rec.autos.simulators

Now if this demo is OFFICIALLY made available for download by the
publisher/developer, than it will be appropriate for internet users to
criticize/praise it as a representation of the final version. It will mean
that it was put on the internet by it's owners FOR internet users (like us
here at r.a.s) to be judged.

The other demo WAS NOT EVER officially made available for download off of
the internet. It was for Joystick magazine readers. It was then uploaded to
the internet by someone sitting in their living room.

I think some people need to try and remember how the internet really works
in it's current incarnation.

David G Fisher

David Cook

stands.

I am not sure what the situation was with the first Driver demo, but I just
downloaded what is called the "official Driver demo". I wonder if the RC
demo and Driver demo situations aren't similiar.

David G Fisher

R.a.s. drives me crazy sometimes.

http://france.gagames.com/rc2000/index-uk.shtml

David G Fisher

Not trying to sound like a smart ass, but what does the fact that the
gravity modelling is screwy and there is no controller support have to
do with how the internet works?

I'm looking forward to the new demo, but won't make excuses for MF's
really poor decision.

Tim

Maybe this will also help r.a.s. to understand.

David G Fisher

OK, I read the articles and I presume you want to emphasize the fact
the game is ALPHA. First let me say I like the game, and I want it.
I'll download the new demo as soon as it's available.
I love the whole concept of rally racing.

Let me re-emphasize my point.
It was going on a magazine cover-disc, so it isn't like it was leaked,
or obtained by some unscrupulous means.
In other words, it WAS made for public consumption, unless the readers
of Joystick magazine are some kind of secret society.

If it truly had been a leaked ALPHA, and MF didn't want us to see it
because it wasn't representative of the product, your comment on
understanding the internet would have made sense.

My contention is that if the demo isn't representative of the final
product, they would have been wiser to skip it altogether, making the
forthcoming ECTS release the first demo.

Tim

Readers of Joystick magazine were told exactly what the demo was. It was
made very clear that it was an ALPHA demo.

When it then became uploaded onto the internet, some people here at r.a.s.,
without doing any research as to what it truly was, went ahead and judged it
as if it was the "fully complete, official, online demo".

I never said it was leaked or obtained uscrupulously. I am saying that for
people to judge something they "find" on the internet without at least doing
a little research as to what it truly is, is a good example of the way the
internet is often used incorrectly.

David G Fisher