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11 posts by 6 people · 08 Sep 2002 16:27 UTC - 11 Sep 2002 21:45 UTC

Mike Beauchamp 08 Sep 2002 16:27 UTC#98824
Hey all.. How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to the manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and some of the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out more and more. Makes no sense... Here's the problem: I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting. So I did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usually have to do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for the first time. Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretched in certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix it. I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor), with no results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect picture. So it can only be the monitor. I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just got it out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had a problem with it yet. Thanks! Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com
That sounds like a Pincushion problem. Your monitor 'should' have adjustments for it...I don't know if ATI has software settings to control this problem. You might want to try changing your refresh rate. dave henrie "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > Hey all.. > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to the > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and someof
Quoted text (8 lines)> the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out more > and more. Makes no sense... > > Here's the problem: > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting. So I > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usually have
to
Quoted text (9 lines)> do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for the first > time. > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretched in > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix it. > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor), with
no > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just gotit
Quoted text (9 lines)> out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had a > problem with it yet. > > Thanks! > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > >
Dave, The monitor only has adjustments for "Side-Pin" and "Pin-Balance". Neither of which can fix this problem.. I don't know if I described it quite right, so I'll try again.. It reaches the horizontal and vertical edges just fine (so, the picture is a square). But more of the information is vertically compressed at the top 1/3, and the bottom 2/3 of the picture is vertically stretched. So, while I'm reading this message, the top few lines the text seems to be not-as-tall, and the last lines are significantly taller. I also tried the refresh rates, and they all had the same problem :( Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GZLe9.350473$me6.40047@sccrnsc01...
Quoted text (13 lines)> > That sounds like a Pincushion problem. Your monitor 'should' have > adjustments for it...I don't know if ATI has software settings to control > this problem. > You might want to try changing your refresh rate. > dave henrie > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > > Hey all.. > > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to
the > > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, andsome > of > > the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture outmore > > and more. Makes no sense... > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the > > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting. SoI > > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usuallyhave > to > > do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for thefirst > > time. > > > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretchedin
Quoted text (11 lines)> > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically > > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix it. > > > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor), with > no > > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same > > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect > > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just
got
Quoted text (12 lines)> it > > out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had a > > problem with it yet. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mike > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > >
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:27:58 -0400, "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hey all.. >How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? >In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to the >manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and some of >the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out more >and more. Makes no sense... On my KDS monitor to, reset/recall, you press and hold the up and down buttons. -- karkrazy AT softhome DOT net
I tried holding down almost every combination of the 5 buttons on the front for like 30 seconds each, with no luck :( Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 12:27:58 -0400, "Mike Beauchamp" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hey all.. > >How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > >In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according tothe > >manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and someof
Quoted text (8 lines)> >the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out more > >and more. Makes no sense... > > On my KDS monitor to, reset/recall, you press and hold the up and down > buttons. > > -- > karkrazy AT softhome DOT net
Mike..... Here's what I can think of to check......(and I would guess you've already done these things....but, heck....here goes anyway): 1. Hit the "degauss" - just to make sure. 2. You have not moved something with a big magnet (like a large speaker) near the monitor? 3. The power cord is securely fastened at both ends (the wall outlet, plug strip....and the back of the monitor). 4. When you "swapped" monitors....did you also try swapping the cabling? 5. You've reduced the overall picture size so you know for sure where the "edges" of the monitor are (and are not distorted). 6. You've tried reinstalling the drivers for the monitor (and got "fresh" ones from the KDS site). 7. Does changing the "refresh rate" change the distortion pattern in any way? If it doesn't, I'd say you have a bad power supply or a bad electron gun. That should be covered under warranty and KDS is pretty good about just giving you another monitor (I've had two KDS monitors go bad, within warranty - both because of bad power supplies). That's all I can think of......sorry. Tom "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > Hey all.. > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to the > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and someof
Quoted text (8 lines)> the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out more > and more. Makes no sense... > > Here's the problem: > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting. So I > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usually have
to
Quoted text (9 lines)> do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for the first > time. > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretched in > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix it. > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor), with
no > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just gotit
Quoted text (9 lines)> out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had a > problem with it yet. > > Thanks! > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > >
I'm thinking of getting a KDS monitor because they are fairly cheap. From the sound of it they aren't very good. Do you still have KDS monitors and after they were replaced.. are they still good? Vintook "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:neRe9.354012$me6.40859@sccrnsc01...
