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Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

Howard Che

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by Howard Che » Wed, 09 Aug 1995 04:00:00

I think I have discovered a bug in version 1.2 of Papyrus Nascar Racing.  
I was racing at Bristol, 26 cars in the field, 98% opponent strength, no
damage, no yellow, no wind, constant weather.
I was in traffic(in the lead) about the lap about 5 cars.  All of the
sudden, without an impact, my car started spinning.  It spun faster than
I have ever seen.  I hit the outside wall of turn 3, then bounce acrossed
the track.  Somehow went through the inside wall, still spinning.  I was
spinning in the garage area, except there was no trailers or anything,
just lots and lots of green.  I spun back out on the track in turn one,
didn't cross the start/finish line and ram right into a few of the cars
in the pack.  I then stopped spinning after hitting about 5 cars(killing
them all).  I started driving off.
When I pressed F2, I was shown being passed by Jarrett because of all
these spinning, but something else happened.  This is what the screen
looked like(kind of).
Pos.    Driver       Time
1       D. Jarrett    
2       V. Cheng     -53.9
3       M. Martin    -1.2
4       R. Wallace   -1.5
5       D. Earnhardt -3.0

Has anyone experienced a similar incident?

Vince "using my bro's account" Cheng

Jeff Fogliet

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by Jeff Fogliet » Wed, 09 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Sounds to me like you were clipped from behind and sent for a spin.
Did you look at the replay?????? I would love to have seen this. The
replay would have showed it all. As for you being 53 seconds behind,
that's probably because you never crossed the start/finish line, fell
way behind in all your spinning, then the track got blocked from
all the wrecks so the lead cars couldn't cross the finish line either.
I don't think this is a bug but it sounds like an incredible wreck.

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Howard Che

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by Howard Che » Wed, 09 Aug 1995 04:00:00


>Sounds to me like you were clipped from behind and sent for a spin.

After looking at the replays from the 4 cars that were near by and
from all possible angles, I concluded that I was not nearly close enough
to be cliped, plus I was the only car on turn 3 to spin.

Nope.  I only crashed out 3 cars, and they were no where close to the
front.  The situation is this, I spun through the concrete walls and came
out on the other side of the track.  I did not just sit there and spin.  
My car spun over 40 times, which is impossible, knowing how slow you must
go at Bristol.

        started spinning here!
             /===========================\
            (                             )
             \===========================/
                                       came out from the concrete here!

I don't think anyone touched me, even if they did, I should have gone
through the concrete like that.  Maybe it has to do with the fact that
damage is off.

Vince "using my bro's account" Cheng

Graveltr

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by Graveltr » Wed, 09 Aug 1995 04:00:00

This bug is not uncommon in INDYCAR racing.  I thought sure Papyrus would
have fixed it for NASCAR but apparently not.
Jimbo

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by Jimbo » Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:00:00

Well I had the same thing happen with NASCAR (version
1.2.1) just the other day.  I was coming off turn four at MIS
at it made some weird sound and I just started spinning
***ly - I mean, I was _spinning_, jack!  I viewed it from
several different camera angles, and there was clearly nobody
even near me.  But, both front quarter panels and my hood
either got severly damaged or torn off all together.

So far that's the one and only time it has happened, knock
on wood....

Jim

WILLIAM D NOL

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by WILLIAM D NOL » Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:00:00


Since I haven't played enough long races to experience this yet, is this
sudden blip and spin possibly Papyrus' way of simulating cutting a tire?
Sure wouldn't explain the teleportation, but it might explain the cause
for the spin.

Bill

Brian Wo

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by Brian Wo » Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:00:00




>>Sounds to me like you were clipped from behind and sent for a spin.

>After looking at the replays from the 4 cars that were near by and
>from all possible angles, I concluded that I was not nearly close enough
>to be cliped, plus I was the only car on turn 3 to spin.

>>Did you look at the replay?????? I would love to have seen this. The
>>replay would have showed it all. As for you being 53 seconds behind,
>>that's probably because you never crossed the start/finish line, fell
>>way behind in all your spinning, then the track got blocked from
>>all the wrecks so the lead cars couldn't cross the finish line either.
>>I don't think this is a bug but it sounds like an incredible wreck.

>Nope.  I only crashed out 3 cars, and they were no where close to the
>front.  The situation is this, I spun through the concrete walls and came
>out on the other side of the track.  I did not just sit there and spin.  
>My car spun over 40 times, which is impossible, knowing how slow you must
>go at Bristol.

>        started spinning here!
>             /===========================\
>            (                             )
>             \===========================/
>                                       came out from the concrete here!

>I don't think anyone touched me, even if they did, I should have gone
>through the concrete like that.  Maybe it has to do with the fact that
>damage is off.

apparently NASCAR has the same bug as IndyCar.  I call it the "teleport" bug.
It's been biting us in IndyCar for years.  One time I was racing at Vancouver,
a full lap ahead of the field when I went into the tunnel and I heard a *BLIP*
in the headphones, and I was suddenly spinning slowly - UNDER the stadium!
Another time I was leading a race at Australia when I heard that *BLIP* and
I ended up *IN* the wall right past the S/F line.  I don't mean INTO the wall,
as in I _hit_ the wall, I mean I was __INSIDE__ the wall!  The front wheels
were in pit lane, the rear wheels were out on hte front straight, and I was
at least a hundred meters from the pit exit.  I didn't touch anything in either
case - the replay shows me crusing along in the middle of the road both
times, then the next frame shows me off in never-never land.  another time
I was practicing at Australia and I hit the wall in T6; I was teleported
all the way down the course and I ended up crashing into the wall at T12.
Even after I collected the car from the spin I still managed a 1:21 lap,
which is about 5 seconds faster than the Internet record :-)

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Graveltr

Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

by Graveltr » Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:00:00

No, it's definitely a bug.  Papyrus refuses to acknowledge it but they
have to know it's there.

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