GPL + GeForce4 MX440 = screen corruption?

Hi Guys, I have recently got myself a new PC (Athlon 2000 Pro + GeForce4 MX440) so for GPL now I'd using the D3D rasterizer. Game runs absolutely awesome but there are a couple of things that are annoying me ... maybe one of you has seen this and can help? a) First problem is that the 'text' in the black header/footer of the screen gets corrupted ... almost like it's loosing definition/resolution and over time you can't read it at all. By header/footer I mean the areas that shows the framerate in the 'race' and position, laptime, best laptime etc in 'replay'. Also, I've notice the 'text' on the screen that shows all your laptimes/positions getting corrupted. Any idea how to 'fix' this? b) Second problem is that when I exit GPL and come back to the my Windows (98) desktop, all my Windows are moved as if my windows resolution was turned down. This is not really a problem but it is annoying. Any idea how to stop it doing this? ps. I'm running Windows at 1280x 1024 resolution while GPL as 1027x768. Thanks for any/all the helps and tips in advance. -- Regards, David Mocnay

Can't help you sorry. I have the same problem in GPL but i have a AMD Athlon XP 1600+ and a GF2 GTS vid card with v29.80 drivers, i've changed the drivers but it doesn't fix it. I'm running Windows98se at 1024 x 768 and GPL at 1152 x 864. Sid. "David Mocnay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PYRi9.36862$[email hidden]...

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> Hi Guys, > I have recently got myself a new PC (Athlon 2000 Pro + GeForce4 MX440) so > for GPL now I'd using the D3D rasterizer. Game runs absolutely awesome but > there are a couple of things that are annoying me ... maybe one of you has > seen this and can help? > > a) First problem is that the 'text' in the black header/footer of the

screen > gets corrupted ... almost like it's loosing definition/resolution and over > time you can't read it at all. By header/footer I mean the areas thatshows

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> the framerate in the 'race' and position, laptime, best laptime etc in > 'replay'. Also, I've notice the 'text' on the screen that shows all your > laptimes/positions getting corrupted. Any idea how to 'fix' this? > > b) Second problem is that when I exit GPL and come back to the my Windows > (98) desktop, all my Windows are moved as if my windows resolution was > turned down. This is not really a problem but it is annoying. Any idea how > to stop it doing this? > > ps. I'm running Windows at 1280x 1024 resolution while GPL as 1027x768. > > Thanks for any/all the helps and tips in advance. > > -- > > Regards, > David Mocnay > > >

problem a) isnt that to do with 4xFSAA in windows geforce props or something "David Mocnay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PYRi9.36862$[email hidden]...

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> Hi Guys, > I have recently got myself a new PC (Athlon 2000 Pro + GeForce4 MX440) so > for GPL now I'd using the D3D rasterizer. Game runs absolutely awesome but > there are a couple of things that are annoying me ... maybe one of you has > seen this and can help? > > a) First problem is that the 'text' in the black header/footer of the

screen > gets corrupted ... almost like it's loosing definition/resolution and over > time you can't read it at all. By header/footer I mean the areas thatshows

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> the framerate in the 'race' and position, laptime, best laptime etc in > 'replay'. Also, I've notice the 'text' on the screen that shows all your > laptimes/positions getting corrupted. Any idea how to 'fix' this? > > b) Second problem is that when I exit GPL and come back to the my Windows > (98) desktop, all my Windows are moved as if my windows resolution was > turned down. This is not really a problem but it is annoying. Any idea how > to stop it doing this? > > ps. I'm running Windows at 1280x 1024 resolution while GPL as 1027x768. > > Thanks for any/all the helps and tips in advance. > > -- > > Regards, > David Mocnay > > >

