LFS and Radeon

OK -- Now that I've re-installed my Radeon Drivers and did some other tweaks, LFS now freezes up as soon as you enter a menu. I recall the early versions of the LFS demo didn't work on Radeons until you did some sort of tweak. (I believe that something had to be de-activated). Can anyone bring me back up to "speed" on what I have to do to get it to work with my Radeon 8500LE again? (Yes, I have the latest patch installed for LFS). Thanks! Bert

OK -- Now that I've re-installed my Radeon Drivers and did some other tweaks, LFS now freezes up as soon as you enter a menu. I recall the early versions of the LFS demo didn't work on Radeons until you did some sort of tweak. (I believe that something had to be de-activated). Can anyone bring me back up to "speed" on what I have to do to get it to work with my Radeon 8500LE again? (Yes, I have the latest patch installed for LFS). Thanks! Bert

Using a Google search, I found that Hardware T&L has to be turned off in order to run the LFS Demo on a Radeon. Well, for anyone reading through my other thread here today (about an extremely low 3dMark2001 score), that led me to a "Eureka!" moment. Since I couldn't figure out how to re-enable T&L, I used GoBack (Thank God for that utility!) to revert my hard drive back to where it was before LFS stopped working. That meant going to a point before I re-installed the VIA 4 in 1 drivers and the updated video drivers. Sure enough -- Now LFS worked again, but my 3D Mark score was below 4000 again. Of course, the reason for that is -- If LFS is working, that means Hardware T&L is disabled, which naturally results in a very low 3DMark score. DUH! So, my question is -- How do I enable/disable hardware T&L on my Radeon 8500LE? I know that I disabled it somehow in order to get LFS to work about 6 weeks ago. However, for the life of me, I can't recall how I did it. I have Rage 3D Tweaker installed, but I don't see an option for Hardware T&L anywhere. Can anyone help? Thanks! Bert BRH wrote:

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> OK -- Now that I've re-installed my Radeon Drivers and did some other > tweaks, LFS now freezes up as soon as you enter a menu. I recall the > early versions of the LFS demo didn't work on Radeons until you did some > sort of tweak. (I believe that something had to be de-activated). > > Can anyone bring me back up to "speed" on what I have to do to get it to > work with my Radeon 8500LE again? (Yes, I have the latest patch > installed for LFS). > > Thanks! > > Bert

Using a Google search, I found that Hardware T&L has to be turned off in order to run the LFS Demo on a Radeon. Well, for anyone reading through my other thread here today (about an extremely low 3dMark2001 score), that led me to a "Eureka!" moment. Since I couldn't figure out how to re-enable T&L, I used GoBack (Thank God for that utility!) to revert my hard drive back to where it was before LFS stopped working. That meant going to a point before I re-installed the VIA 4 in 1 drivers and the updated video drivers. Sure enough -- Now LFS worked again, but my 3D Mark score was below 4000 again. Of course, the reason for that is -- If LFS is working, that means Hardware T&L is disabled, which naturally results in a very low 3DMark score. DUH! So, my question is -- How do I enable/disable hardware T&L on my Radeon 8500LE? I know that I disabled it somehow in order to get LFS to work about 6 weeks ago. However, for the life of me, I can't recall how I did it. I have Rage 3D Tweaker installed, but I don't see an option for Hardware T&L anywhere. Can anyone help? Thanks! Bert

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> OK -- Now that I've re-installed my Radeon Drivers and did some other > tweaks, LFS now freezes up as soon as you enter a menu. I recall the > early versions of the LFS demo didn't work on Radeons until you did some > sort of tweak. (I believe that something had to be de-activated). > Can anyone bring me back up to "speed" on what I have to do to get it to > work with my Radeon 8500LE again? (Yes, I have the latest patch > installed for LFS). > Thanks! > Bert

I don't know, nothing anyone has suggested to me has made the slightest of difference. I get 1fps wether in menus or trying to play the game. I would relly like to play this game, but so far have been dissapointed. :( Tsunami On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:52:37 GMT, BRH <"bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com> wrote:

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>OK -- Now that I've re-installed my Radeon Drivers and did some other >tweaks, LFS now freezes up as soon as you enter a menu. I recall the >early versions of the LFS demo didn't work on Radeons until you did some >sort of tweak. (I believe that something had to be de-activated). > >Can anyone bring me back up to "speed" on what I have to do to get it to >work with my Radeon 8500LE again? (Yes, I have the latest patch >installed for LFS). > >Thanks! > >Bert > > >

Try either Raid on Tweaker or Radeonator. Both have options for H T&L. This made no difference to my copy of LFS when I toggled it myself. Tsunami On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 03:11:56 GMT, BRH <"bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com> wrote:

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>Using a Google search, I found that Hardware T&L has to be turned off in >order to run the LFS Demo on a Radeon. Well, for anyone reading through my >other thread here today (about an extremely low 3dMark2001 score), that led >me to a "Eureka!" moment. Since I couldn't figure out how to re-enable >T&L, I used GoBack (Thank God for that utility!) to revert my hard drive >back to where it was before LFS stopped working. That meant going to a >point before I re-installed the VIA 4 in 1 drivers and the updated video >drivers. Sure enough -- Now LFS worked again, but my 3D Mark score was >below 4000 again. > >Of course, the reason for that is -- If LFS is working, that means Hardware >T&L is disabled, which naturally results in a very low 3DMark score. DUH! > >So, my question is -- How do I enable/disable hardware T&L on my Radeon >8500LE? I know that I disabled it somehow in order to get LFS to work about >6 weeks ago. However, for the life of me, I can't recall how I did it. I >have Rage 3D Tweaker installed, but I don't see an option for Hardware T&L >anywhere. Can anyone help? > >Thanks! > >Bert > > > >BRH wrote: > >> OK -- Now that I've re-installed my Radeon Drivers and did some other >> tweaks, LFS now freezes up as soon as you enter a menu. I recall the >> early versions of the LFS demo didn't work on Radeons until you did some >> sort of tweak. (I believe that something had to be de-activated). >> >> Can anyone bring me back up to "speed" on what I have to do to get it to >> work with my Radeon 8500LE again? (Yes, I have the latest patch >> installed for LFS). >> >> Thanks! >> >> Bert

"BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > So, my question is -- How do I enable/disable hardware T&L on my Radeon > 8500LE? I know that I disabled it somehow in order to get LFS to workabout > 6 weeks ago. However, for the life of me, I can't recall how I did it. I > have Rage 3D Tweaker installed, but I don't see an option for Hardware T&L > anywhere. Can anyone help? In Rage3D Tweak this is called 'TCL Hardware' (you'll find it in the '3D DirectX' tab). Besides that, I think you need to restart your PC after you change this setting. Ice D