F12002 Controller setup.

I tried the settings recomended up below, but I ended up with some major kicking back and forth from my MOMO. My first question is when you say to set the steering axis to 50% which setting are you talking about, The rate or the sensitivity? My second question any ideas on whats causing this with my wheel? Even with FF on low it bucks like a Rodeo Bronc and puts me in the wall ASAP. Its kind of like the wheel is real tight in the center but as soon as I move it of it frees up and takes off. MadDAWG

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I tried the settings recomended up below, but I ended up with some major > kicking back and forth from my MOMO. > > My first question is when you say to set the steering axis to 50% which > setting are you talking about, The rate or the sensitivity? The 50% refers to the AXIS settings. In the controller section, click on the first joystick icon. Usually the X axis is the steering. Choose the slider that coresponds to that axis and move it to 50%. The speed sensitivity, which is on the first controller screen(IF I remember correctly) should be set to zero. {if you set the steering axis to zero you probably wouldn't have any steering at all} > > My second question any ideas on whats causing this with my wheel? Evenwith > FF on low it bucks like a Rodeo Bronc and puts me in the wall ASAP. Itskind > of like the wheel is real tight in the center but as soon as I move it ofit > frees up and takes off. in the controllers section are icons for the keyboard, joystick 1, joystick 2, & a 3rd joystick Icon. This is the Force Feedback section. In there is a slider for setting your FF effects & two drop down menus for wheel/joystick and the amount of FF effects. I choose not to get the Full effects but rather just High. And the slider must be in the NEGATIVE(left of center) section(for MOMO wheels). I have my FF slider about -45 to -60. Anymore and the wheel lurches from overstrong FF movements. With those settings the Wheel holds the front wheels wonderfully. I can carve a turn like the Curve Grande at Monza and feel the front tires holding the road. > > MadDAWG >Dave(dawg)henrie

> in the controllers section are icons for the keyboard, joystick1, > joystick 2, & a 3rd joystick Icon. This is the Force Feedback section.In > there is a slider for setting your FF effects & two drop down menus for > wheel/joystick and the amount of FF effects. I choose not to get the Full > effects but rather just High. And the slider must be in the NEGATIVE(left > of center) section(for MOMO wheels). I have my FF slider about -45to -60. > Anymore and the wheel lurches from overstrong FF movements. With those > settings the Wheel holds the front wheels wonderfully. I can carve a turn > like the Curve Grande at Monza and feel the front tires holding the road. > > > > > Dave(dawg)henrie Well thats what I thought, but what are the settings on the tab that looks like a arrow pointing down to a hockey puck for? The steering on mine is set to 25% and to be honest at this point I can't tell a differance when adjusting it. As far as the FF goes actually uping the overall setting to high (I had mine on low) helped a little, but its still not very good. Did you edit any of the values in the *.plr file? MadDAWG

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Well thats what I thought, but what are the settings on the tab thatlooks > like a arrow pointing down to a hockey puck for? The steering on mineis > set to 25% and to be honest at this point I can't tell a differancewhen > adjusting it. I believe those are the digital controller rates, which are only used for keyboards and gamepads. > As far as the FF goes actually uping the overall setting to high (Ihad mine > on low) helped a little, but its still not very good. Did you edit anyof > the values in the *.plr file? I think the overall setting only affects effects level (curbs, vibration, etc.). The strength of the steering feedback is controlled by the slider. You can do better with manual editing, but I'm hesitant to make any recommendations since everybody seems to like it a little different.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:29:30 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> My first question is when you say to set the steering axis to 50% which >> setting are you talking about, The rate or the sensitivity? > > The 50% refers to the AXIS settings. In the controller section, >click on the first joystick icon. Usually the X axis is the steering. >Choose the slider that coresponds to that axis and move it to 50%. The >speed sensitivity, which is on the first controller screen(IF I remember >correctly) should be set to zero. {if you set the steering axis to zero you >probably wouldn't have any steering at all}

Do you mean the Axis sensitivity? When I set it up 50%, it gets really twitchy on me. I set the speed sensitivity to zero. -- karkrazy AT softhome DOT net http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

> > Do you mean the Axis sensitivity? When I set it up 50%, it gets > really twitchy on me. I set the speed sensitivity to zero. Yes set the X axis on controller 1 to 50%.(IF that is the controller axis assigned to your wheel) THEN in your individual setups....lower the steering lock from usually around 20 degrees to 12 degrees. That should take care of the twitchyness. You will have a little difficulty getting out of the pits at certain tracks...(that's what they made reverse gear for) > > -- > karkrazy AT softhome DOT net > http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

> I believe those are the digital controller rates, which are only used > for keyboards and gamepads. Thats what I was thinking since I couldn't feel achange when playing with them. > I think the overall setting only affects effects level (curbs, > vibration, etc.). The strength of the steering feedback is controlled > by the slider. You can do better with manual editing, but I'm hesitant > to make any recommendations since everybody seems to like it a little > different. At this point I'm just trying to figure out were this bucking is coming from at this point in time. Guess I'll go back to the original settings and change on at a time till I find the one that "did" it. MadDAWG

> I believe those are the digital controller rates, which are only used > for keyboards and gamepads. No, the "Speed Sensitivity" slider is located in there...it has a major effect on wheel handling. Default is 75% and it really should be on 0% for a wheel.

> Do you mean the Axis sensitivity? When I set it up 50%, it gets > really twitchy on me. I set the speed sensitivity to zero. Yeah, 50% (or full linear) might be a bit twitchy for some wheels. Try 25% or lower and make sure the steering lock in your car setup isn't any higher than it needs to be to take the corners properly.

> At this point I'm just trying to figure out were this bucking is comingfrom > at this point in time. Guess I'll go back to the original settings and > change on at a time till I find the one that "did" it. > > MadDAWG > I get the LURCHING motion from time to time when the FF effects are turned up to high. Basically it is a trial and error to run some laps, tune DOWN the FF slider, then run some more until the lurch goes away. I have so many dang mods on right now, one is still kinda heavy on the steering which seems to invite the lurching motion. Someday I'm gonna have to sit down and clean up my installs...get all the tracks setup properly etc. I've been dloading, testing, and moving on to the next 'OOOH LOOK-AT-THAT' so I'd better get sensible and clean everything up. dave henrie

Actually turning up the effects from low to high helped it some. At this point I'm not really sure what the rot cause is, but adjusting the -100 to 100 strength slider effects it, but its still there. Its funny as hell watching the drivers head smack back and forth. Reminds me of when a top fuel dragster goes into to tire shake. MadDAWG

try settings in -40 to -60 range... dh "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Actually turning up the effects from low to high helped it some. At this > point I'm not really sure what the rot cause is, but adjusting the -100 to > 100 strength slider effects it, but its still there. Its funny as hell > watching the drivers head smack back and forth. Reminds me of when a top > fuel dragster goes into to tire shake. > > MadDAWG > >

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HOpk9.209581$Jo.81078@rwcrnsc53... > try settings in -40 to -60 range... > > dh I have. :( MadDAWG

Whoops, forgot about that one. The other settings on that screen are for digital controllers though. "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ams4sp$8n8kv$[email hidden]... > > No, the "Speed Sensitivity" slider is located in there...it has amajor > effect on wheel handling. Default is 75% and it really should be on0% for > a wheel. > >