I have problem a) as well with my geforce card, & I think that it had something to do with the high-res skins for the GPLEA cars that I installed into GPL. I chose to stick with the pretty cars and live with the corrupted text. You could also try running in OpenGL which (supposedly) doesn't have this problem. Mark "straiton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1032592732.207576@teuthos... > problem a) isnt that to do with 4xFSAA in windows geforce props orsomething > > "David Mocnay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PYRi9.36862$[email hidden]... > > Hi Guys, > > I have recently got myself a new PC (Athlon 2000 Pro + GeForce4 MX440)so > > for GPL now I'd using the D3D rasterizer. Game runs absolutely awesomebut > > there are a couple of things that are annoying me ... maybe one of youhas > > seen this and can help? > > > > a) First problem is that the 'text' in the black header/footer of the > screen > > gets corrupted ... almost like it's loosing definition/resolution andover

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> > time you can't read it at all. By header/footer I mean the areas that > shows > > the framerate in the 'race' and position, laptime, best laptime etc in > > 'replay'. Also, I've notice the 'text' on the screen that shows all your > > laptimes/positions getting corrupted. Any idea how to 'fix' this? > > > > b) Second problem is that when I exit GPL and come back to the my

Windows > > (98) desktop, all my Windows are moved as if my windows resolution was > > turned down. This is not really a problem but it is annoying. Any ideahow

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> > to stop it doing this? > > > > ps. I'm running Windows at 1280x 1024 resolution while GPL as 1027x768. > > > > Thanks for any/all the helps and tips in advance. > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > David Mocnay > > > > > > > >

Once you mod the game that becomes an issue, so live with it or run openGL which is much much more stable with a Gforce then d3d, the only dowside is that you lose the hi-res in the mirrors... Your other option would be to run a Voodoo 5 but that has its own set of issues. So all in all with GPL its all about compromise...and don't count on Papyrus to release an update on a four year old game :( "Mark Roberts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d8c805c$[email hidden]... > I have problem a) as well with my geforce card, & I think that it had > something to do with the high-res skins for the GPLEA cars that Iinstalled > into GPL. I chose to stick with the pretty cars and live with thecorrupted > text. You could also try running in OpenGL which (supposedly) doesn'thave

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> this problem. > > Mark > > "straiton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1032592732.207576@teuthos... > > problem a) isnt that to do with 4xFSAA in windows geforce props or > something > > > > "David Mocnay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:PYRi9.36862$[email hidden]... > > > Hi Guys, > > > I have recently got myself a new PC (Athlon 2000 Pro + GeForce4 MX440) > so > > > for GPL now I'd using the D3D rasterizer. Game runs absolutely awesome > but > > > there are a couple of things that are annoying me ... maybe one of you > has > > > seen this and can help? > > > > > > a) First problem is that the 'text' in the black header/footer of the > > screen > > > gets corrupted ... almost like it's loosing definition/resolution and > over > > > time you can't read it at all. By header/footer I mean the areas that > > shows > > > the framerate in the 'race' and position, laptime, best laptime etc in > > > 'replay'. Also, I've notice the 'text' on the screen that shows all

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> > > laptimes/positions getting corrupted. Any idea how to 'fix' this? > > > > > > b) Second problem is that when I exit GPL and come back to the my > Windows > > > (98) desktop, all my Windows are moved as if my windows resolution was > > > turned down. This is not really a problem but it is annoying. Any idea > how > > > to stop it doing this? > > > > > > ps. I'm running Windows at 1280x 1024 resolution while GPL as

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> > > > > > Thanks for any/all the helps and tips in advance. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > David Mocnay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

David Mocnay <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PYRi9.36862$[email hidden]...

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> Hi Guys, > I have recently got myself a new PC (Athlon 2000 Pro + GeForce4 MX440) so > for GPL now I'd using the D3D rasterizer. Game runs absolutely awesome but > there are a couple of things that are annoying me ... maybe one of you has > seen this and can help? > > a) First problem is that the 'text' in the black header/footer of the screen > gets corrupted ... almost like it's loosing definition/resolution and over > time you can't read it at all. By header/footer I mean the areas that shows > the framerate in the 'race' and position, laptime, best laptime etc in > 'replay'. Also, I've notice the 'text' on the screen that shows all your > laptimes/positions getting corrupted. Any idea how to 'fix' this?

