rec.autos.simulators

F2/3 engine displacement?

Shaun Robinso

F2/3 engine displacement?

by Shaun Robinso » Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Does any one know what the engines are suppose to represent? In Canadian
terms we have Pro-Vees, 1200 cc; Formula Fords, 1600 cc; Canadian Champ
Car Lights, 2000 cc. Is there any theories on what goes were. Note: I
have no idea what the engine size is on current F2/3's.
Doug Gordo

F2/3 engine displacement?

by Doug Gordo » Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:00:00



Assuming you're talking about GPL, then the answer is that they don't
really represent anything in particular. The engine is modeled the same
for all marques, and is basically just a GP engine that is down on
horsepower. Remember that GPL refers to these cars as "trainers", and
they are not even available for racing on or off-line unless you go in
and directly edit your .ini file. It is the RAS community that actually
dubbed them "F2" and "F3" once we found out how to do this!

  Doug Gordon

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Ian Hil

F2/3 engine displacement?

by Ian Hil » Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:00:00


While the European F3 championship was still being held, (1975-84), the
rules for F3 were 2000cc max capacity, normally-aspirated stock-block
engines, maximum 4 cylinders.
While F2 was still running ie up to 1984, it too had 2000cc max capacity,
normally aspirated, but with a max of 6 cylinders. When it was replaced by
F3000 in 1985, this specified 3000cc max displacement.

HTH
--

Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!

Shaun Robinso

F2/3 engine displacement?

by Shaun Robinso » Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Damn, i guess the sub 2000 cc don't exist huh? But that i mean they're
to insignificant. Thanks.



> > Does any one know what the engines are suppose to represent? In Canadian
> > terms we have Pro-Vees, 1200 cc; Formula Fords, 1600 cc; Canadian Champ
> > Car Lights, 2000 cc. Is there any theories on what goes were. Note: I
> > hav no idea what the engine size is on current F2/3's.

> While the European F3 championship was still being held, (1975-84), the
> rules for F3 were 2000cc max capacity, normally-aspirated stock-block
> engines, maximum 4 cylinders.
> While F2 was still running ie up to 1984, it too had 2000cc max capacity,
> normally aspirated, but with a max of 6 cylinders. When it was replaced by
> F3000 in 1985, this specified 3000cc max displacement.

> HTH
> --

> Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!

Ian Hil

F2/3 engine displacement?

by Ian Hil » Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Actually the early F2's *did* have lower displacement. Here's a better list
of F2 specs (for the European F2 Championship):

1948-53: 2000cc normally aspirated or 500cc supercharged.
1957-60: 1500cc n.a.
1964-66: 1000cc n.a. , 4 cyl max
1967-71: 1300-1600cc n.a., 6 cyl max, engine block from a type of car of
which at least 500 had been built in the last year.
1972-75: 2000cc n.a., engine block and cylinder head from a type of car of
which at least 1000 had been built.
1976-84: 2000cc normally aspirated engine capacity, pure racing engines
allowed,
maximum of 6 cylinders.

HTH
--

Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!

Kevin Caldwel

F2/3 engine displacement?

by Kevin Caldwel » Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:00:00

F1 used to be 1500 cc normally aspirated. Not sure of the exact years,
and I'm at work without references, but maybe '62 to '66?

Kevin Caldwell


> Damn, i guess the sub 2000 cc don't exist huh? But that i mean they're
> to insignificant. Thanks.




> > > Does any one know what the engines are suppose to represent? In Canadian
> > > terms we have Pro-Vees, 1200 cc; Formula Fords, 1600 cc; Canadian Champ
> > > Car Lights, 2000 cc. Is there any theories on what goes were. Note: I
> > > hav no idea what the engine size is on current F2/3's.

> > While the European F3 championship was still being held, (1975-84), the
> > rules for F3 were 2000cc max capacity, normally-aspirated stock-block
> > engines, maximum 4 cylinders.
> > While F2 was still running ie up to 1984, it too had 2000cc max capacity,
> > normally aspirated, but with a max of 6 cylinders. When it was replaced by
> > F3000 in 1985, this specified 3000cc max displacement.

> > HTH
> > --

> > Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!

Ian Hil

F2/3 engine displacement?

by Ian Hil » Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Very close indeed. You were thinking of 61-65.

F1 engine displacements, 1950-present:
(na = Normally Aspirated, sc=Supercharged, tc=Turbocharged)
1950-51: 4500 na, 1500 sc
1952-53 (Formula 2 rules) 2000 na, 500 sc
1954-60: 2500 na, 750 sc
1961-65: 1500 na (no sc)
1966-85: 3000 na, 1500 sc/tc
1986: 1500 sc/tc (no na)
1987-88: 3500 na, 1500 sc/tc
1989-94: 3500 na
1995-present: 3000 na

HTH
--

Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!


rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.