Kinda OT.. fat32 or NTFS

Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the security of the drive doesnt matter to me. Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD's are fat32 should i stick with that? dan

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:49:33 +0100, "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to >fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the >security of the drive doesnt matter to me. > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD's are >fat32 should i stick with that? > dan NTFS is only usefull for file's rights and user's rights. FAT32 is better for speed and security. As far as i know. Sebastien TIXIER - Game Developer Dynamics and Car Physics http://www.eden-studios.fr GPLRank Normal:-44.24 Monster:-124.44

NTFS is always in a known state unlike FAT. If your system crashes NTFS does not require the scan disk process. Article on Fat vs NTFS http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=63 "Sebastien Tixier" <stixier@wanadoo[NO_SPAM].fr> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:49:33 +0100, "Dan_Leach" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to > >fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the > >security of the drive doesnt matter to me. > > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD's

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> >fat32 should i stick with that? > > dan > > NTFS is only usefull for file's rights and user's rights. > > FAT32 is better for speed and security. > > As far as i know. > > > Sebastien TIXIER - Game Developer > Dynamics and Car Physics > http://www.eden-studios.fr > GPLRank Normal:-44.24 Monster:-124.44

I like NTFS for its smaller cluster size. Granted with today's larger hard drives its not as big of an issue as it use to be. If you don't have a second computer that will read NTFS I'd stick with Fat 32 so you can reclaim your data incase of a system failure. MadDAWG

OK new question :) can i ghost a 19 gig fat32 drive onto a NTFS empty new drive? dan "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uTcr9.119989$[email hidden]...

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> NTFS is always in a known state unlike FAT. If your system crashes NTFS > does not require the scan disk process. > > Article on Fat vs NTFS > http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=63 > > "Sebastien Tixier" <stixier@wanadoo[NO_SPAM].fr> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:49:33 +0100, "Dan_Leach" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it

to > > >fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) andthe

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> > >security of the drive doesnt matter to me. > > > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD's > are > > >fat32 should i stick with that? > > > dan > > > > NTFS is only usefull for file's rights and user's rights. > > > > FAT32 is better for speed and security. > > > > As far as i know. > > > > > > Sebastien TIXIER - Game Developer > > Dynamics and Car Physics > > http://www.eden-studios.fr > > GPLRank Normal:-44.24 Monster:-124.44 > >

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 09:23:55 -0300, "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote: >NTFS is always in a known state unlike FAT. If your system crashes NTFS >does not require the scan disk process. windowns never crashes :o)))))))))))))))) Sebastien TIXIER - Game Developer Dynamics and Car Physics http://www.eden-studios.fr GPLRank Normal:-44.24 Monster:-124.44

> FAT32 is better for speed and security. ?????????????? Security what????

Yes, FAT32 offers no security, that's one of the big pluses for NTFS. "Carl Ribbegaardh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aok3g2$mjm89$[email hidden]...

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> > > FAT32 is better for speed and security. > > ?????????????? > > Security what???? > >

First off, if it's bigger than 32GB, I don't think XP will let you format it as a single FAT32 partition. Second, if you want to deal with AV stuff at -all-, NTFS comes in very handy. FAT32 can't handle files over 2GB; I have two movie files in particular (footage from Hot August Nights in Reno, NV ;) that are over 12GB each. 1hr each, completely uncompressed. Third, you're probably not going to notice a speed difference between the two. Milhouse "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aojchq$mn5ng$[email hidden]... > Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to > fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the > security of the drive doesnt matter to me. > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD'sare > fat32 should i stick with that? > dan > >

Milhouse wrote: > First off, if it's bigger than 32GB, I don't think XP will let you format it > as a single FAT32 partition. Wrong. My 80GB drive is split into a 25GB partition for Win98 & 55GB partition for XP. -- Fester None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm

Dan_Leach wrote: > Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to > fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the > security of the drive doesnt matter to me. > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD's are > fat32 should i stick with that? If you're only gaming on this machine, I wouldn't bother with NTFS. FAT32 is lots less hassle & works just fine. -- Fester None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm

Not much hassles to NTFS. Just format it and that's it. Don't need to use all the features if you don't need too. "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Dan_Leach wrote: > > Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to > > fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the > > security of the drive doesnt matter to me. > > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD'sare

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> > fat32 should i stick with that? > > > If you're only gaming on this machine, I wouldn't bother with NTFS. > FAT32 is lots less hassle & works just fine. > > > -- > > Fester > > None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they > are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe > http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm >

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:19:14 -0300, "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Not much hassles to NTFS. Just format it and that's it. Don't need to use >all the features if you don't need too. > >"Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Dan_Leach wrote: >> > Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to >> > fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the >> > security of the drive doesnt matter to me. >> > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD's >are >> > fat32 should i stick with that? >> >> >> If you're only gaming on this machine, I wouldn't bother with NTFS. >> FAT32 is lots less hassle & works just fine. >>

The only "problem" I have with NTFS is that Spinrite does not support it, If Gibson would fix that problem then all my drives would bet NTFS. OTOH if anyone knows of a program that lets you "see" and fix the problem like spinrite then let me know.