Quoted text (9 lines)> Mike..... > > Here's what I can think of to check......(and I would guess you've already > done these things....but, heck....here goes anyway): > > 1. Hit the "degauss" - just to make sure. > 2. You have not moved something with a big magnet (like a large speaker) > near the monitor? > 3. The power cord is securely fastened at both ends (the wall outlet,
plug
Quoted text (23 lines)> strip....and the back of the monitor). > 4. When you "swapped" monitors....did you also try swapping the cabling? > 5. You've reduced the overall picture size so you know for sure where the > "edges" of the monitor are (and are not distorted). > 6. You've tried reinstalling the drivers for the monitor (and got "fresh" > ones from the KDS site). > 7. Does changing the "refresh rate" change the distortion pattern in any > way? If it doesn't, I'd say you have a bad power supply or a bad electron > gun. That should be covered under warranty and KDS is pretty good about > just giving you another monitor (I've had two KDS monitors go bad, within > warranty - both because of bad power supplies). > > That's all I can think of......sorry. > > Tom > > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > > Hey all.. > > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to
the > > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, andsome > of > > the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture outmore > > and more. Makes no sense... > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the > > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting. SoI > > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usuallyhave > to > > do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for thefirst > > time. > > > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretchedin
Quoted text (11 lines)> > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically > > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix it. > > > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor), with > no > > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same > > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect > > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just
got
Quoted text (13 lines)> it > > out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had a > > problem with it yet. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mike > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > > >
VT.... I think most CRT-type monitors are becoming something of a commodity item. Especially considering the price of 21" monitors today, compared to even a couple years ago (lower now by a couple thousand dollars). I have used KDS, NEC and ADI monitors over the last few years (probably a dozen or so of each). Within that group, the NEC monitors are the best in terms of pure graphic quality. However, if you use your computer primarily for gaming, the KDS monitors are more than adequate, especially considering their lower price. However, individual models within any product line can be of more - or less - value and you can't just buy anything....and be safe. Research is tedious, but it pays off in the long run. I have had hardware problems with all three companies....all three responded appropriately with repairs and replacements. However, I've not bought anything but NEC monitors now for about two years.....so I should caution that my "experience" with KDS and ADI is getting a bit dated. Hope that's helpful..... Tom "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sV3f9.16945$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> I'm thinking of getting a KDS monitor because they are fairly cheap. From > the sound of it they aren't very good. Do you still have KDS monitors and > after they were replaced.. are they still good? > > Vintook > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:neRe9.354012$me6.40859@sccrnsc01... > > Mike..... > > > > Here's what I can think of to check......(and I would guess you've
already > > done these things....but, heck....here goes anyway): > > > > 1. Hit the "degauss" - just to make sure. > > 2. You have not moved something with a big magnet (like a largespeaker) > > near the monitor? > > 3. The power cord is securely fastened at both ends (the wall outlet, > plug > > strip....and the back of the monitor). > > 4. When you "swapped" monitors....did you also try swapping thecabling? > > 5. You've reduced the overall picture size so you know for sure wherethe > > "edges" of the monitor are (and are not distorted). > > 6. You've tried reinstalling the drivers for the monitor (and got"fresh" > > ones from the KDS site). > > 7. Does changing the "refresh rate" change the distortion pattern inany > > way? If it doesn't, I'd say you have a bad power supply or a badelectron > > gun. That should be covered under warranty and KDS is pretty good about > > just giving you another monitor (I've had two KDS monitors go bad,within
Quoted text (25 lines)> > warranty - both because of bad power supplies). > > > > That's all I can think of......sorry. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > > > Hey all.. > > > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > > > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to > the > > > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and > some > > of > > > the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out > more > > > and more. Makes no sense... > > > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the > > > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting.
So
Quoted text (13 lines)> I > > > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usually > have > > to > > > do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for the > first > > > time. > > > > > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretched > in > > > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically > > > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > > > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix
it. > > > > > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor),with
Quoted text (9 lines)> > no > > > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same > > > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect > > > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > > > > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just > got > > it > > > out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had
a
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > problem with it yet. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Mike > > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
It almost sounds like you have an incompatible refresh rate going over to the monitor. It's also _possible_ that the high-voltage section of your monitor decided to go south as a coincidence... Screwed up pictures like that are almost refresh or high-voltage related. -Larry "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > Hey all.. > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to the > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and someof
Quoted text (8 lines)> the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out more > and more. Makes no sense... > > Here's the problem: > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting. So I > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usually have
to
Quoted text (9 lines)> do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for the first > time. > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretched in > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix it. > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor), with
no > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just gotit
Quoted text (9 lines)> out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had a > problem with it yet. > > Thanks! > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > >
Aha! There is an adjustment for that. Now, I just need to remember the name of it. Damn... Hold on a sec... Ok, I'm back. My Mitsubishi calls this "Vertical Line" and "Verticle Line Balance". I don't think that's the name I've seen it under before, though. I know exactly what you are talking about now... -Larry "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4iMe9.22834$[email hidden]... > Dave, > The monitor only has adjustments for "Side-Pin" and "Pin-Balance". Neither > of which can fix this problem.. > I don't know if I described it quite right, so I'll try again.. > It reaches the horizontal and vertical edges just fine (so, the picture isa
Quoted text (17 lines)> square). But more of the information is vertically compressed at the top > 1/3, and the bottom 2/3 of the picture is vertically stretched. So, while > I'm reading this message, the top few lines the text seems to be > not-as-tall, and the last lines are significantly taller. > > I also tried the refresh rates, and they all had the same problem :( > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GZLe9.350473$me6.40047@sccrnsc01... > > > > That sounds like a Pincushion problem. Your monitor 'should' have > > adjustments for it...I don't know if ATI has software settings to
control
Quoted text (22 lines)> > this problem. > > You might want to try changing your refresh rate. > > dave henrie > > > > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > > > Hey all.. > > > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > > > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according to > the > > > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and > some > > of > > > the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out > more > > > and more. Makes no sense... > > > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and the > > > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor needed adjusting.