Turn off anti-aliasing > > b) Second problem is that when I exit GPL and come back to the my Windows > (98) desktop, all my Windows are moved as if my windows resolution was > turned down. This is not really a problem but it is annoying. Any idea how > to stop it doing this? Hanven't seen that problem on mine. Since there was a fix to the OpenGL rasterizer posted at racesimcentral a few months back, I use it and never looked back. In almost every case, if I can use OpenGL for a game, I do since I'm using a Geforce card.

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> > ps. I'm running Windows at 1280x 1024 resolution while GPL as 1027x768. > > Thanks for any/all the helps and tips in advance. > > -- > > Regards, > David Mocnay > > >

Thanks guys, so it seems likem the openGL rasterizer could fix 'this' problem. Though, last time I had a look at it (years ago), it did not run that well. What's the perfrormance like in GPL compared to the Direct3D one? -- Regards, David Mocnay

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> Thanks guys, so it seems likem the openGL rasterizer could fix 'this' > problem. Though, last time I had a look at it (years ago), it did not run > that well. What's the perfrormance like in GPL compared to the Direct3D > one? > > -- > Regards, > David Mocnay

I ran the opengl fix the other day and it seemed to be faster. ANd it seem to work, and the mirrors seemed to be ok. (just some recon laps so I can't say for sure...) But give it a go....use the fixed opengl file and you should be good to go. (sooner or later I gotta start practicing for my DTM league) dave henrie

You have to use the patched OpenGL rasterizer posted at racesimcentral's forum. The neat trick for the mirrors is to take the mirror.mip and make it 256x256 using winmip or whatever you prefer. It doubles the mirror resolution. As always, make a copy of your original mirror.mip first in case you have trouble. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash David Mocnay <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Thanks guys, so it seems likem the openGL rasterizer could fix 'this' > problem. Though, last time I had a look at it (years ago), it did not run > that well. What's the perfrormance like in GPL compared to the Direct3D > one? > > -- > Regards, > David Mocnay

Sounds good, where can i download the fixed opengl file ? Sid. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wtwj9.507063$me6.59884@sccrnsc01... > > "David Mocnay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks guys, so it seems likem the openGL rasterizer could fix 'this' > > problem. Though, last time I had a look at it (years ago), it did notrun

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> > that well. What's the perfrormance like in GPL compared to the Direct3D > > one? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > David Mocnay > I ran the opengl fix the other day and it seemed to be faster. ANd it > seem to work, and the mirrors seemed to be ok. (just some recon laps so I > can't say for sure...) But give it a go....use the fixed opengl file and > you should be good to go. > > (sooner or later I gotta start practicing for my DTM league) > dave henrie > >

The forum at racesimcentral -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Sid Chapple <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d9177e2$0$18870$[email hidden]... > Sounds good, where can i download the fixed opengl file ? > Sid. > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Wtwj9.507063$me6.59884@sccrnsc01... > > > > "David Mocnay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Thanks guys, so it seems likem the openGL rasterizer could fix 'this' > > > problem. Though, last time I had a look at it (years ago), it did not > run > > > that well. What's the perfrormance like in GPL compared to the Direct3D > > > one? > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > David Mocnay > > I ran the opengl fix the other day and it seemed to be faster. ANd it > > seem to work, and the mirrors seemed to be ok. (just some recon laps so I > > can't say for sure...) But give it a go....use the fixed opengl file and > > you should be good to go. > > > > (sooner or later I gotta start practicing for my DTM league) > > dave henrie > > > > > >

------------------------------------------------------------- You have to use the patched OpenGL rasterizer posted at racesimcentral's forum ------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, I'll give it a go. Though, can you point me to the patch (ie. a link) as I don't see anything in the forum. Not only that but I saw the thead that talks about this but no link to a patch. Can I download it from anywhere else? Thanks. -- Regards, David Mocnay

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37496 Must have been hiding in plain sight....... -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash David Mocnay <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LLDk9.40492$[email hidden]... > ------------------------------------------------------------- > You have to use the patched OpenGL rasterizer posted at racesimcentral's > forum > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks, I'll give it a go. Though, can you point me to the patch (ie. a > link) as I don't see anything in the forum. Not only that but I saw the > thead that talks about this but no link to a patch. Can I download it from > anywhere else? > > Thanks. > -- > > Regards, > David Mocnay > >

--------------------------------------------- > http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37496 > Must have been hiding in plain sight.......--------------------------------------------- Thanks again, but this link takes me to a thread discussing the 'patch' in the Racesimcentral forum (thread is called "Last time OGL ?"). I don't see the patch (or link to it) anywhere. If this link does have the 'patch' somewhere then where do I find it and how do I download it. Sorry for not 'getting this' but I just cannot see anything I can download. -- Regards, David Mocnay

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> --------------------------------------------- > > http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37496 > > Must have been hiding in plain sight....... > --------------------------------------------- > > Thanks again, but this link takes me to a thread discussing the 'patch' > in the Racesimcentral forum (thread is called "Last time OGL ?"). I don't > see the patch (or link to it) anywhere. > > If this link does have the 'patch' somewhere then where do I find it and > how do I download it.

:) it's right there at the bottom of the first message of that thread. an attachment called rastogl.zip. all you do is click on that and it should dload...look at the bottom of the first message. dave henrie

In article <dzRk9.222510$Jo.90108@rwcrnsc53>, [email hidden] says... ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37496 > :) it's right there at the bottom of the first message of that thread. > an attachment called rastogl.zip. all you do is click on that and it should > dload...look at the bottom of the first message.------------------------------------------------------------ Arghhh!!! I guess what you're seeing and I am seeing are not the same thing. There's no link at all ... I even did a search for rastogl in that thread just to see if I'm going blind but none of the 'finds' were a link :-( Could you possibly post the link to the rastogl.ZIP ps. This is what I see when I look at the given link to the forum: ------------------------------------------------------------ Last time OGL ? Hi GPL-friends, today I used the OpenGL-driver once again and the menues and driving on the track was OK. Then I leaved the track and CrashToDesktop with an windows error message. I looked into the details and once again I started the Disassembler to look into the programcode of rastogl.dll I found the right programcode and I changed the conditional jump command in front of it. Now all seems working right. But I want someone else to test the modified dll. Maybe if you change the tracks very often or run other software after GPL your memory runs out. This is because I patched the "mipfree"-function. My system is running with win98 and a nvidia card with drivers 29.xx (Edited on 31.07: and NVOPENGL.DLL from the 30.30 drivers.) Please backup your original rastogl.dll file. Greetings Willi ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Regards, David Mocnay

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> > In article <dzRk9.222510$Jo.90108@rwcrnsc53>, [email hidden] says... > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37496 > > > :) it's right there at the bottom of the first message of that thread. > > an attachment called rastogl.zip. all you do is click on that and it should > > dload...look at the bottom of the first message. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arghhh!!! I guess what you're seeing and I am seeing are not the same > thing. There's no link at all ... I even did a search for rastogl in that > thread just to see if I'm going blind but none of the 'finds' were a link > :-( > > Could you possibly post the link to the rastogl.ZIP

Is that a valid e-mail addy to you David ? <[email hidden]> I can send it to you if you'd like, it's less than 100kb, for some strange reason it doesn't show up when I'm using IE, but it's there in Opera....which a "little" odd to say the least :-) It's not often I come across web sites that aren't IE compatible LOL, guess it's an update to IE we don't have or something, or a security setting perhaps, but as long as it works with Opera I don't care :-) Btw, don't reply to me at mail addy shown in this post, that's a known porn spammer and it's my little way of paying him back :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

--------------------------------------- > <[email hidden]>--------------------------------------- Yes Goy, that is my e-mail address so if you could send it there I'd greaty appreciated it. Thsnks in advance. --------------------------------------- > I can send it to you if you'd like, it's less than 100kb, for some > strange reason it doesn't show up when I'm using IE, but it's there in > Opera....which a "little" odd to say the least :-)--------------------------------------- OK, that explains me not aboe to 'see' it as I'm using IE and no matter how hard I look it's just not there. -- Regards, David Mocnay

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> > --------------------------------------- > > <[email hidden]> > --------------------------------------- > Yes Goy, that is my e-mail address so if you could send it there I'd greaty > appreciated it. Thsnks in advance. > > --------------------------------------- > > I can send it to you if you'd like, it's less than 100kb, for some > > strange reason it doesn't show up when I'm using IE, but it's there in > > Opera....which a "little" odd to say the least :-) > --------------------------------------- > > OK, that explains me not aboe to 'see' it as I'm using IE and no matter how > hard I look it's just not there.

