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Overtaking!

Chris Bloo

Overtaking!

by Chris Bloo » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Does anyone else have this problem:

You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by
yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you
only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which
renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car.

I know what the answer is; patience.  I know I should wait for a safe
opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the
window.

Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to
try and overcome these mental problems?

Chris

Michael Barlo

Overtaking!

by Michael Barlo » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00


> Does anyone else have this problem:

> You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by
> yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you
> only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which
> renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car.

> I know what the answer is; patience.  I know I should wait for a safe
> opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the
> window.

> Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to
> try and overcome these mental problems?

> Chris

        hehe..  you are right though, !!PATIENCE!!  In the GPML series, this
past Sunday we ran the Converted Glen (Modern Glen).  I was leading all
the way to lap ten when I came across a back marker.  This Glen doesn't
have Blue flags to tell him that I'm the leader and he should let me
by.  I knew this and just sat behind him for about three or four laps.
All this time the second place guy was getting bigger and bigger in my
mirrors and I knew that if I didn't get by this lapper I'd end up losing
first place.  I also knew that if I tried to pass him in the wrong place
I might end up mowing the lawns and still losing first place.  So I just
sat there and waited, and waited, and waited.  Finally with one second
between my and the second place driver, The lapper spins in the ninety.
WooHoo, I can now continue my race in first place and try to build up
that lead again!!

        Dang it, wouldn't yah know it, I was so e***d that I ended up over
powering the car on the exit of the ninety just after the lapper spun.
The second place guy ended up taking the lead while I tried to gather my
self back up and get going before he got too far ahead.  Luckily this
wasn't long and I ended up just two seconds behind.  It took another
five or six laps of breathing in his exhaust fumes and getting so close
to him I could reach out and touch his gear box.  I finally found that I
was a bit quicker getting on the brakes, but softer in the ninety then
he was.  So, I took the advantage and out braked him on the inside and
regained the lead.

        For the rest of that lap he was pretty much stuck to my tail pipe and
scaring the heck out of me.  He must have been studying his mirrors
while I was behind him because he attempted to pass me in the chute
(180* just after the inner loop) where I'm the slowest.  He grabbed the
inside and we ran side by side down most of the next strait.  Just
before the braking point for turn ten, I was able to pull in front of
him and get ready for the turn.  Unfortunately, I wasn't quite ready for
it and ended up spinning.  hehe, luck was on my side that day because
while trying to avoid me, he ended up spinning as well.  I took off
quicker then he did and went on to win the race.

        If you read all that you'll see that I waited for the right time and
right place to pass both drivers.  I didn't wait for the next corner, or
even the next several corners, I waited several laps before I found the
right place. !!PATIENCE!! is what it took!  I had enough of it that I
ended up winning:)

BTW: I'm now in first place in the points race!!

        And to the other drivers of GPML....  I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I
WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I
WON, Nothing is better then rubbing it in<g>  I WON, I WON, I WON, <G>
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Mark Seer

Overtaking!

by Mark Seer » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

<A load of useless conceited drivel about how good he is....blah blah blah.

whatever you say............

MS

Aubre

Overtaking!

by Aubre » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks.  Unless,
of course, the guy makes a small mistake.  Monaco, Mosport and Watkins Glen
come to mind.  Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that
you're not gonna get by unless he screws up.  Better to settle for second
than ruin somebody's race.  Not sure what you can do about the red mist.
Drinking too much coffee, maybe?

My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to
spinning cars!  Infuriating! :)

-A


>Does anyone else have this problem:

>You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by
>yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you
>only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which
>renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car.

>I know what the answer is; patience.  I know I should wait for a safe
>opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the
>window.

>Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to
>try and overcome these mental problems?

