I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates etc
Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same chipsets,
with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also
like your comments on weather there is much difference between the different
brands using the same chip sets.
I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for
bucks at the moment.
The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as
best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in Frame
rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg.
How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much?
I Mainly use the following Sims:
GPL
LFS
F12002
in that order.
My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur) :-)
P4 1.3
GF2 MX 64M
256 M RD Ram (800Mhz)
SB Live
XP
Thanks in advance to all that Post
Darf
Last I knew the 4400 was the leader in bang for your buck.
The amount of ram doesn't make things faster or slower assuming that its
equal ram. I believe the 128 meg cards are using a little slower ram than
the 64 meg cards so for frame rate you would see a little difference but not
much. Where the amount of ram comes into play is higher screen resolutions.
The higher the screen res the more oaf the video card ram is set aside for
frame buffer, and therefore the less you have for texture storage. A good
example of this was NR2002 before the patch. D3D supported texture
compression, but the OpenGL did not. So in OpenGL with a 1280 x 960 screen
res the game would have to mip down the textures to get them to fit in the
amount of the ram. So if you don't play in a large screen res then the 64
is the way to go. If not you probably won't even miss the few frames you
might loose with the slower ram used on the 128 cards.
MadDAWG
Complicated question.
2 months ago I bought an MSI Ti4400. I did a lot of research and thought it
was the best bang for the buck. (I thought I'd get a 4200, but the prices
didn't drop like I expected them to). The 4400 oc's easily to 4600 specs
and I'm happy with it.
Now, things are different. The 4400 is still a great deal, but an MSI 4600
is less than $40 more. ($228, includes shipping) I don't know how much more
you can get out of the 4600 by oc'ing, but .... it may be something to
consider at that price.
The Radeon Pro is as low as $321 now. It is a next generation card. If
you're going to spend around $200 anyway, maybe you should consider adding
another $100 to it.
As always, all the cards will be cheaper after Dec. when the new NV30s come
out. Choosing a video card is always a hard thing to do.
Oh, and yes, there is a difference in the different companies' offerings of
the same NV cards. The speeds are generally close, but some run much hotter
than others.
I suppose, if I had to buy a card right now, I'd make the same choice I made
2 months ago; but the decision is more complicated.
I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are you
planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon?
--
Slot
Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com
"Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates etc
> Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same chipsets,
> with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also
> like your comments on weather there is much difference between the
different
> brands using the same chip sets.
> I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for
> bucks at the moment.
> The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as
> best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in
Frame
> rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg.
> How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much?
>
> I Mainly use the following Sims:
> GPL
> LFS
> F12002
> in that order.
>
> My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur) :-)
>
> P4 1.3
> GF2 MX 64M
> 256 M RD Ram (800Mhz)
> SB Live
> XP
>
> Thanks in advance to all that Post
>
> Darf
>
>
>
>
>
>
I have learned one thing through the years. Buy the best one you can
afford. Meaning biggest and fastest your budget will allow. I just
replaced my gf2 64mb with a 128mb ti4600 and it is incredible with all
graphics on at 1600x1200x32 in n2k2. I am very pleased with it.
--
Darrin Stevens
www.Stevens-Racing.com
"Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:3d89f303$0$18870$[email hidden]...
> I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates etc
> Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same chipsets,
> with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also
> like your comments on weather there is much difference between the
different
> brands using the same chip sets.
> I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for
> bucks at the moment.
> The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as
> best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in
Frame
> rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg.
> How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much?
>
> I Mainly use the following Sims:
> GPL
> LFS
> F12002
> in that order.
>
> My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur) :-)
>
> P4 1.3
> GF2 MX 64M
> 256 M RD Ram (800Mhz)
> SB Live
> XP
>
> Thanks in advance to all that Post
>
> Darf
>
>
>
>
>
>
With that processor, I'd say the Ti4200 would be a good choice. Anything
more would really need a processor upgrade as well to keep it well fed.
-Larry
"Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:3d89f303$0$18870$[email hidden]...
> I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates etc
> Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same chipsets,
> with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also
> like your comments on weather there is much difference between thedifferent
> brands using the same chip sets.
> I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for
> bucks at the moment.
> The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as
> best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference inFrame
Quoted text (26 lines)
> rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg. > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much? > > I Mainly use the following Sims: > GPL > LFS > F12002 > in that order. > > My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur) :-) > > P4 1.3 > GF2 MX 64M > 256 M RD Ram (800Mhz) > SB Live > XP > > Thanks in advance to all that Post > > Darf > > > > > >I did too. A few months back caught the PNY 4400 on sale for like $225
after rebate.
Are they still that cheap? If so, it may be a better choice than the Ti4200
for him, unless the 4200 has dived in price.
I don't think his current processor can fully satisfy the feeding of a
Ti4400, but if it's close to the 4200 in price then it's a good upgrade
nonetheless.
-Larry
"GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:amd0d3$4rhc6$[email hidden]...
> Complicated question.
> 2 months ago I bought an MSI Ti4400. I did a lot of research and thoughtit
> was the best bang for the buck. (I thought I'd get a 4200, but the prices
> didn't drop like I expected them to). The 4400 oc's easily to 4600 specs
> and I'm happy with it.
> Now, things are different. The 4400 is still a great deal, but an MSI 4600
> is less than $40 more. ($228, includes shipping) I don't know how muchmore
> you can get out of the 4600 by oc'ing, but .... it may be something to
> consider at that price.
> The Radeon Pro is as low as $321 now. It is a next generation card. If
> you're going to spend around $200 anyway, maybe you should consider adding
> another $100 to it.
> As always, all the cards will be cheaper after Dec. when the new NV30scome
> out. Choosing a video card is always a hard thing to do.
