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ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

bhoeni

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by bhoeni » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:43:00

After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9
driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new
flight sim (LOMAC).  Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has
worsened.  Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges
of the track kind of "shimmer".  It's very distracting.

So, if anyone her is is using the CAT 3.9 drivers with the same vidcard
as myself with GPL, I'd like to hear what settings (ATI and GPL) you run
GPL at and if you notice the same thing.

Or, if anyone has any suggestions to try to make the image improve, I'd
appreciate that as well.

Thanks.

Andre

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Andre » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:52:40

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH


>After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9
>driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new
>flight sim (LOMAC).  Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has
>worsened.  Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges
>of the track kind of "shimmer".  It's very distracting.

I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that
out.
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bhoeni

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by bhoeni » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:58:28

Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X
each.

> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH

> >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9
> >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new
> >flight sim (LOMAC).  Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has
> >worsened.  Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges
> >of the track kind of "shimmer".  It's very distracting.

> I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that
> out.
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Michael R Sisso

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Michael R Sisso » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 06:46:44



> Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X
> each.


> > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH

> > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9
> > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new
> > >flight sim (LOMAC).  Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has
> > >worsened.  Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges
> > >of the track kind of "shimmer".  It's very distracting.

> > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that
> > out.

There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work.

http://tinyurl.com/x4fx   (Rage3D message board thread on games that do
not work with AA)

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RUN

rms

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by rms » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:28:20

    Well that bites.  I haven't tried GPL lately, but FSAA worked fine with
GPL in earlier Cats.

rms

bhoeni

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by bhoeni » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:04:23

Well, that sucks.  Thanks for the info, though.

I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them).  I read somewhere that
3.8 had problems, as well.




> > Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at 4X
> > each.


> > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH

> > > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9
> > > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a new
> > > >flight sim (LOMAC).  Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has
> > > >worsened.  Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the edges
> > > >of the track kind of "shimmer".  It's very distracting.

> > > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that
> > > out.

> There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work.

> http://tinyurl.com/x4fx   (Rage3D message board thread on games that do
> not work with AA)

> --
> MRSisson

> LOAD "GPL",8,1
> RUN

Kevin Clar

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Kevin Clar » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:47:03


> Well, that sucks.  Thanks for the info, though.

> I guess that I'll try Cat 3.7 then (if I can find them).  I read somewhere that
> 3.8 had problems, as well.

I use the 3.8's with no problems at all.
Lawman_027

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Lawman_027 » Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:02:56

Try here:

http://www.driverheaven.net/downloads/index2.htm

Theyhave all the driver releases.

Dave

Glen Pittma

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Glen Pittma » Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:32:57

Or here www.guru3d.com


Mitch_

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Mitch_ » Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:46:36

You might try the Omega drivers Bert.
http://www.omegacorner.com/index_ati.html   You might send him an email
about your issue.


Marc Collin

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Marc Collin » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:17:43

The reason I won't switch to ATI despite the nice hardware design.  Half the
software on my system has one problem or another with ATI drivers...and it
rotates around each time a new driver is released.  nVIDIA just doesn't have
these problems for my software.

Marc





> > Thanks for the suggestion, but FSAA and AF are already both enables at
4X
> > each.


> > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:00 -0500, BRH

> > > >After holding out for some time, I just upgraded to the ATI Cat 3.9
> > > >driver for my Radeon 9700 Pro in order to maximize my framrates in a
new
> > > >flight sim (LOMAC).  Now it seems that the image quality in GPL has
> > > >worsened.  Although the framerate itself is fine, I find that the
edges
> > > >of the track kind of "shimmer".  It's very distracting.

> > > I don't play GPL, but I would imagine enabling FSAA&AF would sort that
> > > out.

> There is a known issue with the 3.9 Cats and GPL. FSAA does not work.

> http://tinyurl.com/x4fx   (Rage3D message board thread on games that do
> not work with AA)

> --
> MRSisson

> LOAD "GPL",8,1
> RUN

Mitch_

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by Mitch_ » Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:48:17

If you don't switch how would you know half of your software has issues?
Youre living in the past.  ATI drivers have been rock solid for a couple
years now and the Omega version just plain rocks.  If you like your Nvidia
(***imo) fine but don't start making stuff up (or continuing a false
rumor) about ATI to justify your decision.

Ive never been happier about any video card Ive owned than Ive been with my
9700P AIW.  It just plain does what it was advertised to do perfectly.  I
went from a GF2 to a GF3 and the performance difference was negligible.
Going from the GF3 to the 9700P was a real eye opener.  In hindsight I
should have just skipped the GF3.  Nvidia are the kings of marketing (better
known as BS) but end users that have actually used both cards know the real
deal.

Mitch


DB

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by DB » Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:57:03

Ditto Mitch,  the 9700pro was the best video card purchase I have
ever made, well except that dual SLI mode 3dfx setup in years past
was way cool :)


> If you don't switch how would you know half of your software has issues?
> Youre living in the past.  ATI drivers have been rock solid for a couple
> years now and the Omega version just plain rocks.  If you like your Nvidia
> (***imo) fine but don't start making stuff up (or continuing a false
> rumor) about ATI to justify your decision.

> Ive never been happier about any video card Ive owned than Ive been with
my
> 9700P AIW.  It just plain does what it was advertised to do perfectly.  I
> went from a GF2 to a GF3 and the performance difference was negligible.
> Going from the GF3 to the 9700P was a real eye opener.  In hindsight I
> should have just skipped the GF3.  Nvidia are the kings of marketing
(better
> known as BS) but end users that have actually used both cards know the
real
> deal.

> Mitch



> > The reason I won't switch to ATI despite the nice hardware design.  Half
> the
> > software on my system has one problem or another with ATI drivers...and
it
> > rotates around each time a new driver is released.  nVIDIA just doesn't
> have
> > these problems for my software.

> > Marc

MadDAW

ATI Cat 3.9 and GPL

by MadDAW » Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:05:59

Same here. I forgot just how good ATI looks.  FPS isn't the only thing that
matters.

MadDAWG


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