New Ferrari Wheel In October

Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 David G Fisher

Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. DC David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]...

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> Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > David G Fisher > >

What's wrong with the pedals? "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]...

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> Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > DC > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > >

Look at 'em: SOSO! "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]...

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> What's wrong with the pedals? > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > DC > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > >

Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 David G Fisher "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]...

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> Look at 'em: SOSO! > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

There's nothing wrong with the pedals. They're as good as any that are included with the popular FF wheels. The gas spring is a little stiff on the current TM Ferrari, but that can be fixed and any sim racer is hopefully bracing the pedals and elevating the front to get a comfortable angle. I can't remember the name of the company that's making this wheel. Maybe I could spend a few hours to look it up, but they also market it under their own name as well as AVB, Guest (in the UK), TM and several others. Most of this new wheel looks like the previous TM Ferrari. Same case but without the shifter (TM was the only one with this this option anyway). Pedals look almost the same. I assume (and hope) the electronics are the same because it is a very nice, precision wheel. So, if they've taken the current TM Ferrari and added ball bearings and steel shafts, that's even better. Then it looks like they've changed the shifting paddles from plastic to metal. This was the weak point on the current wheel. Personally, I prefer a GT style wheel, but F1 style one they put on does look good and this new setup from TM could be really something. Unless they've done something to really screw this up, I can see this being the wheel of choice for most sim racers, except Larry, who loves his MSFF ;) -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > DC > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > >

David, Does this look like a pair of ECCI pedals to you? Or TSWs? Or BRDs? Or even ACT Labs? To me they look like a typical pair of TM pedals: too close together, too short a crank arm, too small a base, probably too soft a spring, and probably made out of thin, highly frangible plastic. Next.... --Steve "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]...

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> Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > David G Fisher > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:al7nn3$1o580f$[email hidden]... > There's nothing wrong with the pedals. They're as good as any that are > included with the popular FF wheels. The gas spring is a little stiff onthe > current TM Ferrari, but that can be fixed and any sim racer is hopefully > bracing the pedals and elevating the front to get a comfortable angle. I have a TM Ferrari, and I love it (awesome force feedback). My only complaint is the gas pedal being a bit too stiff for my taste. You said this could be fixed, any suggestions on how I'd do this? Thanks! Fatbob

I always get worried when they don't show the pedals :( -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]...

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> Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > David G Fisher > >

I'll have to see them in person. From the picture, they _may_ be a bit to much "Tractor" style, like the MoMo's. -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]...

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> Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > David G Fisher > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'll have to see them in person. From the picture, they _may_ be a bit to much "Tractor" style, like the MoMo's. -Larry

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> Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > David G Fisher > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > DC > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > David G Fisher

Personally, I think the MSFFW has the best consumer grade pedals on the market. -Larry "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:al7nn3$1o580f$[email hidden]... > There's nothing wrong with the pedals. They're as good as any that are > included with the popular FF wheels. The gas spring is a little stiff onthe

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> current TM Ferrari, but that can be fixed and any sim racer is hopefully > bracing the pedals and elevating the front to get a comfortable angle. > > I can't remember the name of the company that's making this wheel. Maybe I > could spend a few hours to look it up, but they also market it under their > own name as well as AVB, Guest (in the UK), TM and several others. Most of > this new wheel looks like the previous TM Ferrari. Same case but without

the > shifter (TM was the only one with this this option anyway). Pedals look > almost the same. I assume (and hope) the electronics are the same becauseit > is a very nice, precision wheel. So, if they've taken the current TMFerrari > and added ball bearings and steel shafts, that's even better. Then itlooks > like they've changed the shifting paddles from plastic to metal. This was > the weak point on the current wheel. Personally, I prefer a GT stylewheel, > but F1 style one they put on does look good and this new setup from TMcould > be really something. Unless they've done something to really screw thisup, > I can see this being the wheel of choice for most sim racers, exceptLarry,

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> who loves his MSFF ;) > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The MSFFW sure can be improved upon. The only problem is no one has done it yet. I agree the Momo wheel is a better part (at leaset when it's new), but MS still owns the crown when it comes to the pedals. They'll probably screw that up in the next round :) -Larry "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:al7nn3$1o580f$[email hidden]... > I can see this being the wheel of choice for most sim racers, exceptLarry, > who loves his MSFF ;) > > > -- > Slot >

Found em'. I'll have to see in person. Not impressed at first sight, though. They look 'Tractorish" like the Momo pedals. -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FyNd9.43510$[email hidden]...

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> I always get worried when they don't show the pedals :( > > -Larry > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > >

I had a feeling you were somehow comparing this wheel to wheels which cost sooooo much more. When those other wheels have ff and cost the same as the Ferrari, let me know. Btw, the pedals are made out of aluminum, not plastic. David G Fisher . "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:w2Ld9.195780$[email hidden]... > David, > > Does this look like a pair of ECCI pedals to you? Or TSWs? Or BRDs? Or > even ACT Labs? To me they look like a typical pair of TM pedals: tooclose

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> together, too short a crank arm, too small a base, probably too soft a > spring, and probably made out of thin, highly frangible plastic. Next.... > > --Steve > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... > > Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I think only the pedal covers/pads are aluminium, the arms appear to be plastic. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VHOd9.444319$[email hidden]...

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> I had a feeling you were somehow comparing this wheel to wheels which cost > sooooo much more. When those other wheels have ff and cost the same as the > Ferrari, let me know. > > Btw, the pedals are made out of aluminum, not plastic. > > David G Fisher > > . > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:w2Ld9.195780$[email hidden]... > > David, > > > > Does this look like a pair of ECCI pedals to you? Or TSWs? Or BRDs?

Or > > even ACT Labs? To me they look like a typical pair of TM pedals: too > close > > together, too short a crank arm, too small a base, probably too soft a > > spring, and probably made out of thin, highly frangible plastic.Next....

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> > > > --Steve > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... > > > Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

David F...I did not see the pedals in the original pic. I was only hoping out loud for some quality pedals. I would like to see them in person. Interesting Slot... your thoughts...thanks for your contributions as always. DC Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lbOd9.43750$[email hidden]...

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> Found em'. > > > I'll have to see in person. Not impressed at first sight, though. They > look 'Tractorish" like the Momo pedals. > > -Larry > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FyNd9.43510$[email hidden]... > > I always get worried when they don't show the pedals :( > > > > -Larry > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > >

David G Fisher wrote: > > I had a feeling you were somehow comparing this wheel to wheels which cost > sooooo much more. When those other wheels have ff and cost the same as the > Ferrari, let me know. > > Btw, the pedals are made out of aluminum, not plastic. Fisher! Try reading what the gentleman actually wrote before replying. You stupid mullet!

Gee, what a surprise. Mr. GPL comes to the defense of Mr. Smith. David G Fisher "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > I had a feeling you were somehow comparing this wheel to wheels whichcost > > sooooo much more. When those other wheels have ff and cost the same asthe

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> > Ferrari, let me know. > > > > Btw, the pedals are made out of aluminum, not plastic. > > Fisher! > > Try reading what the gentleman actually wrote before replying. You > stupid mullet!

David G Fisher wrote: > > Gee, what a surprise. Mr. GPL comes to the defense of Mr. Smith. The fact was Steve's post you were totally incapable of reading has fuck all to do with it! You only like this wheel because it has that stupid horse on it. AND if it turns out to be the shittiest wheel ever, you'll be that last to admit it. Yours sneeringly Gerry "NASCAR sims are easy and very boring. Turning left is hardly a great skill." -- David G Fisher

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> David G Fisher wrote: > > > > Gee, what a surprise. Mr. GPL comes to the defense of Mr. Smith. > > The fact was Steve's post you were totally incapable of reading has fuck > all to do with it! You only like this wheel because it has that stupid > horse on it.