How did you format and partition them, though? Milhouse "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Milhouse wrote: > > First off, if it's bigger than 32GB, I don't think XP will let youformat it

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> > as a single FAT32 partition. > > > Wrong. My 80GB drive is split into a 25GB partition for Win98 & 55GB > partition for XP. > > > -- > > Fester > > None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they > are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe > http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm >

Fat16 (win95 orig) had a 2 GB limit. Fat32 is something like 100 terrabytes or some ungodly number! I have 2 80 gig drives, 1 at NTFS(C) and 1 at Fat32(D). Good thing about NTFS is no more scan disks when you do a hard reset and formatting your 80 gig drive in NTFS can be done in 2 seconds while with fat32 it'll take an hour. Good thing about Fat32 is you can access your files with a startup disk in case your hard drive fails...(fails in a way that won't boot the OS but will boot with a Startup disk enough for you to backup any important files before it dies for good. As drives get bigger, fat32 becomes less attractive. -Tim "Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aok5qa$qre$[email hidden]... > First off, if it's bigger than 32GB, I don't think XP will let you formatit > as a single FAT32 partition. > > Second, if you want to deal with AV stuff at -all-, NTFS comes in very > handy. FAT32 can't handle files over 2GB; I have two movie files in > particular (footage from Hot August Nights in Reno, NV ;) that are over12GB

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> each. 1hr each, completely uncompressed. > > Third, you're probably not going to notice a speed difference between the > two. > > Milhouse > > "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aojchq$mn5ng$[email hidden]... > > Ive just got a new HD and want to know wether its better to format it to > > fat32 or NTFS. All i really use my pc for is game playing (gpl:) and the > > security of the drive doesnt matter to me. > > Is NTFS simply better for a win XP system?.. or as all my other HD's > are > > fat32 should i stick with that? > > dan > > > > > >

Milhouse wrote: > How did you format and partition them, though? Both are FAT32. Used the Maxtor tools disk that come with the drive. Didn't try fdisk. Does that have a problem with the large partitions? I wouldn't think so, but I've never tried it. -- Fester None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm

Schooner wrote: > Not much hassles to NTFS. Just format it and that's it. Don't need to use > all the features if you don't need too. Actually I was referring to hassles some games give you with NTFS. GPL & indexing, many have reported problems with The Sims, etc. And if it's gonna be a gaming-only machine, FAT32 may give him one less headache. -- Fester None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm

"Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aojmhe$m2jer$[email hidden]... > OK new question :) can i ghost a 19 gig fat32 drive onto a NTFS empty new > drive? I don't know but you can xcopy the files. "xcopy c:\*.* d:\*.* \e \h" or something like that. But you can't do it from the partition you boot from, so you got to have dual boot. It won't be the same as a fresh install as there was no restrictions/ownership on files and directories on the FAT32 drive, and I can't see how XP could be able to recreate these. This might not be a problem though. It's also possible to convert a FAT32 drive to NTFS, but it might be a bad idea. I think the problems some people get with GPL and NTFS is on converted drives or drives upgraded from Win98. I have just xcopied my two XP partitions to a new drive, so if you get in trouble, I might be able to help you. It was not straight forward for me because there was files I could not access. I don't think this would be a problem with FAT32. BTW: Isn't it amusing that Microsoft spellchecker doesn't recognize the words FAT32 and NTFS? Jone.

"Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aok5qa$qre$[email hidden]... > First off, if it's bigger than 32GB, I don't think XP will let you formatit > as a single FAT32 partition. > > Second, if you want to deal with AV stuff at -all-, NTFS comes in very > handy. FAT32 can't handle files over 2GB; I have two movie files in > particular (footage from Hot August Nights in Reno, NV ;) that are over12GB > each. 1hr each, completely uncompressed. > > Third, you're probably not going to notice a speed difference between the > two. > > Milhouse I have a 60GB drive that's a single partition with XP installed. I FDISKed with a bootdisk before I installed XP - no problem... CFster

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:28:31 -0400, MadDAWG wrote:

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> I like NTFS for its smaller cluster size. Granted with today's larger hard > drives its not as big of an issue as it use to be. If you don't have a > second computer that will read NTFS I'd stick with Fat 32 so you can reclaim > your data incase of a system failure. > > MadDAWG > >

if you plan to run Linux alongside your "other" OS then FAT32 is the way to go. There is support for read access to NTFS within Linux, but I am not sure about write access. Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61