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GP3 braking technique help

James Lars

GP3 braking technique help

by James Lars » Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:40:59

Does anybody have advice on how to brake fairly deep into a 2nd gear turn
without locking up the brakes?  The CC cars seem to be able to brake at 75
meters, but if I don't brake before 100 meters at most 2nd gear turns I'm going
to have to lock up  the brakes to make the turn.  Any advice or suggestions are
appreciated.  I have a LWFF (old type) wheel and pedals.  I realize they are
the greatest, but they aren't all that bad, either.
Sincerely, James
Txl

GP3 braking technique help

by Txl » Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:37:51

as in anything without ABS, start by braking HARD and as your speed
decreases so should your brake pressure, the car goes slower so you need
less energy (friction) to slow it down even further, if you keep on braking
as hard you'll lock the wheels....



Richard Becket

GP3 braking technique help

by Richard Becket » Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:36:31

I've got an MSFF with a squash ball underneath the brake pedal.

I hit the brakes really hard initially, then back off the tension in the
ball gradually as my speed reduces. For really slow corners I then back off
the ball a little too. In the wet I wear no shoes and simulate an ABS type
effect.

It's tricky, you'll need to get the brake calibration just right, and also
the brake balance from the setup. Experiment, and you'll find you can reduce
your braking distance quite a bit.

R.


> as in anything without ABS, start by braking HARD and as your speed
> decreases so should your brake pressure, the car goes slower so you need
> less energy (friction) to slow it down even further, if you keep on braking
> as hard you'll lock the wheels....



> > Does anybody have advice on how to brake fairly deep into a 2nd gear turn
> > without locking up the brakes?  The CC cars seem to be able to brake at 75
> > meters, but if I don't brake before 100 meters at most 2nd gear turns I'm
> going
> > to have to lock up  the brakes to make the turn.  Any advice or
> suggestions are
> > appreciated.  I have a LWFF (old type) wheel and pedals.  I realize they
> are
> > the greatest, but they aren't all that bad, either.
> > Sincerely, James

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Rafe McAulif

GP3 braking technique help

by Rafe McAulif » Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:26:04

It will also vary a LOT with the amount of downforce you're running.
At Hockenheim, I'll start at about 130-120m at the absolute latest,
running virtually no wing. If you've got a fair bit of wing on, you'll
have to reduce the braking a lot quicker as the downforce is reduced.

Rafe Mc

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:36:31 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Beckett"


>I've got an MSFF with a squash ball underneath the brake pedal.

>I hit the brakes really hard initially, then back off the tension in the
>ball gradually as my speed reduces. For really slow corners I then back off
>the ball a little too. In the wet I wear no shoes and simulate an ABS type
>effect.

>It's tricky, you'll need to get the brake calibration just right, and also
>the brake balance from the setup. Experiment, and you'll find you can reduce
>your braking distance quite a bit.

>R.



>> as in anything without ABS, start by braking HARD and as your speed
>> decreases so should your brake pressure, the car goes slower so you need
>> less energy (friction) to slow it down even further, if you keep on braking
>> as hard you'll lock the wheels....



>> > Does anybody have advice on how to brake fairly deep into a 2nd gear turn
>> > without locking up the brakes?  The CC cars seem to be able to brake at 75
>> > meters, but if I don't brake before 100 meters at most 2nd gear turns I'm
>> going
>> > to have to lock up  the brakes to make the turn.  Any advice or
>> suggestions are
>> > appreciated.  I have a LWFF (old type) wheel and pedals.  I realize they
>> are
>> > the greatest, but they aren't all that bad, either.
>> > Sincerely, James


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