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GP2 "Prost" Simulation

Ian Howe

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Ian Howe » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Last night I tried to emulated Alain Prost in GP2.
I removed all oppostion from the races so I was the only
one in it and I won the championship with hardly any effort.

Brilliant Sim. Just like real life.

Tommorrow I will do the M. Andretti style season by qualifying
in mid-grid and crashing ater 3 laps.

;)

Ian.

Scott Willse

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Scott Willse » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Wow, I can hardly recall the FIA allowing four full seasons of one car
racing around each track so that Prost could win the championship, but you
might be right!

What I remembered was that in 1986, Prost beat the two Williams (driven by
Mansell and Piquet) in an inferior McLaren for the world championship.  In
1989, he beat one Ayrton Senna (hardly no opposition IMHO), and again in
1990 nearly did the same, and probably would have if Senna hadn't gotten a
little over attracted to the rear of his car.

It's obvious that in 1993, Prost had the best car.  However, Prost has
always put forth the level of speed/aggression required, and no more.  Why
lap the field in a Williams, when simply winning will do?

I am a much greater fan of exciting drivers like Ayrton Senna, Jean Alesi,
and so on, but you don't win four world championships over 8 years by being
lucky.

Scott

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John Walla

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by John Walla » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Correction - Mansell and Piquet beat themselves by taking too many
points from each other. Prost won when Mansell's tire blew, and it was
only because Mansell controlled the slide and didn't get the race
stopped that Prost won.

 In

In 1989 Prost won when Senna was t-boned by Mansell while leading in
Portugal (Prost's new team-mate strangely enough....), and then driven
off the circuit by Prost when he overtook into *** Chicane. -20
points for Senna, and another WC for Prost.

Well, not stalling the car would help, and possibly learning how to
drive in the wet, but otherwise he did well ;0

Cheers!
John

Robert E. Bru

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Robert E. Bru » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00


>Last night I tried to emulated Alain Prost in GP2.
>I removed all oppostion from the races so I was the only
>one in it and I won the championship with hardly any effort.
>Brilliant Sim. Just like real life.
>Tommorrow I will do the M. Andretti style season by qualifying
>in mid-grid and crashing ater 3 laps.

Don't forget to take someone else out with you.  Paul Tracy would be
most realistic.

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Bob Bruss

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Isaac Wo

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Isaac Wo » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00



|>
|>
|>
|> >Last night I tried to emulated Alain Prost in GP2.
|> >I removed all oppostion from the races so I was the only
|> >one in it and I won the championship with hardly any effort.
|>
|> >Brilliant Sim. Just like real life.
|>
|> >Tommorrow I will do the M. Andretti style season by qualifying
|> >in mid-grid and crashing ater 3 laps.
|>
|> Don't forget to take someone else out with you.  Paul Tracy would be
|> most realistic.

Try:
David "I just wanted to test the strength of this pit wall" Coulthard, or
Damon "I was employed to mow the lawns on the Spanish circuit" Hill, or
Jean "If I can't beat it, ram it hit it" Alesi, or
Olivier "Wait for everybody to drop out" Panis etc.

:-)
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John Wallac

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by John Wallac » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00


writes

He could also try to be Michael Schumacher. That's much easier, just
press F7.......

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AdLevesq

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by AdLevesq » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Yea, I remember the race a few years ago (Portugal?) when Prost had a much
better car but once it started raining he was doomed.  Senna drove the
darn wheels off the car.  I haven't seen driving like that since.  I guess
that's why he was the best in the world.

Adam
Papyrus

Magnus Lindber

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Magnus Lindber » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00


> Yea, I remember the race a few years ago (Portugal?) when Prost had a much
> better car but once it started raining he was doomed.  Senna drove the
> darn wheels off the car.  I haven't seen driving like that since.  I guess
> that's why he was the best in the world.

> Adam
> Papyrus

I think you mean the European GP in -93 at Donington Park. Pure Senna
magic!