Or it could be that I already own a Thrustmaster Ferrari wheel, and it has been fantastic. David G Fisher

David G Fisher wrote:

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> > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > > > Gee, what a surprise. Mr. GPL comes to the defense of Mr. Smith. > > > > The fact was Steve's post you were totally incapable of reading has fuck > > all to do with it! You only like this wheel because it has that stupid > > horse on it. > > Or it could be that I already own a Thrustmaster Ferrari wheel, and it has > been fantastic. > > David G Fisher

WAKE UP, DICKHEAD, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PEDALS!!

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> David G Fisher wrote: > > > > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > > > > > Gee, what a surprise. Mr. GPL comes to the defense of Mr. Smith. > > > > > > The fact was Steve's post you were totally incapable of reading has

fuck > > > all to do with it! You only like this wheel because it has that stupid > > > horse on it. > > > > Or it could be that I already own a Thrustmaster Ferrari wheel, and ithas > > been fantastic. > > > > David G Fisher > > WAKE UP, DICKHEAD, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PEDALS!! Yea, the wheel/pedals have been fantastic. From now on I'll say wheel/pedals whenever I talk about my Ferrari wheel/pedals. Ok? My ferrari wheel/pedals are fantastic. See? Wheel/pedals. Wheel/pedals. Since you still can't seem to comprehend. There is no point in comparing the pedals that come with the Ferrari wheel to pedals that come with wheels that cost two, three, four, or five times as much. David G Fisher

Fatbob, here you go. Special, just for you ;) A simple bend in the spring takes care of it. http://www.slottweak.com/TMFerrariPedalSprings.htm -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Fatbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GLMd9.2083$[email hidden]... > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:al7nn3$1o580f$[email hidden]... > > There's nothing wrong with the pedals. They're as good as any that are > > included with the popular FF wheels. The gas spring is a little stiff on > the > > current TM Ferrari, but that can be fixed and any sim racer is hopefully > > bracing the pedals and elevating the front to get a comfortable angle. > > I have a TM Ferrari, and I love it (awesome force feedback). My only > complaint is the gas pedal being a bit too stiff for my taste. You said this > could be fixed, any suggestions on how I'd do this? > > Thanks! > Fatbob > >

David G Fisher wrote:

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> > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > > > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gee, what a surprise. Mr. GPL comes to the defense of Mr. Smith. > > > > > > > > The fact was Steve's post you were totally incapable of reading has > fuck > > > > all to do with it! You only like this wheel because it has that stupid > > > > horse on it. > > > > > > Or it could be that I already own a Thrustmaster Ferrari wheel, and it > has > > > been fantastic. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > WAKE UP, DICKHEAD, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PEDALS!! > > Yea, the wheel/pedals have been fantastic. From now on I'll say wheel/pedals > whenever I talk about my Ferrari wheel/pedals. Ok? My ferrari wheel/pedals > are fantastic. See? Wheel/pedals. Wheel/pedals. > > Since you still can't seem to comprehend. There is no point in comparing the > pedals that come with the Ferrari wheel to pedals that come with wheels that > cost two, three, four, or five times as much. > > David G Fisher

You asked what was wrong with the new ferrari's pedals, and Steve told you. What he said still stands.

Thx, Gary! "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ale5j9$1p16nm$[email hidden]...

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> Fatbob, here you go. Special, just for you ;) > A simple bend in the spring takes care of it. > http://www.slottweak.com/TMFerrariPedalSprings.htm > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > "Fatbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GLMd9.2083$[email hidden]... > > > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:al7nn3$1o580f$[email hidden]... > > > There's nothing wrong with the pedals. They're as good as any that are > > > included with the popular FF wheels. The gas spring is a little stiff

on > > the > > > current TM Ferrari, but that can be fixed and any sim racer ishopefully

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> > > bracing the pedals and elevating the front to get a comfortable angle. > > > > I have a TM Ferrari, and I love it (awesome force feedback). My only > > complaint is the gas pedal being a bit too stiff for my taste. You said > this > > could be fixed, any suggestions on how I'd do this? > > > > Thanks! > > Fatbob > > > > > >

Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire retardent gloves when you play computer games. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]...

