Here's some helpful advice for all the folks here who said Vilineuve
would never win the GP championship:
Take a crowbar, and jam it right in there into your mouth. You may
have to work it around a bit to get it by your foot. Once you have it
solidly in place get a friend to give a good push on on the bar, and
that should pry your foot right out of there.
You're welcome!
Joe
>Take a crowbar, and jam it right in there into your mouth. You may
>have to work it around a bit to get it by your foot. Once you have it
>solidly in place get a friend to give a good push on on the bar, and
>that should pry your foot right out of there.
Seriously, great drive by JV and I was delighted that he won - esp.
after I saw Schumi's blatant attempt to take him off. What a way to
show-off F1 to the world, nice going Mikey.
Cheers!
John
Could not agree more!
>Take a crowbar, etc
Jacques is good, but he made far too many mistakes under pressure at
Jerez to really be considered one of the greats. Think about Senna's
drive in 1988 from 14th place to first at Suzuka, or Schumacher's
impeccable drive at Aida in 1995. As for Rubens, he's pretty competent
but never exactly set the track on fire at Jordan did he? A lot of
Brazilian eyes turned to him as the new Senna, a heavy weight to
carry, but he's impressed only fleetingly.
Cheers!
John
(I hope you're not being serious....)
Gilles was a very talented driver, but "best driver ever"? Quite possibly
the best person at handling a car but the really great drivers such as
Fangio, Moss, Clark, Stewart, Lauda and Senna knew rather more about
driving to win than merely driving to be fast. Something Jacques seems to
have learned, incidentally.
Cheers,
Richard
Seriously, the only thing Schumi should have done, was to let Jacques run
with his rear-tyre over his front-tyre. This would have sent Jacques in the
air and would have left Schumi with a broken front-suspension, but with the
championship and nobody to blame........
Yes, yes, yes, I know I had 4 days to come up with this, but it's a good
one!
Cheers,
Harald (who hates Williams)
>>would have the skill advantage. He is the second best driver in F1
>>(Rubens Barrichello is always first). Jacques was born about 10mins
>>from my house, so here everyone is doing parties, stuff, enjoying all of
>>that moment (and drinking beer alot even if there's 50cm of snow
>>outside!!!).
>I think you must have drunk too much of that beer if you think Rubens
>and BabyJacques are the two best drivers in F1! Where would you rate
>Schumacher, third? <roaring with laughter>
> >would have the skill advantage. He is the second best driver in F1
> >(Rubens Barrichello is always first). Jacques was born about 10mins
> >from my house, so here everyone is doing parties, stuff, enjoying all of
> >that moment (and drinking beer alot even if there's 50cm of snow
> >outside!!!).
> I think you must have drunk too much of that beer if you think Rubens
> and BabyJacques are the two best drivers in F1! Where would you rate
> Schumacher, third? <roaring with laughter>
> Jacques is good, but he made far too many mistakes under pressure at
> Jerez to really be considered one of the greats.
> Cheers!
> John
As for Schumi, the in-car view of his "incident" with Jacques speaks
volumes. Sure he's a great driver, but he's also a terribly poor
sport. Payback for what he did to Damon in '94. The Nov. 11 FIA
hearing should prove interesting.
% True Jacques was the one who hit the side of MS's Ferrari
Aw, but Michael put it there. ;-)
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> >Not that I'm a Villeneuve fan (I'm not), but exactly what mistakes did
> >Jacques make at Jerez? I think he did an adequate job of bringing home
> >a wounded car for 3rd place and the '97 WC.
> How many times did you see Jacques stepping over the limit and running
> across the kerb onto the grass? That loses him time, and gets dirt all
> over his tires which loses more time. How mnay times did you see
> Michael do that?
And btw, did you know that Frank Williams during the race went to
McLaren's stand to talk with them ??? (Ah ha !) He actually said to
them to not mess up with Jacques during the last 20 laps of the race,
and to stay behind him. In exchange JV would let the two McLaren pass
by on the last lap. This is a fact prooven by each of the drivers (JV,
HHF, MH and DC). That's whay also you started to see Irvine at the end
of the race. He was getting closer and closer of them.
