rec.autos.simulators

by **Colin Re** » Sat, 18 May 2002 00:34:51

Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it
rocks, enjoy people ...

Colin

by **Gregor Vebl** » Sat, 18 May 2002 00:58:10

Hey Colin,

you should be working on the sim instead of wasting your time on such
trivial things!

(says Gregor who is jealous as the films here in Italy are dubbed and he
can't quite understand them yet ;) )

-Gregor

by **redTe** » Sat, 18 May 2002 04:58:40

Is Jar-Jar ***s in it again ? If so, count me out.
CGI muppets = shit

by **Stuart Becktel** » Sat, 18 May 2002 06:55:12

He is in the movie, for only a tiny bit, but he is a lot better this time,
also Yoda is a CGI muppet, but he RULES, so your equation is wrong.
-Stuart Becktell

> > Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it
> > rocks, enjoy people ...

> Is Jar-Jar ***s in it again ? If so, count me out.
> CGI muppets = shit

by **Frod** » Sat, 18 May 2002 07:59:35

Indeed. I made this note to some friends before reviews started coming
out saying the same. Yoda and some of the other CGI characters
outperform the actors when it comes to... acting. How's that for
underachieving.

--
Frode

by **Rob Adam** » Sat, 18 May 2002 08:13:27

Every character on the screen - CGI or not - is the result of human
creativity. They based Yoda on the original puppet, which was operated by a
Person. They probably used some People to flesh out some of his ***
expressions. Then the character was animated on a computer operated by a
Person. Then the voice (a Person's voice) was used to make him speak. (And
of course the CGI software was written by People).

All this chest-beating about how CGI is going to replace people is just
crap. The computer is just the TOOL. ALL the creativity behind the CGI
character is completely human, and will be for the foreseeable future. I'm
sure a lot of actors who rely purely on appearance are feeling threatened
right now, but the ones with creativity and talent will just expand into
this new arena.

by **ymenar** » Sat, 18 May 2002 08:29:45

> Is Jar-Jar ***s in it again ? If so, count me out.
> CGI muppets = shit

How can a CGI be a moppets?

<yawn>

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by **David L. Coo** » Sat, 18 May 2002 09:01:45

Takin' my boys tomorrow night. Can't wait!

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 18 May 2002 14:36:21

> > Is Jar-Jar ***s in it again ? If so, count me out.
> > CGI muppets = shit

> How can a CGI be a moppets?

> <yawn>

They style the cgi to maintain the 'look' of the old foam ***
muppets...So they don't suddenly have a yoda with fully aticulated lips
etcs..he still has the sense of the puppet motions...or so I've been
told...won't get a chance to see it for a few days...
dave henrie

by **Milhous** » Sat, 18 May 2002 17:12:24

And what a tool it is. Is there really any other way you could have Yoda
move around like he did before this one?

It's just soooo awesome, lol...and then he picks right back up with the fake
limp, lol...

Milhouse

by **Simon Goodwi** » Sat, 18 May 2002 23:45:24

Rocks? I've never seen such a pile of shit. Two and a half hours of
absolute drudgery with embarrassing dialogue, a chemistry-less ***
love interest and a new and ridiculous cast of muppets. I couldn't
wait for it to end. I would have walked out, but I didn't want to
offend my friends who had bought my ticket (though I did anyway by
telling them what I thought). 'Clones' is to action/sci-fi what
'Rocket Robin Hood' was to animation...

I'm beginning to think that this generation of TV/filmgoers is simply
incapabale of distinguising between quality and nonsene anymore. When
I went to opening night of 'Star Wars' in '77, the whole audience was
buzzing and the atmosphere was electric. When they blew the Death
Star a roar went up from the crowd and the noise and e***ment
leaving the theatre was incredible. Leaving the opening of 'Clones'
last night was like filing out of a wake. If you get a chance to see
this picture, for God's sake don't do it.

Simon

by **Mike Blackmor** » Sun, 19 May 2002 00:33:28

On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:45:24 -0400, "Simon Goodwin"

When

Could it have been that YOU have changed in the interveaning 25 years?
And that your average 7 to 15 year old boy nowadays will think this is
great?
I like StarWars to take me back to being 8 and not expect it to aim
itself at the 32 year old me.

Regards Mike

by **Andre Warring** » Sun, 19 May 2002 03:55:56

On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:45:24 -0400, "Simon Goodwin"

>Rocks? I've never seen such a pile of shit. Two and a half hours of
>absolute drudgery with embarrassing dialogue, a chemistry-less ***

Hmm... I read a couple of reviews now and most of them were quite
positive, especially when comparing E2 to the disgracefull E1..
Anyway, to get you in a better mood again, download and watch this one
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Andre

by **Frod** » Sun, 19 May 2002 06:08:21

> On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:45:24 -0400, "Simon Goodwin"

> >Rocks? I've never seen such a pile of shit. Two and a half hours of
> >absolute drudgery with embarrassing dialogue, a chemistry-less ***
> Hmm... I read a couple of reviews now and most of them were quite
> positive, especially when comparing E2 to the disgracefull E1..

The reviews I've seen so far have been about 60% "geez, utter crap,
Lucas should retire", 20% "well... It's better than ep1, but it's still
mediocre at best" and the last 20% "Redeems the SW saga! Finally
the prequel ep1 should have been!".

I fall into the first 20% there, btw (not that I'm a reviewer).

--
Frode

by **Ashley McConnel** » Sun, 19 May 2002 08:58:50

ITS AWESOME :)

Ash

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