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> Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > David G Fisher > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire retardent gloves when you play computer games.

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> Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > David G Fisher > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > DC > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > David G Fisher

It's a replica of what MS and RB have in their car. David G Fisher "Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]...

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> Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire > retardent gloves when you play computer games. > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... > > Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Looks really cool to me. I can't picture the layout being "stupid".. I doubt MS or RB would place all their buttons and stuff completely out of reach. The aluminum shifters look awesome. The pedals look a bit better than the momo too, and definatley better than the old Thrustmaster. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ixrk9.278618$[email hidden]...

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> It's a replica of what MS and RB have in their car. > > David G Fisher > > "Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]... > > Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire > > retardent gloves when you play computer games. > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... > > > Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Conga" <[email hidden]> writes: > Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire > retardent gloves when you play computer games. uh.... what's wrong whith that? -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gitaren er en sjingke

TM p.r. told me they may not import this awesome-looking wheel into the U.S. Clap if you believe in Tinkerbell.... "Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]...

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> Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire > retardent gloves when you play computer games. > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... > > Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<lbOd9.43750$[email hidden]>... > Found em'. > > > I'll have to see in person. Not impressed at first sight, though. They > look 'Tractorish" like the Momo pedals. I'm only going from memory of earlier pics (the TM site is barred here at work) but I thought they looked very similar to the pedals I use with my MOMO (they're from a TM F1 (NASCAR Pro)) and they've served me well for years. Brake even has a rubber stop so you've got to give it that extra poke to get full travel. They are *so* far superior to the MOMO pedals it's not funny. I struggled for weeks when I first got the MOMO but couldn't get any lapping consistency whatsoever. Don't even think about trying to heel and toe - something that can be achieved with ease with the TMs - which are not tractor-like for what it's worth. Unless TM have cocked up somewhere I foresee that the pedals will be up there with the best of the non-exotic, "standard" consumer level wheel/pedal sets. Cheers, Mark Reading, UK

That's something to do with Ferrari badged bits not selling very well in th U.S. TM usually re-badge the products NASCAR but that would be a bit difficult as the wheel is a Ferrari replica and probably under copyright. Andi. "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O9sk9.33159$[email hidden]... > TM p.r. told me they may not import this awesome-looking wheel into theU.S.

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> Clap if you believe in Tinkerbell.... > > "Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]... > > Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire > > retardent gloves when you play computer games. > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... > > > Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > > > > Look at 'em: SOSO! > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > > > > > What's wrong with the pedals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > > > > > > > > > > > > DC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The North America site (us.thrustmaster) is advertising it, though no info on price or availability.... Jim Steve Smith wrote:

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>TM p.r. told me they may not import this awesome-looking wheel into the U.S. >Clap if you believe in Tinkerbell.... > >"Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]... > >>Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire >>retardent gloves when you play computer games. >> >> >>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... >> >>>Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? >>> >>>http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 >>> >>>David G Fisher >>> >>> >>>"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... >>> >>>>Look at 'em: SOSO! >>>> >>>>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... >>>> >>>>>What's wrong with the pedals? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... >>>>> >>>>>>Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. >>>>>> >>>>>>DC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>>news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... >>>>>> >>>>>>>Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>David G Fisher >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >

If it does arrive here, I'm praying it works with my PS2. (P.S. What's with Arial?) "The Carvalho Family" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... The North America site (us.thrustmaster) is advertising it, though no info on price or availability.... Jim Steve Smith wrote: TM p.r. told me they may not import this awesome-looking wheel into the U.S.Clap if you believe in Tinkerbell...."Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]...Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fireretardent gloves when you play computer games."David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]...Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them?http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4David G Fisher"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]...Look at 'em: SOSO!"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]...What's wrong with the pedals?"David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]...Would be nice if they included some quality pedals.DCDavid G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]...Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice.http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207David G Fisher

Sorry about the font. The email setup is mostly for my wife. I'll see if I can change it without her noticing. Wish me luck and keep the couch warm. ;-) Speaking of PS2, my son has one with GT3. Is it worth investing some time to get to know? Jim Steve Smith wrote:

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> If it does arrive here, I'm praying it works with my PS2. > > > > (P.S. What's with Arial?) > > "The Carvalho Family" <[email hidden] <mailto:[email hidden]> > > wrote in message news:[email hidden] ... > > The North America site (us.thrustmaster) is advertising it, though > no info on price or availability.... > Jim > > Steve Smith wrote: > >>TM p.r. told me they may not import this awesome-looking wheel into the U.S. >>Clap if you believe in Tinkerbell.... >> >>"Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]... >> >>>Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire >>>retardent gloves when you play computer games. >>> >>> >>>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... >>> >>>>Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? >>>> >>>>http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 >>>> >>>>David G Fisher >>>> >>>> >>>>"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... >>>> >>>>>Look at 'em: SOSO! >>>>> >>>>>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... >>>>> >>>>>>What's wrong with the pedals? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>>news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... >>>>>> >>>>>>>Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>DC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>David G Fisher >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Absolutely. I just finished doing a story on racing games for the Xbox and PS2 and GT3 is at the head of my Top Ten list. In fact, I'd say it's better than 99% of PC racing games (with a FF wheel like Logi's GT Force), not 'cuz of its Lite physics model but certainly in terms of gameplay. If you send me yer email addy, I'll send you the relevant 'graphs. GT4, which unfortunately isn't due for many, many months, will support online racing. It's a great game. "The Carvalho Family" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Sorry about the font. The email setup is mostly for my wife. I'll see if > I can change it without her noticing. Wish me luck and keep the couch > warm. ;-) > Speaking of PS2, my son has one with GT3. Is it worth investing some > time to get to know? > > Jim > > Steve Smith wrote: > > > If it does arrive here, I'm praying it works with my PS2. > > > > > > > > (P.S. What's with Arial?) > > > > "The Carvalho Family" <[email hidden] <mailto:[email hidden]> > > > wrote in message news:[email hidden] ... > > > > The North America site (us.thrustmaster) is advertising it, though > > no info on price or availability.... > > Jim > > > > Steve Smith wrote: > > > >>TM p.r. told me they may not import this awesome-looking wheel into the

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> >>Clap if you believe in Tinkerbell.... > >> > >>"Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>news:Rbrk9.100023$[email hidden]... > >> > >>>Its ugly and the buttons have a stupid layout...unless you wear fire > >>>retardent gloves when you play computer games. > >>> > >>> > >>>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>news:SlHd9.449712$[email hidden]... > >>> > >>>>Ok, here's a pic. I'm looking at them. What's wrong with them? > >>>> > >>>>http://europe.thrustmaster.com/products/d_prd.php?p=T129&fam=4 > >>>> > >>>>David G Fisher > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>>news:PEGd9.194932$[email hidden]... > >>>> > >>>>>Look at 'em: SOSO! > >>>>> > >>>>>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>>>news:KnGd9.448908$[email hidden]... > >>>>> > >>>>>>What's wrong with the pedals? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>"David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:GzFd9.2656$[email hidden]... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Would be nice if they included some quality pedals. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>DC > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>David G Fisher <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:hmkd9.287910$[email hidden]... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Somebody was asking about this recently. Looks really nice. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>http://europe.thrustmaster.com/news/read.php?id=207 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>David G Fisher > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > >