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F12002 Downshifting

5 posts by 5 people · 05 Oct 2002 05:37 UTC - 06 Oct 2002 18:44 UTC

Simon H 05 Oct 2002 05:37 UTC#95356
Hi all OK, so surely in an F1 car the gearchange system will match the revs to the lower gear, as opposed to the 'rear wheel spinout' method employed in F12002? Downshifting should not be so fraught with danger? Of course the opposite happens in LFS, where you will accelerate if you downshift from standstill from top gear to bottom - thats not rev matching, it obviously just blips the throttle. Any tips? -Simon H P.S. There are still some elements of GP4 that I prefer although they are almost all graphics (image) related. (Not the horribly ineffecient rendering engine though!)
> OK, so surely in an F1 car the gearchange system will match the revs tothe > lower gear, as opposed to the 'rear wheel spinout' method employed in > F12002? Downshifting should not be so fraught with danger? Of course the > opposite happens in LFS, where you will accelerate if you downshift from > standstill from top gear to bottom - thats not rev matching, it obviously > just blips the throttle. It's a well known fact that you have to change down quite late into the braking zone in an F1 car (CARTs too for that matter) I know it's a bit tricky at first when you're used to GPL and having to change down relatively slowly but remember in an F1 car you can change down about 5 gears in a second or so.
These cars have a lot of horsepower and a very high compression. If you change down too soon, you are asking the engine to reduce revs harshly, and the huigh compression will act as a brake. In harsh braking the weight transfers to the front via centrifigal force leaving the weight holding the rear wheels on the track to be very low, hence wheel lockup. "Simon H" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all > > OK, so surely in an F1 car the gearchange system will match the revs tothe
Quoted text (12 lines)> lower gear, as opposed to the 'rear wheel spinout' method employed in > F12002? Downshifting should not be so fraught with danger? Of course the > opposite happens in LFS, where you will accelerate if you downshift from > standstill from top gear to bottom - thats not rev matching, it obviously > just blips the throttle. > > Any tips? > > -Simon H > > P.S. There are still some elements of GP4 that I prefer although they are > almost all graphics (image) related. (Not the horribly ineffecient
rendering > engine though!) > >
"Simon H" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all > > OK, so surely in an F1 car the gearchange system will match the revs tothe > lower gear, as opposed to the 'rear wheel spinout' method employed in > F12002? Downshifting should not be so fraught with danger? A real F1 car will try to match the revs, but can't do it always. Example of it going wrong is Mika Hakinen during the 1999(?) Italian Grand Prix at the first chicane. Gavin
"Gavin Thomas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:anphms$354$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> "Simon H" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all > > > > OK, so surely in an F1 car the gearchange system will match the revs to > the > > lower gear, as opposed to the 'rear wheel spinout' method employed in > > F12002? Downshifting should not be so fraught with danger? > > A real F1 car will try to match the revs, but can't do it always. > > Example of it going wrong is Mika Hakinen during the 1999(?) Italian Grand > Prix at the first chicane. > > Gavin >
Except that was a manual downshift as I recall, and HE made the mistake of going all the way down to 1st gear. If he had not lost track of his downchanges and stopped at 2nd, there would have been no spin and he most likely would have gone on to win the race. dave henrie

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