Get it at http://www.gplea.org in the cars section
rms
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GPLEA releases updated BRM model for GPL
Roger Squires announced that GPLEA had released its updated BRM car model for Grand Prix Legends, which drew praise for the cockpit and mirrors. A quip about the BRM driving like a truck was taken by Jan Verschueren as an insult to the add-on, sparking a squabble, especially with Conga, before Jan apologised.
Automated summary.
Get it at http://www.gplea.org in the cars section
rms
Wow, that is amazing work ! The car looks great, the cockpit is awesome and
i love those dirty mirrors. Many thanks to those involved.
Cheers Phil
"Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Get it at http://www.gplea.org in the cars section
>
> rms
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>
>
Wow, that is amazing work ! The car looks great, the***pit is awesome and
i love those dirty mirrors. Many thanks to those involved.
Cheers Phil
> Get it at http://www.gplea.org in the cars section
> rms
"Phil Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Wow, that is amazing work ! The car looks great, the cockpit is awesomeand
> i love those dirty mirrors. Many thanks to those involved.
> Cheers Phil
It's an amazing piece of work, well worth the wait.
I've never been a fan of the BRM but getting the new model motivated be to
try a couple of laps at Nurby and my first full lap knocked nearly 15
seconds off my MOG!
I had a similar gain when the Honda was released, but I really do hate that
b***y thing!
The mirrors really do look like they've just been wiped with a greasy cloth,
but I think it restricts the view a bit too much. The subtle fingerprints on
the 23v Ferrari were spot on imo.
Malc.
"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I had a similar gain when the Honda was released, but I really do hatethat
> b***y thing!
Footnote: I hate _driving_ the Honda. The GPLEA update is fab ;-)
Malc.
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:57:25 GMT, "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>Get it at http://www.gplea.org in the cars section
>
>rms
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>
Does it still drive like an 18 wheeler? :)
"jgd" wrote...
> <snip>
> Does it still drive like an 18 wheeler? :)
Why don't you produce a game add-on to laugh at?
Jan.
=---
Jan Verschueren wrote:
He dissed the BRM, not the add-on. Geez!
l8er
ronny
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> "jgd" wrote... > >><snip> >>Does it still drive like an 18 wheeler? :) > > > Why don't you produce a game add-on to laugh at?Don't sweat it... Simers are often socially inept. Grown men addicted to a
plastic wheel, locked up in a little room somewhere.
"> > Why don't you produce a game add-on to laugh at?
>
> He dissed the BRM, not the add-on. Geez!
>
> l8er
> ronny
>
"Conga" wrote...
> Don't sweat it... Simers are often socially inept. Grown men
> addicted to a plastic wheel, locked up in a little room
> somewhere.
Thank you for your opinion. Got anything useful to add as well?
Jan.
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"Ronald Stoehr" wrote...
> <snip>
> He dissed the BRM, not the add-on. Geez!
Indeed Ronny, implying releasing updated graphics for the BRM was silly. At
least that's how I interpreted it.
Jan.
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"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Ronald Stoehr" wrote...
> > <snip>
> > He dissed the BRM, not the add-on. Geez!
>
> Indeed Ronny, implying releasing updated graphics for the BRM was silly.At
> least that's how I interpreted it.
I added the footnote to my own post about the Honda precisely because
someone might mis-interpret it to think I didn't like the Honda update.
Frankly, I think you overreacted. Why would you assume that someone would
think that a graphics update (good or bad) would affect the handling of any
car in gpl, when it's pretty well known that there are no 'extra' cars
publicly available for gpl. It was just a joke, and a funny one too.
I reckon the new BRM has reduced the wheel count to around 13 or 14, based
on my time at the 'ring ;-)
Malc.
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote on 13
Oct 2002:
> "jgd" wrote...
>> <snip>
>> Does it still drive like an 18 wheeler? :)
>
> Why don't you produce a game add-on to laugh at?
(Done - GPLStat. So I'm immune from that one!)
Eh? I don't see any criticism of the addon from jgd there, only of
the BRM itself - and the GPLEA heavn't changed any physics, have
they?
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"Malc" wrote...
> <snip>
> Frankly, I think you overreacted.
It pushed my button, for sure. I happen to like driving the BRM in GPL, but
I'll admit it's too slow to use in serious competition.
It appeared to me the poster did not think the BRM worthy of a graphics
update, thereby devaluating the effort of the GPLEA team.
Anyhow, I don't think my reprisal was over the top, actually. If that's over
the top people in here have gotten touchy over the last week or so. <g>
Jan.
=---
"David Buttery" wrote...
> <snip>
> Eh? I don't see any criticism of the addon from jgd
> there, only of the BRM itself - and the GPLEA heavn't
> changed any physics, have they?
I assume this jgd character is a big cheese over on the webforums with all
the people jumping to his defence over here? ;-)
Jan.
=---
The smell is coming from his lucky socks :)
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "David Buttery" wrote... > > <snip> > > Eh? I don't see any criticism of the addon from jgd > > there, only of the BRM itself - and the GPLEA heavn't > > changed any physics, have they? > > I assume this jgd character is a big cheese over on the webforums with all > the people jumping to his defence over here? ;-) > > Jan. > =--- > >
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Conga" wrote...
> > Don't sweat it... Simers are often socially inept. Grown men
> > addicted to a plastic wheel, locked up in a little room
> > somewhere.
>
> Thank you for your opinion. Got anything useful to add as well?
you didn't... why should he?
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote on 13
Oct 2002:
> I assume this jgd character is a big cheese over on the webforums
> with all the people jumping to his defence over here? ;-)
Actually I've never heard of him (or her, or them, or it) - I just
think you were a little unfair in your original comment.
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"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have no idea who he is and it doesn't matter. Some people like the BRM,
some don't. I prefer the Cooper myself, which is one of the less updated
cars, and until a month or so ago I was using the plain jane original one.
As a personal sacrifice, however, I'm reluctantly forcing myself to drive
the terrible, terrible Lotus all season in UKGPL ;-)
I had some glitches with other Lotus updates so I've stuck with the 1.02
GPLEA one. I remember thinking it looked amazing when it came out, but
compared to the latest ones it's really basic, but still way better than
anything I could do myself ;-)
I don't think it's polite to criticise any of the effort people put into the
gpl community in whatever form it takes, but inevitably some stuff is
better, and some people work harder, but it's pretty much all free, so in
value for money terms, it's all equal, and so are the people. Except for
railriders, obviously ;-)
Malc.
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> "David Buttery" wrote... > > <snip> > > Eh? I don't see any criticism of the addon from jgd > > there, only of the BRM itself - and the GPLEA heavn't > > changed any physics, have they? > > I assume this jgd character is a big cheese over on the webforums with all > the people jumping to his defence over here? ;-)"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Malc" wrote...
> > <snip>
> > Frankly, I think you overreacted.
>
> It pushed my button, for sure. I happen to like driving the BRM in GPL,but
> I'll admit it's too slow to use in serious competition.
>
> It appeared to me the poster did not think the BRM worthy of a graphics
> update, thereby devaluating the effort of the GPLEA team.
>
> Anyhow, I don't think my reprisal was over the top, actually. If that'sover
> the top people in here have gotten touchy over the last week or so. <g>
Yeah kids are always edgy on the run up to Christmas ;-)
Malc.
"Conga" wrote...
> The smell is coming from his lucky socks :)
Just stay under the rock... it's safer there.
Jan.
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"nobody special" wrote...
> <snip>
> you didn't... why should he?
Another faceless expert on my psyche, great.
Jan.
=---
"jgd" wrote...
> <snip>
> Does it still drive like an 18 wheeler? :)
By general consensus it was determined I've misinterpreted your comment and
that therefore my initial response was unwarranted and over the top.
I take it back and apologise. Your opinion on the BRM noted and respected.
Jan.
=---
>"Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Don't sweat it... Simers are often socially inept. Grown men addicted to a
> plastic wheel, locked up in a little room somewhere.
pffffffft, at least be exact. It's often metal and carbon-based wheels! <G>
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> > "jgd" wrote... > > <snip> > > Does it still drive like an 18 wheeler? :) > > By general consensus it was determined I've misinterpreted your comment and > that therefore my initial response was unwarranted and over the top. > > I take it back and apologise. Your opinion on the BRM noted and respected.> I take it back and apologise. Your opinion on the BRM noted and respected.
>
> Jan.
Call that an argument? I want my fiver back.
"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I take it back and apologise. Your opinion on the BRM noted andrespected.
> >
> > Jan.
>
> Call that an argument? I want my fiver back.
>
That WAS an argument !
Elrikk
I don't care about your psyche. Your a nobody. Arrogant but a nobody anyway.
I doubt you can read much english anyway or you would have understood the
underlying humor in his post.
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted text (10 lines)
> "nobody special" wrote... > > <snip> > > you didn't... why should he? > > Another faceless expert on my psyche, great. > > Jan. > =--- > >"Conga" wrote...
> I don't care about your psyche. Your a nobody. Arrogant but
> a nobody anyway.
Care to list your accomplishments in life? Care to explain why you feel
superior to me? -I'm just your average guy getting by, no question, but I
ain't too proud to admit it. Who are you to hide behind a pseudonym and
judge my life/persona?
> I doubt you can read much english anyway or you would have
> understood the underlying humor in his post.
I think I do fine... how's your Dutch? Or French? Or German? Who are you to
criticize my English in a post containing "your" instead of "you're"?
I'll tell you what you are: a troll, and a mediocre one at that. I backed
out of my original reply because I don't want bad blood hanging around
between myself and other regular posters.
You, I don't mind about... take your best shot.
Jan.
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"Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I don't care about your psyche. Your a nobody. Arrogant but a nobodyanyway.
> I doubt you can read much english anyway or you would have understood the
> underlying humor in his post.
Well my first language is English & I have completely missed the 'underlying
humour' in your post.
ime BRM drivers are usually a pretty light-hearted bunch, but having raced
the damned thing myself on occasion, I can appreciate they may have alot of
built up anger ;-)
What's your excuse then?
Malc.
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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to
Conga's not a troll, and neither are you. There's enough fools out there
playing GP4 already without GPLers having a go at each other.
Malc.
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> "Conga" wrote... > > I don't care about your psyche. Your a nobody. Arrogant but > > a nobody anyway. > > Care to list your accomplishments in life? Care to explain why you feel > superior to me? -I'm just your average guy getting by, no question, but I > ain't too proud to admit it. Who are you to hide behind a pseudonym and > judge my life/persona? > > > I doubt you can read much english anyway or you would have > > understood the underlying humor in his post. > > I think I do fine... how's your Dutch? Or French? Or German? Who are youQuoted text (7 lines)
> criticize my English in a post containing "your" instead of "you're"? > > I'll tell you what you are: a troll, and a mediocre one at that. I backed > out of my original reply because I don't want bad blood hanging around > between myself and other regular posters. > > You, I don't mind about... take your best shot."Malc" wrote...
> <snip>
> Conga's not a troll, and neither are you. There's enough fools
> out there playing GP4 already without GPLers having a go at
> each other.
Eh... I play GP4, Malc. Not saying I'm immune to it's shortcomings, but I do
play it. <g>
Conga is being an ass about things, IMO, and giving a damn good impression
of being a troll. He either eats the nobody and English comment like I ate
the BRM comment or continues to be on the wrong side with me.
Jan.
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:08:21 -0400, "elrikk" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
I came here for an argument, not an argument!
Jason
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>"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:bKlq9.3956$[email hidden]... >> > I take it back and apologise. Your opinion on the BRM noted and >respected. >> > >> > Jan. >> >> Call that an argument? I want my fiver back. >> > >That WAS an argument !>"Conga" <[email hidden]> wrote
> I don't care about your psyche. Your a nobody. Arrogant but a nobodyanyway.
I think somebody's searching for a fight here 8)
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Conga wrote:
> I don't care about your psyche. Your a nobody. Arrogant but a nobody anyway.
What's this? I have an alter-ego here? :-)
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:17:37 GMT, "Jan Verschueren"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>"jgd" wrote...
>> <snip>
>> Does it still drive like an 18 wheeler? :)
>
>Why don't you produce a game add-on to laugh at?
I created RemcoRing..... :-/
Remco
"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I had a similar gain when the Honda was released, but I really do hatethat
> b***y thing!
>
> Malc.
Wow....
You asterisk out the "loo" from bloody yet eagerly cast aspersions at all
GP4 users.
...wow...
Not sure where to rate that, but I like it nonetheless. :-)
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mark
Jan Verschueren wrote:
No prob, that's what English is famous for: too much room for
interpretation...esp. from us 2nd language guys! ;)
l8er
ronny
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> "Ronald Stoehr" wrote... > >><snip> >>He dissed the BRM, not the add-on. Geez! > > > Indeed Ronny, implying releasing updated graphics for the BRM was silly. At > least that's how I interpreted it.Is that Conga or conger - That slippery snake like creature that hides under
rocks, in the water?
MS
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> Don't sweat it... Simers are often socially inept. Grown men addicted to a > plastic wheel, locked up in a little room somewhere. > > > "> > Why don't you produce a game add-on to laugh at? > > > > He dissed the BRM, not the add-on. Geez! > > > > l8er > > ronny > > > >
"Jason Moyer"
No you didn't.
dh
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> >> Call that an argument? I want my fiver back. > >> > > > >That WAS an argument ! > > I came here for an argument, not an argument! > > Jason
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yes he did !!
Elrikk
