rec.autos.simulators

Let us briefly rewind to about last September/October time soon after I
had seen posts on the D3 private forum (frequented at that time by
about 50 to 60 D3 members and a few ghosters) from users who were
openly asking for serial crack information directly from Bill Tillman
(D3 head honcho) in a post on said forum. I saved a copy of these posts
at the time as evidence.

I then made a post on the D3 forum about the possibility of some kind
of developer union forming in the longer run due to the increasing
proliferation of developer staff abuses and standards of living etc. I
didn't suggest that I would be forming a union or anything like that,
but apparently the word union in the US is something of a taboo word
thanks to history and prohibition. See also mafia etc. Well I didn't
know this, but here in the UK unions generally represent workers in
given speciality fields and services etc, such as engineers,
housbuilders, train workers, actors & actresses, artists and so on. The
majority of these UK unions were formed in response to a requirement
for proportional government representation of said skilled people. So I
was kind of hinting in a fairly general way that basically we didn't
want that nescessarily, but that it could happen if the devalued work
of various skilled workers in the games developer field were to be
propogated by unscrupilous developer company bosses.

I made the post quite innocently but trying to be topical. Although I
did make this post a matter of days after I had openly voiced to D3
boss Bill Tillman that I was very concerned about D3's apparent lack of
foresight, and by that I mean in failing to provide legitimate software
for team members who may need it, and thier lack of provision or
information to the entire team on the various legal aspects and
obligations of employers and employees in the respective field of games
development and software responsibility. Most of this was largely
ignored by the developer group leaders (specifically Bill Tillman) as
far as I could tell, but it did lead at the time to a certain Elizabeth
Kron making a post in response to mine, and frankly you need to read it
to believe what she wrote.

Anyway, about two weeks ago now and some four plus months after having
been banned from RSC (arranged according to reliable sources at the
time by Bill Tillman) I finally asked John Schoen, and Exar Kuhn (both
RSC moderators) that I would like to have my Janimox identity
un-banned. Because D3 had a major rift with the iDT team splitting and
effectively re-forming as they were, along with various other members
leaving. Pierre Pelonero no less came to me in MSN about five weeks ago
and apologised for his behavior toward me throughout the brief ordeal.
Respectfully, I found this an honourable and un selfish turn around so
It was in light of this that I had come to finally ask for an identity
of mine to be re-instated at RSC. I also asked for an apology from RSC,
because despite how outspoken I may have been back in September on RSC,
I was right all along, not sitrring trouble for the sake of stirring
trouble at all. And I mean I have the evidence saved to this day....
And so on, I was bang on correct about the software situation. Right
about the distinctively illegal nature of the business as it was being
conducted, and right about Bill Tillman effectively misleading people
intentionally to his own (and D3's) gain.

I also PM'd Elizabeth Kron for an un-conditional apology for her
meddling.
Here are the direct cut and paste copies of the exchanges between me
and Elizabeth, me and John Schoen and me and Exar Kuhn yesterday and
this morning.
Sent by me aka JMGraphics, to Liz -

I think you owe someone an apology

Sent to me from Liz -

I have no idea what you are talking about or who you are? If you think
I need to apologize to someone, maybe you could tell me who and why?

--EKron

2nd try on message...1st one bombed out. If you received two, then I
apologize to you.

My reply (I understood and respected her perhaps not recognizing my
initials, fair enough) -

Janimox. The gentleman who you openly tore to shreds on the D3 forums,
and who, subsequently you pretty much roasted in MSN.

I have been a perfectly legitimate user of 3ds Max for some time. I was
very upset and belittled in front of the entire forum membership by
you. I still have the saved post. I am asking, as politely as I can
(given the situation as it was) for a simple and un-conditional
apology.

Perhaps things can begin to be put to rights between us once again, but
only if you wish it.

Regards,

Jan Mathiesen.

Her reply -

You've got to be f**king kidding me?

Dude, get some help, please. If it makes you feel better and get on
with life, I'm sorry.

Feel better now? (don't bother answering that)

--EK

...

Elizabeth is fifty plus years old. Quite the adult no ?
Ok, so lets move on. I haven't and will not reply to her again and
obviously she has little or no respect for me so I am done as far as
she is concerned. On the RSC and my PM's to moderators asking for my
identity Janimox to be re-instated and asking for an un-conditional
apology from RSC.

Me to Exar Kuhn -

I am asking as politely as possible I believe for the identity Janimox
to be un-banned. Member since 2001.

I've recently (since September 05) been lied to, treated like a fool
and generally abused (with regard to D3) to the point where I feel that
RSC owes me an apology, as well as the people within D3 who treated me
like a trouble maker. Where all along I was perfectly within my rights,
and also actually correct about certain issues despite certain D3 top
brass trying very hard to have me swept conveniently under the carpet.
As for D3 I do not personally care whether they succeed or do not.
Pierre Pelonero will testify to my character as someone who you can in
fact trust implicitly.

What IS important to me is that my identity Janimox be given back to me
please. I expressly ask that you do not consult with Bill Tillman over
this matter as he is the main cause of all the problems for D3 and RSC.
Whether you are aware of that or not.

When Janimox is un banned I will ask for this account to be deleted or
rendered void.

Kind thanks for your trouble.

Jan.

Exar back to me -

What happened to asking politely? For your information I was busy last
night - I received your PM and left it for the other admins to consider
whilst I wrapped up some business and got some sleep (how dare I do
such selfish thing!!).

The majority opinion that was reached overnight was to let you back in.
However, given your attitude issue and lack of patience we are banning
this account and will reconsider letting you in in one week's time.
Having dual accounts or starting a new account after being banned is
against the rules and you already have other admin's email addresses
(as you showed above) so there is no need for this account.

Do not bother sending further emails - we will remember to have a look
at your situation in one week's time and pestering us further is not
likely to improve your situation.

Regards

EK

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I have not replied to this, however I think it is clear by now that RSC
is not a happy camp and most certainly lacks any un-biased form of
inter communication between staff. Or that what IS communicated between
staff is not the truth. Or again that people who make decisions and
effect bans are neither trained nor capable of professional conduct
becoming of such a position in a forum frequented by apparently so many
members. This is just my opinion though.

I am well beyond caring about any of the individuals involved in these
troubled times, and the way that RSC perpetuates underhand activity by
making no real effort to guard against intellectual property rights
theft, illegal duplication of assets, and latterly as far as I can tell
of late, scant control over content removal. Witness first hand the
reasoning that posts and threads are never removed as arguments about
who said what in a locked thread are rendered irrelevant when evidence
is locked up and visible. I contest that if the moderators had a degree
of responsibility and duty, that potentially illegal or copyright
infringing thread content removed entirely would mean that there is no
partial argument, no half answer. That a thread is deleted leaves no
trace of responsibility or liability in the event of any potential
legal transgressions.

I stress to the developer world not to take RSC seriously in it's
current state. Not to take up any offers of commercial type work via
RSC without thorough consultation with an independant advisor of repute
and industry experience (if you do not know such an individual or
company, definately find one), not to regard the actions of simply
locking a thread as a perticularly honourable and dependable way of
looking after the affairs of it's user members, and lastly, not regard
moderators, representatives, employees of RSC as remotely professional
any particular way.

Without bias.

Alanb

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Somehow I thought it was longer than this.  :)

Alanb

You may have very good points that are worthy of discussion, but if
this sort of public disclosure of privately discussed matters is
typical behavior of yours, I'm not suprised you've been banned from
anywhere.  If you were involved with me on a project and pulled this
kind of thing, sharing personal emails between you and me on stuff that
is nobody else's business and lambasting me and other developers on the
project publically during and afterwards,  I'd break off all contact in
a heartbeat too. <shrug>  If I did it I'd get sued.  You got off easy.

Developers need to be careful who they talk to and what they say.  Your
post is a shining example of why.  Nothing personal, but you probably
got what you deserved there, boss.

Take care,
Todd Wasson

Oh yes, absolutely I got what I deserved as far that goes. If I had
been leading this lot I'd probably have done the same if the situation
were identical, however and with respect I saw it coming the day I
realised I was being undercut by other members using warez. And,
personally I have a far more detailed, professional and accomodating
software policy for my own practise than these upstarts.

Best to remember a golden rule, that being that where common respect
and decency is lost for whatever reason, all one has left is an
account. If also by your intimation Tood that such an account reflects
acceptable practise in a studio or group for example, then I would be
the first person to warn others about your practise (if you had treated
me the same!) and I defy anyone to actually sit there, take it, and do
or say nothing. This goes well beyond merely my account though. It is
somewhat reflective of todays world and practises at large. One other
thing I should mention is that I was more or less the only individual
willing to stand up and say anything at all, plus the reason I can
assure you I have been chased legally is because everything is backed
up by saved records, saved files and saved communications. There is
good in this story, in that I pray it helps others considering this
industry as a career on what not to say and/or do. Even if that
includes making a post like this at some point. As well. Avoid it and
read this, which alas will be gone in a matter of weeks anyway which
imho renders your opinion about as important as mine sir.

Lastly, and most importantly I am NOT in the habit of breaking NDA's
where they exist, nor breaking personal trusts. In this case no NDA was
in effect, and there was scant personal trust. So Todd sir, you can
take it from me that A: I won't be making a post like this again. B: I
would'nt put myself in such a position again with a newly formed
developer group that has no set values. I take great pride in my work,
huge satisfaction from my peers and to top it off, I am not in the
business of fooling or lying to others to make money. I may therefore
be broke, but I can assure you my friend, my conscience is 100% intact,
and that to me is far more important.

Cheers.

I say, let em try and get ***-money, take them to court if you ask me, the
end would be worth it.  there is a whole society level of corruption we need
to get rid of, grass roots style, one at a time, we have to, at least until
a precedent is set.

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