F1 2k2 ranking..dang near everyone uses helps?

What are the recomended help levels for F1 2k2. I'm just finally trying it out...at Spa I submitted a lap that put me 700+ outta about a 1000. (don't worry folks I just KNOW I can get into the 690's) Anyhow, after I filtered out all but low TC and low stability + clutch, I was suddenly 31st outta about 60. Am I reading that right? out of 1000 users only a handful are running with minimal aids on? I should go back and see what the amount of users are that use NO driving aids. second question: the web site lists 0 1 2 * for each drivng aid, I'm assuming they equal: 0 = no aid enabled for that feature 1 = LOW level aid 2 = High Level aid * = wildcard, any or none. Is that a proper reading of the EA website? btw...the lap I submitted also seems to have High ABS brakes enabled(2) but I checked twice and it was NOT turned on... Have I scrambled something in my install already?? dave henrie

Hey Dave. Kinda sad isn't it? I only use clutch and Inv. I don't have time for stalls or crashes :) Like on the F12001 telemetry site. I don't know what the * means, could be as you say. There are only a very few who use absolutely no aids. as far as your ABS thing, use the hotkey to cycle through and make sure the abs is off before you leave the pits. I'm sorry I don't know for sure which is the right one, but it is one of the F1-F10 keys. If you have the message center turned on it will tell you as you go.

Holy crap, out of all the people who only use low traction control at SPA, I'm ranked #1 - woohoo!

See all those FIA laps paid off Damien! Well done. dave henrie "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:am9e1t$3u2uj$[email hidden]... > Holy crap, out of all the people who only use low traction control at SPA, > I'm ranked #1 - woohoo! > >

> Kinda sad isn't it? Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. MadDAWG

Only traction control and launch control. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Kinda sad isn't it? > > Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. > > MadDAWG > >

"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:amaf2o$rn8$[email hidden]:

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> "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> > Kinda sad isn't it? >> >> Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. >> >> MadDAWG > > Only traction control and launch control. > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > >

And auto shifting -- now they even change shifting points from the pits during races, if required...

Oh yeah, I forgot about autoshifting ! Thanks for reminding me :) Next thing you know, all the drivers will be sat behind a PC monitor driving cars that are radio controlled ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "B Bonnet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:amaf2o$rn8$[email hidden]: > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> > Kinda sad isn't it? > >> > >> Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. > >> > >> MadDAWG > > > > Only traction control and launch control. > > > > -- > > > > Ian P > > <email invalid due to spam> > > > > > > And auto shifting -- now they even change shifting points from the pits > during races, if required... >

I just got it, so I can't tell yet, but that sounds about right for me too. I think I heard that F1 is outlawing Traction Control next year. Should be interesting, especially during races in the rain :) -Larry "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:amaf2o$rn8$[email hidden]...

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> Only traction control and launch control. > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > Kinda sad isn't it? > > > > Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Kinda sad isn't it? > > Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. > > MadDAWG > The thing that got me, was the steering help, eliminating that from the ranking page cut off guys who where 10 seconds faster than the NON steering aid users. It sounds like with steering help on you just floor the gas and let the computer get you around the track. Not very representative of a drivng ranking. So I was curious just what acceptable aids would be...low level traction, autoshifts and that's it?(clutch of course for us two pedal folks) dave henrie

Dave- Go back to the F12001 telemetry/rankings. "This is a list of BANNED driving aids... Braking Point Assistance, Traction Control (HIGH) Anti-Lock Braking, Steering Help, Opposite Lock Help and Stability Control. The use of any of these aids for all (or part) of a lap will not allow that lap to be uploaded." seemed to be a better way, imo. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_d9i9.140416$Jo.39558@rwcrnsc53...

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> > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > Kinda sad isn't it? > > > > Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. > > > > MadDAWG > > > The thing that got me, was the steering help, eliminating that from the > ranking page cut off guys who where 10 seconds faster than the NON

steering > aid users. It sounds like with steering help on you just floor the gasand > let the computer get you around the track. Not very representative of a > drivng ranking. > So I was curious just what acceptable aids would be...low leveltraction, > autoshifts and that's it?(clutch of course for us two pedal folks) > dave henrie > >

I also race without aids, its much more satisfying to do a badass lap without any extra help.

In article <YJ5i9.69221$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: >I think I heard that F1 is outlawing Traction Control next year. Should be >interesting, especially during races in the rain :) > Spa '98, anyone...?<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.03 N2002 Rank:+20.124 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:DcSh9.133089$Jo.38327@rwcrnsc53... > What are the recomended help levels for F1 2k2. I'm just finally trying i'd recommend the parachute help, at least when you try this game as flight simulator, see here: http://gpstation.foren.4players.de/download.php?id=856 :) Stefan.

Personally, I think that's reasonable. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_d9i9.140416$Jo.39558@rwcrnsc53...

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> > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > Kinda sad isn't it? > > > > Why? the guys doing it for real use driving aids too. > > > > MadDAWG > > > The thing that got me, was the steering help, eliminating that from the > ranking page cut off guys who where 10 seconds faster than the NON

steering > aid users. It sounds like with steering help on you just floor the gasand > let the computer get you around the track. Not very representative of a > drivng ranking. > So I was curious just what acceptable aids would be...low leveltraction, > autoshifts and that's it?(clutch of course for us two pedal folks) > dave henrie > >