> Oh, and yes, there is a difference in the different companies' offeringsof
> the same NV cards. The speeds are generally close, but some run muchhotter
> than others.
> I suppose, if I had to buy a card right now, I'd make the same choice Imade
etc
> > Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> > I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the samechipsets,
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> 2 months ago; but the decision is more complicated. > I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are you > planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon? > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > "Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3d89f303$0$18870$[email hidden]... > > I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card. > > I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame ratesQuoted text (37 lines)
> > with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also > > like your comments on weather there is much difference between the > different > > brands using the same chip sets. > > I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for > > bucks at the moment. > > The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as > > best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in > Frame > > rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg. > > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much? > > > > I Mainly use the following Sims: > > GPL > > LFS > > F12002 > > in that order. > > > > My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur) :-) > > > > P4 1.3 > > GF2 MX 64M > > 256 M RD Ram (800Mhz) > > SB Live > > XP > > > > Thanks in advance to all that Post > > > > Darf > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I was looking into the Gainward Ti4200 with 3.5 ns ram. It had some of the
fastest ram for a 4200. Its on pricewatch for $126.00.. no tv out btw..
Best Buy and Compusa are supposed to start selling the 4200 for $129 - 30
rebate = $99.00 this weekend.
-Tim
"Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:3d89f303$0$18870$[email hidden]...
> I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates etc
> Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same chipsets,
> with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also
> like your comments on weather there is much difference between thedifferent
> brands using the same chip sets.
> I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for
> bucks at the moment.
> The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as
> best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference inFrame
Quoted text (26 lines)
> rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg. > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much? > > I Mainly use the following Sims: > GPL > LFS > F12002 > in that order. > > My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur) :-) > > P4 1.3 > GF2 MX 64M > 256 M RD Ram (800Mhz) > SB Live > XP > > Thanks in advance to all that Post > > Darf > > > > > >Thanks for your opinion.
No I am not planing to upgrade my MB or CPU for a while.
Can you recommend an actual card Model number and brand name in the range
...or is the Ti part only a certain brand?
Darf
"GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are you
> planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon?
>
> --
> Slot
Do a search on pricewatch.com for the MSI Ti4400. You'll be all set.
--
Slot
Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com
"Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your opinion.
> No I am not planing to upgrade my MB or CPU for a while.
> Can you recommend an actual card Model number and brand name in the range
> ...or is the Ti part only a certain brand?
>
> Darf
>
>
> "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:amd0d3$4rhc6$[email hidden]...
> > I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are
you
> > planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon?
> >
> > --
> > Slot
>
>
>
Compusa 4200's are $129 after rebate.
from Compusa website:
Valid From: 9/15/02
Valid To: 9/21/02
Rebate Details:
Regular Retail Price: $199.99
-$40.00 Instant Saving
You Pay: $159.99 Price after instant rebates, if any
-$30.00 Mfr. Mail-in Rebate
CompUSA Price: $129.99 Price after instant & mail-in rebates
"Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> > I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the samechipsets,
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> Best Buy and Compusa are supposed to start selling the 4200 for $129 - 30 > rebate = $99.00 this weekend. > > -Tim > > "Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3d89f303$0$18870$[email hidden]... > > I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card. > > I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame ratesQuoted text (37 lines)
> > with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also > > like your comments on weather there is much difference between the > different > > brands using the same chip sets. > > I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for > > bucks at the moment. > > The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as > > best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in > Frame > > rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg. > > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much? > > > > I Mainly use the following Sims: > > GPL > > LFS > > F12002 > > in that order. > > > > My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur) :-) > > > > P4 1.3 > > GF2 MX 64M > > 256 M RD Ram (800Mhz) > > SB Live > > XP > > > > Thanks in advance to all that Post > > > > Darf > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But make sure you check out the dealer.
There are good dealers on Pricewatch, but there's also the sludge of the
earth selling stuff off of there.
www.resellerratings.com should help.
-Larry
"GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > ...or is the Ti part only a certain brand? > > > > Darf > > > > > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:amd0d3$4rhc6$[email hidden]... > > > I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are > you > > > planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon? > > > > > > -- > > > Slot > > > > > > > >That is now...wait til this weekend.
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> > > like your comments on weather there is much difference between the
> > different
> > > brands using the same chip sets.
> > > I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bangfor
> > > bucks at the moment.
> > > The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400as
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> Compusa 4200's are $129 after rebate. > > from Compusa website: > > Valid From: 9/15/02 > Valid To: 9/21/02 > Rebate Details: > Regular Retail Price: $199.99 > -$40.00 Instant Saving > > You Pay: $159.99 Price after instant rebates, if any > -$30.00 Mfr. Mail-in Rebate > > CompUSA Price: $129.99 Price after instant & mail-in rebates > > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qNri9.150147$Jo.46111@rwcrnsc53... > > Best Buy and Compusa are supposed to start selling the 4200 for $129 -Quoted text (13 lines)
> > rebate = $99.00 this weekend. > > > > -Tim > > > > "Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3d89f303$0$18870$[email hidden]... > > > I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card. > > > I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates > etc > > > Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards. > > > I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same > chipsets, > > > with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I wouldQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in > > Frame > > > rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg and a 4400 128 Meg. > > > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much? > > > > > > I Mainly use the following Sims: > > > GPL > > > LFS > > > F12002 > > > in that order. > > > > > > My current system is : (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur)Quoted text (20 lines)
> > > > > > P4 1.3 > > > GF2 MX 64M > > > 256 M RD Ram (800Mhz) > > > SB Live > > > XP > > > > > > Thanks in advance to all that Post > > > > > > Darf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You would be very pleased with a Ti4200. Gainward makes a good card, that is
very overclockable.
Don Burnette
Darf wrote:
