Screenshot up at west racing

by **Tim Epstei** » Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:12:11

My concern is not with the functionality per se, which as you imply is the
same as any other *** server. My concern is with the ability of small
development team to be able to perform a thourough security risk analysis
during the development process.

> On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:08:16 +0100, "Tim Epstein"

> >One particular concern of mine is online security. Worst case is if
online
> >play will be peer to peer server based. If you are hosting, then you are
> >effectively running an Internet Server on your computer, with open ports
to
> >the Internet. Will someone be able take over your computer using a
buffer
> >overflow in the software? Even a client for online play can pose a
security
> >threat.

> How does this differ from any other *** server?

> Jason

by **Douglas Elliso** » Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:36:22

No - TIR Is new from the ground up also

WSC is owned by empire, and is basically being sat on by them

Doug

by **Schoone** » Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:43:31

Well you can use canned direct play code and pretty much be done with our
major effort.

> My concern is not with the functionality per se, which as you imply is the
> same as any other *** server. My concern is with the ability of small
> development team to be able to perform a thourough security risk analysis
> during the development process.

> > On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:08:16 +0100, "Tim Epstein"

> > >One particular concern of mine is online security. Worst case is if
> online
> > >play will be peer to peer server based. If you are hosting, then you
are
> > >effectively running an Internet Server on your computer, with open
ports
> to
> > >the Internet. Will someone be able take over your computer using a
> buffer
> > >overflow in the software? Even a client for online play can pose a
> security
> > >threat.

> > How does this differ from any other *** server?

> > Jason

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:50:20

"Douglas Ellison"
Yes and no. THe code for TIR is new, but the licensed products, the
cars, the tracks, the sponsors, the signage, are all taken from the WSC
license contracts.
dave henrie
(my Xfile mentality thinks this may have been the plan all along. Buy a
work in progress, then slap your own code underneath after the WSC legal
team did all the work.)

by **jason moy** » Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:16:58

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:12:11 +0100, "Tim Epstein"

>My concern is not with the functionality per se, which as you imply is the
>same as any other *** server. My concern is with the ability of small
>development team to be able to perform a thourough security risk analysis
>during the development process.

Gotcha.

My hope would be that the server app is released as either source code
or as binaries for linux/freebsd/solaris and that it binds to a high
port, both of which I'd think are likely (IIRC they've indicated there
will be a linux server app, dunno if it will be a binary or source -
I'd prefer the latter).. That way you can just run it as an
unpriveliged user, which immediately eliminates most of the security
concern, at least on the server side.

My biggest concern with the net code really is efficiency. Papy's
28.8 friendly model wasn't built in a day.

Jason

by **Eldre** » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:07:37

writes:

Wait - wouldn't Empire own the licenses, cars, etc. since they still own WSC?
It seems pretty dumb that they would negotiate all that, but give it away...

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by **Dave Henri** » Wed, 14 Aug 2002 22:38:09

they didn't give it away...Empire is the publisher of Total Immersion
Racing aren't they?? They got all the legal work done for WSC, and then
when the West's couldn't/wouldn't deliver an arcade title, they took all the
tracks, the cars, etc and slammed them into TIR.
dave henrie

by **jason moy** » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:16:19

I hope they at least bought them dinner first! And possibly a
tasteful movie, a romantic comedy maybe.

Jason

by **Doug Elliso** » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:48:37

they took all the

The used the licenses they'd negociated - but not the models made by w-r

Doug

by **Eldre** » Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:40:14

Sorry - I read the original *** theory wrong.
<insert Emily Litella voice>
Nevermind...

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by **elrik** » Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:06:41

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LOL :O)

Elrikk