Without E.Irvine Schumi wouldn't have been anywhere near Jacques.
With great respect,
May the downforce be with you,
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
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>> >would have the skill advantage. He is the second best driver in F1
>> >(Rubens Barrichello is always first). Jacques was born about 10mins
>> >from my house, so here everyone is doing parties, stuff, enjoying all of
>> >that moment (and drinking beer alot even if there's 50cm of snow
>> >outside!!!).
>> I think you must have drunk too much of that beer if you think Rubens
>> and BabyJacques are the two best drivers in F1! Where would you rate
>> Schumacher, third? <roaring with laughter>
>> Jacques is good, but he made far too many mistakes under pressure at
>> Jerez to really be considered one of the greats.
>> Cheers!
>> John
>Not that I'm a Villeneuve fan (I'm not), but exactly what mistakes did
>Jacques make at Jerez? I think he did an adequate job of bringing home
>a wounded car for 3rd place and the '97 WC. He let the McLarens past by
>plan. Jacques' start was not too fantastic, but otherwise he drove a
>competent race.
>As for Schumi, the in-car view of his "incident" with Jacques speaks
>volumes. Sure he's a great driver, but he's also a terribly poor
>sport. Payback for what he did to Damon in '94. The Nov. 11 FIA
>hearing should prove interesting.
JV made a lot of mistakes all through the season, Jerez included (actually
Jerez was a reasonable race for him, and his passing move on MS (migod, another
MS, I never noticed that before) was good. Good enough in fact that it caught
MS out and he was unable to make an 'accidental' collision, instead coming out
with that late and blatant looking effort instead. From the in-car it looked
like he decided not to hit him then thought 'what have i got to lose': only the
admiration of the entire world Michael! As a life long Ferrari fan I'd just
like to say one thing - ***.
Anyway back to JV. He seemed to drive a whole lot better when under pressure.
When he should of won comfortably he usually fell off the track (as RBarricello
would put it). Also off the track he really didn't handle the pressure well at
all. DHill had the same problem season before. Up until that *** of a
manoevure MS outshine everyone else by a long way (actually DH impressed at
times).
I think having actually won will remove a lot of pressure from JV and we'll see
more of his natural talent next year. Remember he should have been untouchable
this year, but made so, so many mistakes.
Brian
Sorry, it was Patrick Head that went to speak to Ron Dennis, Frank's the
one in the wheelchair!!
regards
> >> >On Sun, 02 Nov 1997 01:54:33 -0500, Nanker Pheldge
> >> >>Not that I'm a Villeneuve fan (I'm not), but exactly what
> mistakes did
> >> >>Jacques make at Jerez? I think he did an adequate job of
> bringing home
> >> >>a wounded car for 3rd place and the '97 WC.
> >> >How many times did you see Jacques stepping over the limit and
> running
> >> >across the kerb onto the grass? That loses him time, and gets dirt
> all
> >> >over his tires which loses more time. How mnay times did you see
> >> >Michael do that?
> >> >Jacques drove superbly in the second half of the race, but the
> first
> >> >half was pretty sloppy. Without HHF Jacques wouldn't have been
> >> >anywhere near Michael.
> >> >Cheers!
> >> >John
> >> True Jacques was the one who hit the side of MS's Ferrari
> > Jaques hit who???? Open your eyes and watch the replay, which
> clearly
> shows
> >Schu hesitate and then upon Villeneuve entering the picture, turned
> hard
> >right thus Schu hit Jaques
> Watch the in car cam, the bonehead jumped the grass and hit the gap
> that was
> already closed. You think a guy will turn himself onto the grass after
> trying to hit someone
Check out any footage you can find of Ronnie Peterson. Different eras,
different cars but Peterson was just as adept as Gilles for pushing a car
beyond its limits.
Anyway, this is getting a little off-topic, so I'll shut up <g>
Cheers,
Richard
