rec.autos.simulators

>> N2k3: I can Alt Tab in and out from most screens, most of the time.
>> However, if on track, I always get a crash to desktop.

> Well I don't play the other ones but after reading this I have one
> question.
> Why would you be alt-tabing out of n2003 when you're on the track?
> --
> Anthony Brooks

>> OK, actually just a request for help. I posted a few months ago with
>> the problem I have Alt-Tabbing out of NR2003. Still have the problem
>> but I have collected a hell of a lot more data so I thought I'd try
>> again. I'm going to sort this damn thing if it's the last thing I do.

>> I use only 3 3D games - N2k3, GTR and rFactor. I run all in 1024x768,
>> 32 bit, 6xAA, 16xAF, all game options maxed out. This is the same as my
>> desktop setting.
> <snip>

> From my observations, alt-tab usually works reliably out of OpenGL games,
> but not out of DirectX games. In NR2003 I had alt-tab problems when
> running
> in D3D mode, but in OpenGL it was working fine. I've also seen the same
> pattern in other games (not in your list). Do you have the problems you've
> described in D3D, OpenGL or both?

>>> OK, actually just a request for help. I posted a few months ago with
>>> the problem I have Alt-Tabbing out of NR2003. Still have the problem
>>> but I have collected a hell of a lot more data so I thought I'd try
>>> again. I'm going to sort this damn thing if it's the last thing I do.

>>> I use only 3 3D games - N2k3, GTR and rFactor. I run all in 1024x768,
>>> 32 bit, 6xAA, 16xAF, all game options maxed out. This is the same as
>>> my desktop setting.
>> <snip>

>> From my observations, alt-tab usually works reliably out of OpenGL
>> games, but not out of DirectX games. In NR2003 I had alt-tab problems
>> when running in D3D mode, but in OpenGL it was working fine. I've also
>> seen the same pattern in other games (not in your list). Do you have
>> the problems you've described in D3D, OpenGL or both?

> I cab Alt Tab in OpenGL but in all other respects OpenGL is unusable
> for me (poor frame rates, glitches etc).

> >> N2k3: I can Alt Tab in and out from most screens, most of the time.
> >> However, if on track, I always get a crash to desktop.

> > Well I don't play the other ones but after reading this I have one
> > question.
> > Why would you be alt-tabing out of n2003 when you're on the track?
> > --
> > Anthony Brooks

> > >> N2k3: I can Alt Tab in and out from most screens, most of the time.
> > >> However, if on track, I always get a crash to desktop.

> > > Well I don't play the other ones but after reading this I have one
> > > question.
> > > Why would you be alt-tabing out of n2003 when you're on the track?
> > > --
> > > Anthony Brooks

> If your need to multitask is so important, I'd suggest a second computer
> for your other important apps. Of course, I am curious as to what is so
> important that needs alt-tabbing all the time..

> .
> .
> .

> NEILTHEREAL: hey baby, b right back 2 laps need 2 dial out oversteer

> ThirTandhornE: ur so dreamy. 2 laps only promise

> NEILTHEREAL: promse! brb

> /alt-tab pzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaaaptswhing

> ;)

> MRSisson
> --
> LOAD "GPL",8,1
> RUN

>> OK, actually just a request for help. I posted a few months ago with the
>> problem I have Alt-Tabbing out of NR2003. Still have the problem but I
>> have collected a hell of a lot more data so I thought I'd try again. I'm
>> going to sort this damn thing if it's the last thing I do.

>> I use only 3 3D games - N2k3, GTR and rFactor. I run all in 1024x768, 32
>> bit, 6xAA, 16xAF, all game options maxed out. This is the same as my
>> desktop setting. I have included a link to my system details in the
>> Everest report format:

>> http://www.neil.charlton.name/downloads/Everest.htm

>> Here are some detailed symptoms:

>> rFactor: Alt Tab works almost flawlessly - the only issue is that if I
>> Alt Tab away from the first screen (with the spinning car), the car
>> disappears on return. Other than this, Alt Tab works any time, anywhere.
>> For a test demo - this thing is impressive on a number of levels.

>> N2k3: I can Alt Tab in and out from most screens, most of the time.
>> However, if on track, I always get a crash to desktop.

>> GTR: In contrast to rFactor, this thing is a P.O.S. on many levels.
>> Sticking to the particular problem in hand, if I Alt Tab form any screen,
>> I get what appears to be a black screen with horizontal 'sound bars' on
>> my return. The good news is that the game is clearly still running and,
>> depending on the screen I was on, I can sometimes guess where the back
>> button is work my way out of the program. It makes stuff like sensible
>> use of the Motec interpreter impossible for me.

>> Solving this problem (which I know many others have) will earn you
>> immediate peer recognition and a place in heaven.

>> Thanks in anticipation and a Happy New Year to all :)

>> Regards

>> Sometimes I need to pause when doing a long practice run and then come
>> back - no biggie but irritating.

> Neil,
> If I am racing in N2003 and need to do something and then come back I just
> pause the game and hit the Windows key "between Ctrl and Alt" and it
> minimizes N2k3 then just mouse-click it back, hit pause again and go on
> racing.

>>> Sometimes I need to pause when doing a long practice run and then come
>>> back - no biggie but irritating.

>> Neil,
>> If I am racing in N2003 and need to do something and then come back I
>> just pause the game and hit the Windows key "between Ctrl and Alt" and it
>> minimizes N2k3 then just mouse-click it back, hit pause again and go on
>> racing.

> Thx Ed - that method gave exactly the same problem as Alt Tab.
> Fortunately, all is now fixed and I'm a happy little bunny again ;)

> Thx and Regards

>>>> Sometimes I need to pause when doing a long practice run and then come
>>>> back - no biggie but irritating.

>>> Neil,
>>> If I am racing in N2003 and need to do something and then come back I
>>> just pause the game and hit the Windows key "between Ctrl and Alt" and
>>> it minimizes N2k3 then just mouse-click it back, hit pause again and go
>>> on racing.

>> Thx Ed - that method gave exactly the same problem as Alt Tab.
>> Fortunately, all is now fixed and I'm a happy little bunny again ;)

>> Thx and Regards

> Glad to hear it......... BTW, how did you get it to work?