XP CDROM problems

OK, maybe some of you have seen this. I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not accessible. It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a 98 boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into regular XP mode, nothing. The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all the patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the new one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) Lannie PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives I have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

Just a shot but have you tried putting the CDRom on the same IDE controller that the CDRW was on? If it works it still wouldn't cure the long term problem, but would get you by for now. MadDAWG

Another thought. Just for kicks, try booting with a cd in the drive and see if it helps. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not accessible. > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a 98 > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into > regular XP mode, nothing. > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all the > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the new > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > Lannie > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives I > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > >

Yes, I've tried every Salve/master combination on both controllers. It's a known bug in XP, but non eof the current fixes works for me. "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just a shot but have you tried putting the CDRom on the same IDEcontroller

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> that the CDRW was on? If it works it still wouldn't cure the long term > problem, but would get you by for now. > > > MadDAWG > >

Done that..doesn't work. "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:amsl9b$8l7qv$[email hidden]... > Another thought. Just for kicks, try booting with a cd in the drive andsee

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> if it helps. > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > > > "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not

accessible. > > > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a98

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> > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into > > regular XP mode, nothing. > > > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all > the > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the > new > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > > Lannie > > > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives

I > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > > > > > >

"Lannie Schafroth" (snippage) > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until thenew > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > Lannie You can play Nr2k2 OFFline with a nocd patch available at theuspits and other places. Cain't help ya with the XP problems since I'm still using the out-of-favor win98SE. dave henrie

I don't ever use NR2k2 offline. :( It's only use is online.... "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RYlk9.399655$[email hidden]...

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> > "Lannie Schafroth" > (snippage) > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the > new > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > > Lannie > You can play Nr2k2 OFFline with a nocd patch available at theuspits

and > other places. Cain't help ya with the XP problems since I'm still usingthe > out-of-favor win98SE. > dave henrie > >

> It's a known bug in XP, You'd thing a service pack would fix that kind of stuff instead of busting crackers. MadDAWG

My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering. If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I would look there first. It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors from the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries). Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's. This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as possible and doesn't screw with stuff. -Larry "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not accessible. > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a 98 > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into > regular XP mode, nothing. > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all

the > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until thenew

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> one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > Lannie > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives I > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > >

What is this known bug you are talking about, I've NEVER seen any mention of it anywhere? You may just have a cdrom drive that can't deal with the securom technology on the disk. And your comment about never running N2002 off-line, how did you establish your baseline setups b4 getting in everyones way on-line? Anyone with any respect for others must run some off-line at least when it was new just to get used to the driveing model and new setups, etc... -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Lannie Schafroth <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yes, I've tried every Salve/master combination on both controllers. It's a > known bug in XP, but non eof the current fixes works for me. > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just a shot but have you tried putting the CDRom on the same IDE > controller > > that the CDRW was on? If it works it still wouldn't cure the long term > > problem, but would get you by for now. > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >

Sounds similar to the problems people were having with Nero, before the 5.5 version. It was adding Registry entries that hosed the drives, and the solution was to remove those entries. I found info on this at Microsofts site I believe. The entries are something about upper limits and lower limits. Buy now that I think about it, the drives wouldn't even show up in Windows Explorer with that problem. Glen "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yes, I've tried every Salve/master combination on both controllers. It'sa

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> known bug in XP, but non eof the current fixes works for me. > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just a shot but have you tried putting the CDRom on the same IDE > controller > > that the CDRW was on? If it works it still wouldn't cure the long term > > problem, but would get you by for now. > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >

I had the same problems from Nero until they released a version compatible with XP. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gypk9.28436$[email hidden]... > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering. > > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I > would look there first. > > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directorsfrom

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> the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries). > > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's. > > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as possible > and doesn't screw with stuff. > > -Larry > > "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not

accessible. > > > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a98

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> > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into > > regular XP mode, nothing. > > > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all > the > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the > new > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > > Lannie > > > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives

I > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > > > > > >

I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR software, tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller, uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great in Safe Mode but not in a regular mode. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gypk9.28436$[email hidden]... > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering. > > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I > would look there first. > > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directorsfrom

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> the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries). > > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's. > > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as possible > and doesn't screw with stuff. > > -Larry > > "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not

accessible. > > > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a98

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> > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into > > regular XP mode, nothing. > > > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all > the > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the > new > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > > Lannie > > > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives

I > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > > > > > >

If your drive works in Safe Mode but not Normal Mode, it's obviously a driver issue. We've seen in our shop some CDRW's won't work with a hard drive slaved to them, but ONLY on Intel D850E boards. They work fine if a CD's slaved to them. I see that you've "tried every slave/master combination, but no luck." I'd like to know about the "known bug" you mention; I install XP on nearly a daily basis and except for the aforementioned CDRW/CD problem, it's worked just fine. Gunner "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d930f9e$[email hidden]... > I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR software, > tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller, > uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great inSafe

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> Mode but not in a regular mode. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:gypk9.28436$[email hidden]... > > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering. > > > > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I > > would look there first. > > > > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors > from > > the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries). > > > > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's. > > > > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as

possible

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> > and doesn't screw with stuff. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > > > > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I

am > > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X workedgreat. > > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not > accessible. > > > > > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insertthe > > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot witha > 98 > > > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I bootinto > > > regular XP mode, nothing. > > > > > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Triedall > > the > > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > > > > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW untilthe > > new > > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > > > > Lannie > > > > > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other sparedrives

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> I > > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > >

If your drive works in Safe Mode but not Normal Mode, it's obviously a driver issue. We've seen in our shop some CDRW's won't work with a hard drive slaved to them, but ONLY on Intel D850E boards. They work fine if a CD's slaved to them. I see that you've "tried every slave/master combination, but no luck." I'd like to know about the "known bug" you mention; I install XP on nearly a daily basis and except for the aforementioned CDRW/CD problem, it's worked just fine. Gunner > I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR software, > tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller, > uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great in Safe

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> Mode but not in a regular mode. > > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering. > > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I > > would look there first. > > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors > from > > the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries). > > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's. > > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as

possible

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> > and doesn't***with stuff. > > -Larry > > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I

am > > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. > > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not > accessible. > > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the > > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a > 98 > > > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into > > > regular XP mode, nothing. > > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all > > the > > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the > > new > > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > Lannie > > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives > I > > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

Hmmm.... You still have something interfering there, but I don't know what it is... Have you installed any Microsoft "Hot Fixes" related to CDR drives? If so, try removing them. -Larry "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d930f9e$[email hidden]... > I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR software, > tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller, > uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great inSafe

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> Mode but not in a regular mode. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:gypk9.28436$[email hidden]... > > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering. > > > > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I > > would look there first. > > > > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors > from > > the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries). > > > > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's. > > > > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as

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> > and doesn't screw with stuff. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > > > > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I

am > > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X workedgreat. > > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not > accessible. > > > > > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insertthe > > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot witha > 98 > > > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I bootinto > > > regular XP mode, nothing. > > > > > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Triedall > > the > > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > > > > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW untilthe > > new > > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > > > > Lannie > > > > > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other sparedrives

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> I > > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Here's an idea... Create another user on your machine, and log in as that user. See if the CD-ROM is accessible. If it is, then you know it is something specific to the original profile, and should narrow down the search dramatically. -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5VZk9.34436$[email hidden]... > Hmmm.... You still have something interfering there, but I don't knowwhat > it is... > > Have you installed any Microsoft "Hot Fixes" related to CDR drives? Ifso,

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> try removing them. > > -Larry > > "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3d930f9e$[email hidden]... > > I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR

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> > tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller, > > uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great in > Safe > > Mode but not in a regular mode. > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:gypk9.28436$[email hidden]... > > > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering. > > > > > > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently

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> > > would look there first. > > > > > > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors > > from > > > the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries). > > > > > > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's. > > > > > > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as > possible > > > and doesn't screw with stuff. > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > "Lannie Schafroth" <[email hidden]> wrote in

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> > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > > > > > > > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I > am > > > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked > great. > > > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not > > accessible. > > > > > > > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert > the > > > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot

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> a > > 98 > > > > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot > into > > > > regular XP mode, nothing. > > > > > > > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried > all > > > the > > > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until > the > > > new > > > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > > > > > > > > Lannie > > > > > > > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare > drives > > I > > > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi, Also try posting your question on microsoft.public.windowsxp.games, they have some really good tech people there that should be able to sort out your problem. In message <[email hidden]>, Lannie Schafroth <[email hidden]> writes

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>OK, maybe some of you have seen this. > >I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am >using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great. >However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not accessible. > >It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the >disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a 98 >boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into >regular XP mode, nothing. > >The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all the >patches on the newsgroups. Nothing. > >Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the new >one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original) > >Lannie > >PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives I >have lying around. Same thing on all of them. > >

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