>Chris

Cossi

Overtaking!

by Cossi » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00

F1 is not meant to have any passing. Just look at modern F1 hehehehe. Only race that a lot of passing was Magny Cours, but
that was in the rain.  The most impressive run had to be the drive for Michael in 98 from last place in Suzuka, he came
back to like 4th or 5th before his wheel gave out



>I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks.  Unless,
>of course, the guy makes a small mistake.  Monaco, Mosport and Watkins Glen
>come to mind.  Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that
>you're not gonna get by unless he screws up.  Better to settle for second
>than ruin somebody's race.  Not sure what you can do about the red mist.
>Drinking too much coffee, maybe?

>My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to
>spinning cars!  Infuriating! :)

>-A


>>Does anyone else have this problem:

>>You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by
>>yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you
>>only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which
>>renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car.

>>I know what the answer is; patience.  I know I should wait for a safe
>>opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the
>>window.

>>Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to
>>try and overcome these mental problems?

>>Chris

Rafe McAulif

Overtaking!

by Rafe McAulif » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00

One question for you - what is your frame rate doing around other
cars? I had the same probs 4-5 months back, and didn't realise my fps
was dropping, and I was losing control. Upgraded, and SWEEEEET! Never
had more fun!

Rafe Mc

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:42:38 -0800, "Aubrey"


>I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks.  Unless,
>of course, the guy makes a small mistake.  Monaco, Mosport and Watkins Glen
>come to mind.  Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that
>you're not gonna get by unless he screws up.  Better to settle for second
>than ruin somebody's race.  Not sure what you can do about the red mist.
>Drinking too much coffee, maybe?

>My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to
>spinning cars!  Infuriating! :)

>-A


>>Does anyone else have this problem:

>>You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by
>>yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass you
>>only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre which
>>renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car.

>>I know what the answer is; patience.  I know I should wait for a safe
>>opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the
>>window.

>>Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers to
>>try and overcome these mental problems?

>>Chris

Morgan VW

Overtaking!

by Morgan VW » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00

That's a good story. I've been keeping that in mind today while practicing
running in traffic in GPL. Thanks.

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http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/
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> hehe..  you are right though, !!PATIENCE!!  In the GPML series, this
> past Sunday we ran the Converted Glen (Modern Glen).  I was leading all
[clip]
> And to the other drivers of GPML....  I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I
> WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I WON, I
> WON, Nothing is better then rubbing it in<g>  I WON, I WON, I WON, <G>
> --
> =========================================
> Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing?
> =========================================
> http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/

> Racing online with the help of......

> Race Communications Association
> Holodyne Engineering
> Mystic Music
> (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Chris Bloo

Overtaking!

by Chris Bloo » Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:00:00

If there is only one or two cars ahead I am still getting up around 36fps,
actually the only time I get alot less is at the start with a full grid,
though this is less crucial as its always easier to restart if there is a
pile up on the grid:)


> One question for you - what is your frame rate doing around other
> cars? I had the same probs 4-5 months back, and didn't realise my fps
> was dropping, and I was losing control. Upgraded, and SWEEEEET! Never
> had more fun!

> Rafe Mc

> On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:42:38 -0800, "Aubrey"

> >I think it's impossible to make a clean, fair pass on some tracks.
Unless,
> >of course, the guy makes a small mistake.  Monaco, Mosport and Watkins
Glen
> >come to mind.  Sometimes you just have to hang in there and concede that
> >you're not gonna get by unless he screws up.  Better to settle for second
> >than ruin somebody's race.  Not sure what you can do about the red mist.
> >Drinking too much coffee, maybe?

> >My biggest problem is the inexplicable magnetic attraction I have to
> >spinning cars!  Infuriating! :)

> >-A


> >>Does anyone else have this problem:

> >>You run lap after lap (just about any sim, but maybe GPL more so) by
> >>yourself with no trouble, as soon as you come up to another car to pass
you
> >>only seem able to either 1) Attempt a ridiculous overtaking manouvre
which
> >>renders your car in a wall, 2) Manage to hit the other car.

> >>I know what the answer is; patience.  I know I should wait for a safe
> >>opportunity but I guess I get the red mist and common sense goes out the
> >>window.

> >>Maybe someone should set up an on-line Pyscho therapy service for GPLers
to
> >>try and overcome these mental problems?

> >>Chris


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