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Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

Jo

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Jo » Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Has anyone else tried to pull a "Rockford" in GPL? That's the old
stunt where you get going fast in reverse (to about 50-60 mph), shift
into neutral, turn, and touch the brakes (all simultaneously), switch
up to second gear while you do a half spin, catch the car on the other
side and continue in the forward direction. You never fall below 35-40
mph during the whole manuever. We used to call this a "Rockford"
because James Garner used to often do it in his TV show.

Anyway, it looks very cool, and this is the first sim realistic enough
to allow you to do it. I have a small (20K) replay of it if anyone
wants to see a demonstration, or I can post it here if there's any
interest. Might be kind of fun to start an online "Rockford Race"
sometime where everyone has to turn around before the green flag and
start backwards!

Joe

Martin Urs

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Martin Urs » Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>Has anyone else tried to pull a "Rockford" in GPL? That's the old
>stunt where you get going fast in reverse (to about 50-60 mph), shift
>into neutral, turn, and touch the brakes (all simultaneously), switch
>up to second gear while you do a half spin, catch the car on the other
>side and continue in the forward direction. You never fall below 35-40
>mph during the whole manuever. We used to call this a "Rockford"
>because James Garner used to often do it in his TV show.

>Anyway, it looks very cool, and this is the first sim realistic enough
>to allow you to do it. I have a small (20K) replay of it if anyone
>wants to see a demonstration, or I can post it here if there's any
>interest. Might be kind of fun to start an online "Rockford Race"
>sometime where everyone has to turn around before the green flag and
>start backwards!

        I'm pretty sure that the "Rockford" was possible on sims as
old as the original NASCAR Racing.  Still, it's nice to try it on any
simulated car you can get a hold of!

        Now if only I can get the Lotus to corner on two wheels...

Martin
Nigel Mansell RIP!

Stephen Ferguso

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Stephen Ferguso » Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:00



I never had a problem doing this in NFS-SE.

Marc Collin

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Marc Collin » Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:00

In real life it is a heck of a lot easier to do in a front-engined car...
It's pretty easy in GPL to do the 180 the other way--where you end up going
backwards--but of course it requires something to trip up the rear wheels.

Marc.


>Has anyone else tried to pull a "Rockford" in GPL? That's the old
>stunt where you get going fast in reverse (to about 50-60 mph), shift
>into neutral, turn, and touch the brakes (all simultaneously), switch
>up to second gear while you do a half spin, catch the car on the other
>side and continue in the forward direction. You never fall below 35-40
>mph during the whole manuever. We used to call this a "Rockford"
>because James Garner used to often do it in his TV show.

>Anyway, it looks very cool, and this is the first sim realistic enough
>to allow you to do it. I have a small (20K) replay of it if anyone
>wants to see a demonstration, or I can post it here if there's any
>interest. Might be kind of fun to start an online "Rockford Race"
>sometime where everyone has to turn around before the green flag and
>start backwards!

>Joe

T.Galvi

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by T.Galvi » Thu, 22 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> I'm pretty sure that the "Rockford" was possible on sims as
>old as the original NASCAR Racing.  Still, it's nice to try it on any
>simulated car you can get a hold of!

> Now if only I can get the Lotus to corner on two wheels...

>Martin
>Nigel Mansell RIP!

 Ive got the Lotus on two wheels around the corner at the end of the long
straight at Nurburgring. I even felt the steering suddenly pull to the right
when the left side left the ground.
Wolfgang Prei

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Wolfgang Prei » Thu, 22 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>Has anyone else tried to pull a "Rockford" in GPL? That's the old
>stunt where you get going fast in reverse (to about 50-60 mph), shift
>into neutral, turn, and touch the brakes (all simultaneously), switch
>up to second gear while you do a half spin, catch the car on the other
>side and continue in the forward direction. You never fall below 35-40
>mph during the whole manuever. We used to call this a "Rockford"
>because James Garner used to often do it in his TV show.

I tried to do this quite often ("getting the car back to point in the
right direction" necessarily is one of my standard maneuvers in GPL ;)
but I rarely manage to shift gears quickly enough to avoid slowing
down or even stopping.

Problem is the game would probably disqualify everyone for driving in
the wrong direction... Now, I'd like to see a sim allowing "Le Mans"
starts. Kind of "run&jump&drive". I can see it now:
ctrl-alt-ctrl-alt-ctrl-alt-shift-i- and off you go. :)

--
Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.


meij

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by meij » Thu, 22 Oct 1998 04:00:00



> Ive got the Lotus on two wheels around the corner at the end of the long
>straight at Nurburgring. I even felt the steering suddenly pull to the right
>when the left side left the ground.

I can do this too. Usually it involves *** a corner or two off on a
wall tho :)
Peter Gag

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Peter Gag » Thu, 22 Oct 1998 04:00:00



>  this is the first sim realistic enough
> to allow you to do it.

Try doing it in TOCA.....and I'm sure there are others too?

8-)

*Peter*    8-)
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Martin Urs

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Martin Urs » Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:00:00

On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:30:43 +0800, "T.Galvin"


> Ive got the Lotus on two wheels around the corner at the end of the long
>straight at Nurburgring. I even felt the steering suddenly pull to the right
>when the left side left the ground.

        Wow!  What was your setup like when you pulled this off?  

        I'm guessing the rise at the end of the straight helped you a
bit, or was it really just the sheer force of cornering that tipped
you over?

Martin
Nigel Mansell RIP!

Grant Reev

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Grant Reev » Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:00:00


> On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:30:43 +0800, "T.Galvin"

> > Ive got the Lotus on two wheels around the corner at the end of the long
> >straight at Nurburgring. I even felt the steering suddenly pull to the right
> >when the left side left the ground.

>         Wow!  What was your setup like when you pulled this off?

>         I'm guessing the rise at the end of the straight helped you a
> bit, or was it really just the sheer force of cornering that tipped
> you over?

i suspect it's a combination of physical events that get the car
on two wheels at that turn - i've seen my car on two wheels there
myself when i watch replays:) although the rear wheels are only like
a couple of inches off the ground, nothing tooo exciting (except
that you're at 280kph!).
The little rise leading up to the bridge gets the car slightly
airborne at that sort of full speed, but as you are turning your
front wheels to the left at the same time, the act of forcably
changing the rotational axis of the front wheels via turning means
that the difference in rotational momentum on the front wheels is
fed into the chassis, and for turning left that rotates the car
to the right, bringing the right wheels down to touch the ground
while the left wheels are still in the air... all fun stuff really,
and it shows off the coolness of Papy's physics modelling:)
Micro Graphi

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Micro Graphi » Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:00:00


says...

I don't know about doing a Rockford ..... as I'm not that good.
I do know how to do a Starsky and Hutch ....... that is going sideways
into the gutter.

I think I'll call it a "Turkey Breath".

Oh those were the days!!!!!

Eldred Picke

Silly GPL tricks... pulling a "Rockford"

by Eldred Picke » Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Yep, I tried it at Monza.  I figured it would help my car control abilities...
I was pretty PLEASED with myself, too. :)


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