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GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

Tony Sande

GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

by Tony Sande » Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:00:00

When it's your car and your car is not the Williams, presumably.  I
know, and for reasons that are actually inexplicable as far as I am
concerned, that whatever car you choose to race with, it
'automagically' inherits the Williams performance.  But, does it also
inherit the driver characteristics ... i.e. the driver performance,
grip, and grip variance.

I actually like to race a car that is not equivalent to the most
powerful in the field ... It's not much of a game zooming past
everything in sight at the flick of a joystick ... so if I edit my car
and driver performance (so that I am not in an equivalent to a guided
missile), does this have any real effect ... or do I become a
surrogate Williams/Hill whether I like it or not?

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Tony R

GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

by Tony R » Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:00:00



>When it's your car and your car is not the Williams, presumably.  I
>know, and for reasons that are actually inexplicable as far as I am
>concerned, that whatever car you choose to race with, it
>'automagically' inherits the Williams performance.  But, does it also
>inherit the driver characteristics ... i.e. the driver performance,
>grip, and grip variance.

>I actually like to race a car that is not equivalent to the most
>powerful in the field ... It's not much of a game zooming past
>everything in sight at the flick of a joystick ... so if I edit my car
>and driver performance (so that I am not in an equivalent to a guided
>missile), does this have any real effect ... or do I become a
>surrogate Williams/Hill whether I like it or not?

What level of difficulty are you playing it at?
I've noticed that at rookie level it is easy to pass the other cars
but at levels beyond that you need to hit the garage and make
modifications to wings etc to be able to keep up with them.
It's certainly not easy at the harder skill levels.

Tony

Bruce Kennewel

GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:00:00

If you don't like "zooming past" every other car in the field, race in the
Pro or Ace levels!  You won't do much "zooming" past anything except,
perhaps, the back markers.

BruceK



Chris Cavi

GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

by Chris Cavi » Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:00:00

: >I actually like to race a car that is not equivalent to the most
: >powerful in the field ... It's not much of a game zooming past
: >everything in sight at the flick of a joystick ... so if I edit my car
: >and driver performance (so that I am not in an equivalent to a guided
: >missile), does this have any real effect ... or do I become a
: >surrogate Williams/Hill whether I like it or not?

I got an editor that will change the HP settings of the computer cars.
I added 50 HP to each of the other cars and it really makes the game
more realistic.  At Germany, for instance, it takes a real effort to
draft and pass the other top cars and make it stick, whereas with the
standard game, it was relatively easy to draft past on the straights.
All of this with the rear wing set on 1, by the way.  I think that with
the default settings, the player car has a horsepower advantage of 20-
40 HP.

The editor, and a lot of other GP2 stuff, can be found at:

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/5164/gp2.html

Regards,

-Dirt-

Mark Rober

GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

by Mark Rober » Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:00:00


>'automagically' inherits the Williams performance.  But, does it also
>inherit the driver characteristics ... i.e. the driver performance,
>grip, and grip variance.
>I actually like to race a car that is not equivalent to the most
>powerful in the field ... It's not much of a game zooming past
>everything in sight at the flick of a joystick ... so if I edit my car
>and driver performance (so that I am not in an equivalent to a guided
>missile), does this have any real effect ... or do I become a
>surrogate Williams/Hill whether I like it or not?

Dunno basically.  But something to try if you like racing for lower or
middle order teams is get the utility GP2CCPE (can`t remember the
programmer) find the difference in horsepower between Williams and the
team you wish to race for and then increase all powers by that amount.
The problems with this is that the top teams may end up running
ridiculously low times and your team mate will be well up on your
straight line speed (assuming it doesn`t just give you a Williams HP)

Mark
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"..every lap I think `Oh bollocks!
This is dreadful..`" Damon Hill
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Tony Sande

GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

by Tony Sande » Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:00:00





>>When it's your car and your car is not the Williams, presumably.  I
>>know, and for reasons that are actually inexplicable as far as I am
>>concerned, that whatever car you choose to race with, it
>>'automagically' inherits the Williams performance.
...snip...
>What level of difficulty are you playing it at?
>I've noticed that at rookie level it is easy to pass the other cars
>but at levels beyond that you need to hit the garage and make
>modifications to wings etc to be able to keep up with them.
>It's certainly not easy at the harder skill levels.

I've just "graduated" from rookie to amateur ... and yes, the AI cars
are much tougher opponents.  In my first Championship season I
qualified for Brazil at 3rd place on the grid.  This time around I
could only make 22nd place (albeit with no setup tweaks) ... now this
could get interesting.

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Tony Sanders
Wellington
New Zealand             ... absolutely, positively nuclear-free,
                                and absolutely OS/2 Warped.


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Mark Rober

GP2 ... when is a Williams not a Williams?

by Mark Rober » Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Of cousre, I`m wrong again.  If you assume the power of a Williams
then originally your team mate will be way down on your straight line
speed (unless you drive for Williams).  A global increase in HP will
put him closer to level and not ahead.

Mark
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"..every lap I think `Oh bollocks!
This is dreadful..`" Damon Hill
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