, I was trying out a friend's T2 the other day and
drove 2-footed on it as well. I think he thought I was crazy. <g>

Another benefit, if you like flight sims, the CH Pro Pedals double as
rudder pedals. I think they run about $60, but there's a cheaper version
that doesn't have the rudder feature for around $40.

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

by **Ron R.** » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

>Hello all you Nascar Fans. I too am an eager Nascar Player I love to spend
>all afternoon tearing it up at Talledega or pulling my hair out at Watkins
>Glen. I use a Thrustmaster FCS and believe I am a very good driver. I
>qualify first almost every time on 100% on most track, my fastest track is
>Martinsville I love that track. But I think I could be faster if I could
>feather the throttle through the turns with pedals, so my question is...
>what pedals are inexpensive but are longlasting, I don't really want a
>steering wheel cause I do very good with my Thrustmaster, but I think
>pedals will be a must once NRL comes around and I want to get some practice
>in:-)
>TIP: Anyone using a keyboard to play-STOP RIGHT NOW- and go buy a joystick
>even a 10 dollar cheapo is better than the keyboard. And take Braking help
>off, you'll improve your lap time be 10-15 mph atleast I did.

I run the CH Flightstick which has great response for a stick for
driving in my opinion, I tried the Thrustmaster FCS and found it too
stiff for my liking, Wrist dies in about 10 laps. Recently bought the
CH Pedals for about 50 bucks at egghead software and love them.
Running just the stick I thought I was doing ok even for having gas
and brake running either full on or full off, then I got the pedals
which have a splitter built in for the stick and WOW what a
difference. I now find my line to be much smoother and I can even
watch my replays of race starts and cautions now and have to search
for my car instead of just looking for the one that's all over the
place out of line or constantly going too fast/slow. On some tracks I
think I picked up a good 3-8mph just going to the pedals with a stick
on my original stick only setups, cant wait to tweak them in some. One
point though that I haven't seen yet.
The pedals have a good base but the little *** feet may stick well
to tile and to carpet protector mats for office chairs but on carpet
they will slide around on you if you aren't carefull about balanceing
how much weight you put down on them as opposed to how much horizontal
force you put on them. The pivot takes some getting used to as the
point is about a third of the way up the pedals and they have a heel
cup so you have to rock your feet to use them instead of pressing down
and lifting up so you won't be heel and toeing these guys but I love
em. From what I've heard about springs they seem much more solid than
the T1 or T2 pedals.
Hope this helps
Ron R II

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by **Mark** » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

I have the T2 also and almost paid 130 for it as well. Call a few
stores before you buy and should be able to save from 20 to 30
buckaroos. You probably won't even have to go out of your way to pick
it up as your local should match the price of the rival store. Try best
buy if you have one in your state.

by **ra..** » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

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Marcus,
I have the CH pedals, I also have the CH flight yoke/wheel. I have built
a custom wheel but feel no need to build pedals.
The CH pedals are very nice and seem to be well-built. For the $49
that I spent on them I think they are well worth it.
That's my opinion.
Have never used the T1-2 pedals.
Hope this helps you,
Ralph<Ralphw on Hawaii>Williams

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