I think Prost made 6 or 7 pitstops that evening...

/m

David Goodwi

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by David Goodwi » Fri, 09 Aug 1996 04:00:00




> writes
> >David "I just wanted to test the strength of this pit wall" Coulthard, or
> >Damon "I was employed to mow the lawns on the Spanish circuit" Hill, or
> >Jean "If I can't beat it, ram it hit it" Alesi, or
> >Olivier "Wait for everybody to drop out" Panis etc.

> He could also try to be Michael Schumacher. That's much easier, just
> press F7.......

...and then remove the F7 key from your
keyboard and plead that you never pressed it ;)

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David Goodwin

Sebastien Tixie

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Sebastien Tixie » Sat, 10 Aug 1996 04:00:00



> > Yea, I remember the race a few years ago (Portugal?) when Prost had a much
> > better car but once it started raining he was doomed.  Senna drove the
> > darn wheels off the car.  I haven't seen driving like that since.  I guess
> > that's why he was the best in the world.

> > Adam
> > Papyrus

> I think you mean the European GP in -93 at Donington Park. Pure Senna
> magic!

> I think Prost made 6 or 7 pitstops that evening...

> /m

Senna was a GREAT champion, but i prefer Prost ( more clever ),
he didn't burn his tires and don't push engine too much so he didn't
break is car!. Ok senna was a better pilot on track but Prost was very\
good on pits and tracks so he won more Championship . And Also Prost
don't push too good rival
in the grass !
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Paul Gra

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Paul Gra » Sat, 10 Aug 1996 04:00:00



>Well, not stalling the car would help, and possibly learning how to

It might have helped if his clutchg was not broken.
John Wallac

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by John Wallac » Sat, 10 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Actually that's not strictly true. You notice that Prost sat far more
_race_ fastest laps than Senna. This is because Senna had the skill to
really push a heavy car with cold tires early in the race. By building a
huge lead he could nurse his car to the end. Prost usually started
slowly, and he had to push in the later stages (fast laps in those days
were set at the end of the race when fuel load was lighter (no
refuelling).

No, he pushes them of into the escape road.... ;-)

Cheers!
John

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John Wallac

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by John Wallac » Sat, 10 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Wow, it broke twice in that one race and three time in the season.
That's really unlucky... ;)

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Rick Baumhaue

GP2 "Prost" Simulation

by Rick Baumhaue » Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:00:00

SNIP

> Senna was a GREAT champion, but i prefer Prost ( more clever ),
> he didn't burn his tires and don't push engine too much so he didn't
> break is car!. Ok senna was a better pilot on track but Prost was very\
> good on pits and tracks so he won more Championship . And Also Prost
> don't push too good rival
> in the grass !
> --
> ================================================
> *    Magic_Fr - stixier - Sebastien Tixier     *
> *      Etudiant en Maitrise Informatique       *
> *      Universite Claude Bernard Lyon1         *
> *    Stagiaire au LIP a l'ENS sur DOSMOS       *

> * url    : http://www.ens-lyon.fr/~stixier     *
> ================================================

Um, did you see Japan '89, when Prost drove into Senna to keep him from
passing at the chicane?  It's obvious if you stop the tape just before
the cars touch - Prost turned in so early that he would have gone off
the track if Senna's car wasn't there to stop him.

Prost only won one more championship than Senna, and he was in F1 for
three more seasons than Senna was.  In equal equipment, Senna dusted
Prost, and in unequal equipment (Prost's car was better in '90 and '93)
Senna still won a championship and carried the fight much further than
anyone else could have - nobody else could have won 5 races at McLaren
in '93.

Senna consistently got more out of his car than Prost, and if not for
Imola, we would probably be watching Senna win his sixth championship
this year.

Nothing against Prost - he was a great driver, a good embassador for the
sport, and a basically nice guy, but he was a VERY political guy who
liked to pretend he wasn't.

Rick


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