It's in the mail Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=323187 It works perfectly fine from IE as that is what I use. What have you guys been smoking down under lately? -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash David Mocnay <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <dzRk9.222510$Jo.90108@rwcrnsc53>, [email hidden] says... > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37496 > > > :) it's right there at the bottom of the first message of that thread. > > an attachment called rastogl.zip. all you do is click on that and it should > > dload...look at the bottom of the first message. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arghhh!!! I guess what you're seeing and I am seeing are not the same > thing. There's no link at all ... I even did a search for rastogl in that > thread just to see if I'm going blind but none of the 'finds' were a link > :-( > > Could you possibly post the link to the rastogl.ZIP > > ps. This is what I see when I look at the given link to the forum: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Last time OGL ? > > Hi GPL-friends, > > today I used the OpenGL-driver once again > and the menues and driving on the track was OK. > > Then I leaved the track and CrashToDesktop > with an windows error message. I looked into > the details and once again I started the Disassembler > to look into the programcode of rastogl.dll > > I found the right programcode and I changed > the conditional jump command in front of it. > > Now all seems working right. But I want someone > else to test the modified dll. > Maybe if you change the tracks very often > or run other software after GPL your memory > runs out. This is because I patched the > "mipfree"-function. > > My system is running with win98 and a nvidia > card with drivers 29.xx (Edited on 31.07: and > NVOPENGL.DLL from the 30.30 drivers.) > > Please backup your original rastogl.dll file. > > > Greetings > > Willi > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Regards, > David Mocnay

Biz wrote: > > http://forum.racesimcentral.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=323187 > > It works perfectly fine from IE as that is what I use. What have you guys been smoking down under > lately? I can't answer for the guys down under, but here up over I haven't been smoking anything, the thread shows up fine in IE but there's no attachment, in Opera which I normally use, there's no problem Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

I'm using IE and I see it. Must depend on IE version. "David Mocnay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rc%k9.41212$[email hidden]... > --------------------------------------- > > <[email hidden]> > --------------------------------------- > Yes Goy, that is my e-mail address so if you could send it there I'dgreaty > appreciated it. Thsnks in advance. > > --------------------------------------- > > I can send it to you if you'd like, it's less than 100kb, for some > > strange reason it doesn't show up when I'm using IE, but it's therein > > Opera....which a "little" odd to say the least :-) > --------------------------------------- > > OK, that explains me not aboe to 'see' it as I'm using IE and nomatter how

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> hard I look it's just not there. > > -- > > Regards, > David Mocnay > >

Forgot to add, I am able to use the standard Papyrus OpenGL driver without issues, so you might want to try that first if you haven't already. I'm using it with Win 98 gold on a ASUS socket 370 motherboard, Celeron @ 900 or so mhz, Geforce 4 Ti 4200, 30.82 drivers. I did have a problem with pauses, so I went back to D3D but the pauses were still there, and even after a reboot still had pauses in practically every game I played that night. I'm assuming the pauses were due to an unrelated systems issue. Other than that the OGL driver worked flawlessly, and I noticed that there were transparent windows and other features visible with the OGL driver that were opaque in D3D. As soon as I get the pausing issue sorted out I am going back to OGL. "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:an2qg7$antth$[email hidden]... > I'm using IE and I see it. Must depend on IE version. >

Haqsau wrote: > > I'm using IE and I see it. Must depend on IE version. Prolly some security setting or something, I checked last night on my home PC again, and it worked in IE there, both Comps run WinXP PRO with all updates installed, I might have messed around with some settings on my PC here at work as I need to use IE here every so often, at home I've never used IE since I installed WinXP and Opera I'm too lazy to compare settings though ) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--