So
Quoted text (13 lines)> I > > > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usually > have > > to > > > do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for the > first > > > time. > > > > > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted (stretched > in > > > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom is vertically > > > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > > > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix
it. > > > > > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor),with
Quoted text (9 lines)> > no > > > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact same > > > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows a perfect > > > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > > > > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though I just > got > > it > > > out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've never had
a
Quoted text (12 lines)> > > problem with it yet. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Mike > > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
Larry 11 Sep 2002 21:45 UTC↳ reply to Tom Pabst#98466
I dunno... My Mitsubishi 2060U 22" (20" viewable) is mighty damned fine, and it places at the #1 spot or close to it in every test and review I've ever read that includes it. It also doesn't have the typical convergence problems you see on the $1500 Sony that's closest to it. I paid $799 at MicroCenter about a year and a half ago. It is still a current model. -Larry "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I9Bf9.387250$me6.44653@sccrnsc01...
Quoted text (9 lines)> VT.... > > I think most CRT-type monitors are becoming something of a commodity item. > Especially considering the price of 21" monitors today, compared to even a > couple years ago (lower now by a couple thousand dollars). > > I have used KDS, NEC and ADI monitors over the last few years (probably a > dozen or so of each). Within that group, the NEC monitors are the best in > terms of pure graphic quality. However, if you use your computer
primarily > for gaming, the KDS monitors are more than adequate, especiallyconsidering > their lower price. However, individual models within any product line can > be of more - or less - value and you can't just buy anything....and besafe. > Research is tedious, but it pays off in the long run. I have had hardware > problems with all three companies....all three responded appropriatelywith
Quoted text (12 lines)> repairs and replacements. However, I've not bought anything but NEC > monitors now for about two years.....so I should caution that my > "experience" with KDS and ADI is getting a bit dated. > > Hope that's helpful..... > > Tom > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sV3f9.16945$[email hidden]... > > I'm thinking of getting a KDS monitor because they are fairly cheap.
From > > the sound of it they aren't very good. Do you still have KDS monitorsand
Quoted text (32 lines)> > after they were replaced.. are they still good? > > > > Vintook > > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:neRe9.354012$me6.40859@sccrnsc01... > > > Mike..... > > > > > > Here's what I can think of to check......(and I would guess you've > already > > > done these things....but, heck....here goes anyway): > > > > > > 1. Hit the "degauss" - just to make sure. > > > 2. You have not moved something with a big magnet (like a large > speaker) > > > near the monitor? > > > 3. The power cord is securely fastened at both ends (the wall outlet, > > plug > > > strip....and the back of the monitor). > > > 4. When you "swapped" monitors....did you also try swapping the > cabling? > > > 5. You've reduced the overall picture size so you know for sure where > the > > > "edges" of the monitor are (and are not distorted). > > > 6. You've tried reinstalling the drivers for the monitor (and got > "fresh" > > > ones from the KDS site). > > > 7. Does changing the "refresh rate" change the distortion pattern in > any > > > way? If it doesn't, I'd say you have a bad power supply or a bad > electron > > > gun. That should be covered under warranty and KDS is pretty good
about
Quoted text (15 lines)> > > just giving you another monitor (I've had two KDS monitors go bad, > within > > > warranty - both because of bad power supplies). > > > > > > That's all I can think of......sorry. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:9XKe9.22826$[email hidden]... > > > > Hey all.. > > > > How Can I reset my KDS XF-7p Monitor? > > > > In the onscreen menu, there's a "RECALL" function, which (according
to
Quoted text (11 lines)> > the > > > > manual) resets to factory defaults. This is not the case at all, and > > some > > > of > > > > the time "recall" just simply horizontally stretches the picture out > > more > > > > and more. Makes no sense... > > > > > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > > > > > I loaded up new Video Card drivers (lastest for radeon 7500), and
the > > > > computer reset. When it booted back up, the monitor neededadjusting.
Quoted text (10 lines)> So > > I > > > > did that through the controls on the front of the monitor. I usually > > have > > > to > > > > do this with new video cards, or changing to new resolutions for the > > first > > > > time. > > > > > > > > Once I got everything set, the picture was really distorted
(stretched > > in > > > > certain places). The middle of the screen and the bottom isvertically
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > > stretched, while the top 1/3 gets progressively squished. There's no > > > > controls on the front to make this sort of a problem, let alone fix > it. > > > > > > > > I've tried to get rid of the drivers (both video card and monitor), > with > > > no > > > > results. The same monitor on a different computer shows the exact
same > > > > problem, and a different monitor on the same computer shows aperfect > > > > picture. So it can only be the monitor. > > > > > > > > I was hoping there was a way to "reset" the monitor, as though Ijust > > got > > > it > > > > out of the box again. It's only 6 months old or so, and I've neverhad
Quoted text (16 lines)> a > > > > problem with it yet. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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