rec.autos.simulators

I see that there's a lot of hype on here about the Indy track for IC II and
even still some about the Daytona track for NC.  

To be honest,  not only don't I care about the two tracks as a whole,  (I
don't think either one is worth the trouble to have)  I would never again
consider going to either of the two for a live event, just because the
management has been so arrogant and stingy with the very idea of a racing
sim having THEIR track in the game for people to enjoy.  I get to  1-3
nascar events each year and I can say that if I was given round trip fare
and free admission to Daytona, I would'nt go just because of what they did
to the guys at The Pits (theuspits.com)  Thats BS and I don't think I'm
alone in being disgusted with the 1st grade mentality of the management at
daytona for it.  I guess the owners of Talladega, Pocono, Rockingham,
Dover, The Glen, Sears Point, Elkhart lake, Laguna Seca... and all are REAL
PEOPLE like us who want to promote their sport instead of their sport to
promote them!  Why is it that those two tracks are so much better than the
others.  (Certainly not cause there more fun to watch OR drive)  Personaly,
I don't like Indy...

Oh well, to each there own.  I'll have just as much fun with
NC/NCii/ICRii/GPii without the brickyard or daytona.  I like new tracks!

PS.  GPii has ALL the Tracks and ALL the Drivers with no copyright
problems.  Guess the F1 guys want people to enjoy the game more than the
Nascar/Indycar People.  Even if there is a frame rate problem.

People want these for season racing.  I agree that they are not the best
tracks.  If C***te or Dover were missing - the NASCAR sim fans would be
upset too.  I think the owners of these tracks are unique.  Just look at
the problems with the Indy car split - all caused by the Indianapolis track
owners.  Sim fans are always searching for more tracks too.  Even if the
tracks weren't Indy or Daytona - any new tracks would be well received.
Las Vegas and Texas, for example.  Maybe eveb the Suzuka track.

/THansen

It's been said here many times: International Speedway Corporation, the
company that owns Daytona, licensed the game rights exclusively to Sega
before there was ever a NASCAR simulation. The license expires early next
year, and I can assure you that Papyrus is doing everything in their power
to get the rights to use the track.

As to IMS, well... that's Tony George, and I'd just as soon not open that
can of worms here. <g>

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

By the GP 2 doesn"t have all the F1 tracks just off the top of my head
theres no Mexico City no Nurburgring no Detroit no surfers paradice no S.
Africa And probably 2 or 3 in Europe I forgot. Just my 2 cents

Ichiban L.A. Sake Otokonoko.

Jack Out And Jack In.

We rule the future people.

I think he ment all the CURRENT F1 tracks!
Mexico City has'nt been used for F1 racing since 91 i think,
and to my knowledge, there's never been a F1 race at Surfers Paradise!!

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Best Racing Regards,
Edwin Solheim

To finnish 1st - 1st u have to finnish

Because the owners of the track won't let Papyrus use it?

It that's true, they're pinheads, sheez...  

I find it nice to be able to watch a race on the tube with a friend, and then
let him try the track in an indycar, or a nascar.  Papyrus makes great sims, and
having bought them makes me even more of a fan of the races.   I have a whole
new appreciation for what the drivers do, and are capable of.

Perhaps I need another beer, but I simply can't think of one good reason why a
track owner would NOT allow a racing sim to use their track.  

Curt

Richard