DHCP? Can it cause disco's?

I have run some F1 2k2 mods, and some DTM Heat online recently, and each night I've been disconnected at least once per evening. I'm running AT&T cable thru a Lynksis router. Even with good pings. I suddenly just loose the connection, it's happened while racing and while chatting. Ever since @home went broke, the At&t broadband replacement got rid of static IP#s. Now if I leave my system idle for a certain period, I have to re-aquire a new IP#. The trouble is, it seems to do this even when my internet connection is active. Is there a way to limit that nasty behavior? dave henrie

Mmmm... This is weird Dave, DHCP should not be doing this while the connection is active (As far as I know)... How is tech suport with your ISP? You should try & get help from them. To me this sounds more like an hardware problem you're having, my IP changes but only on re-booting and even then, will stay the same between re-boots during the same day ususally. For it to change, the IP has to be allocated to someone else by the server. Are you sure that your NIC is properly configured? You're in Win98 right? It may very well be that the you're not running on the right driver, if so the Interface Card could be working intermitantly. Try borrowing a NIC from a friend and re-install it in another PCI slot (This could create IRQ conflicts with your soundcard that you will have to resolve but it is a necessary exercise). Try installing your NIC in another slot if you're positive you have the right drivers. Denis "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:u86s9.4686$md1.1523@sccrnsc03... > I have run some F1 2k2 mods, and some DTM Heat online recently, and each > night I've been disconnected at least once per evening. I'm running AT&T > cable thru a Lynksis router. Even with good pings. I suddenly just loose > the connection, it's happened while racing and while chatting. > Ever since @home went broke, the At&t broadband replacement got rid of > static IP#s. Now if I leave my system idle for a certain period, I haveto > re-aquire a new IP#. The trouble is, it seems to do this even when my > internet connection is active. Is there a way to limit that nastybehavior? > dave henrie > >

Hi Dave, It's a fact that IP address's are in short supply, some ISP's (mine included) have stated taking the IP address back if you're not using it and allocating you a new one when needed. I also know of one ISP that will take it back whether you're using it or not if they need to give a connection to someone else . Craig "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:u86s9.4686$md1.1523@sccrnsc03... > I have run some F1 2k2 mods, and some DTM Heat online recently, and each > night I've been disconnected at least once per evening. I'm running AT&T > cable thru a Lynksis router. Even with good pings. I suddenly just loose > the connection, it's happened while racing and while chatting. > Ever since @home went broke, the At&t broadband replacement got rid of > static IP#s. Now if I leave my system idle for a certain period, I haveto > re-aquire a new IP#. The trouble is, it seems to do this even when my > internet connection is active. Is there a way to limit that nastybehavior? > dave henrie > >

"Craig" <[email hidden]> writes: > Hi Dave, > It's a fact that IP address's are in short supply, some ISP's (mine > included) have stated taking the IP address back if you're not using it and > allocating you a new one when needed. > I also know of one ISP that will take it back whether you're using it or not > if they need to give a connection to someone else . so, in essence, they are charging you for a service that doesn't work, then? -- Gunnar Cougar#02748 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 FJ�SE!

Gunnar, If they're taking it back when you're using it then that maybe be the case, but if they take it when you're not, as long as they can give you one back when it's needed that's ok isn't it? After all if you want a static IP address you can pay extra for it. Craig "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Craig" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Hi Dave, > > It's a fact that IP address's are in short supply, some ISP's (mine > > included) have stated taking the IP address back if you're not using itand > > allocating you a new one when needed. > > I also know of one ISP that will take it back whether you're using it ornot > > if they need to give a connection to someone else . > > so, in essence, they are charging you for a service that doesn't work,then? > > -- > Gunnar > Cougar#02748 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8Kibo�: 2 > FJ�SE!

If this is truly your problems cause. Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running), verify the lease time on the IP. If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into a command prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type ipconfig /all What you're looking for is the lease time. Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output. Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:21:15 AM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:41:15 PM In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in total for the lease. At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000 minutes) my PC will try and renew the lease. Normally you just get the same IP address back. However, if the DHCP server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC when I try and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running. Some ISPs are resorting to this to break the P2P server thing. This "may" be what you've experienced. I've seen lease time as low as 30 minutes (15 minutes). ==================================================== "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:u86s9.4686$md1.1523@sccrnsc03... : I have run some F1 2k2 mods, and some DTM Heat online recently, and each : night I've been disconnected at least once per evening. I'm running AT&T : cable thru a Lynksis router. Even with good pings. I suddenly just loose : the connection, it's happened while racing and while chatting. : Ever since @home went broke, the At&t broadband replacement got rid of : static IP#s. Now if I leave my system idle for a certain period, I have to : re-aquire a new IP#. The trouble is, it seems to do this even when my : internet connection is active. Is there a way to limit that nasty behavior? : dave henrie : :

"Craig" <[email hidden]> writes: > Gunnar, > > If they're taking it back when you're using it then that maybe be the case, > but if they take it when you're not, as long as they can give you one back > when it's needed that's ok isn't it? depends on what "not using it" means, I guess. ssh connections, for instance, have a tendency to stay idle for a long time, even when they are connected. they would of course get disconnected on an address-change, and I'm pretty sure many OSes would get pretty confused as well. and besides, there is no point to doing it. -- Gunnar Cougar#02748 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 "Det er nok ingen ovn, men fartsm�leren v�r."

"PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qCcs9.157611$[email hidden]...

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> If this is truly your problems cause. > Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running), verify the > lease time on the IP. > > If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into a command > prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type > ipconfig /all > > What you're looking for is the lease time. > Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output. > > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:21:15 AM > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:41:15 PM > > In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in total for > the lease. > > At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000 minutes) my > PC will try and renew the lease. > Normally you just get the same IP address back. However, if the DHCP > server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC when I try > and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running. Some ISPs are > resorting to this to break the P2P server thing. > > This "may" be what you've experienced. I've seen lease time as low as 30 > minutes (15 minutes). >

Here's the lease info from winipcfg: Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM Lease Expires 10 19 02 6:51:41 I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last night(7pm local pacific Daylight time.) So I supposedly had a fresh lease. The disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into the fresh lease. The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a big slew of newsgroup posts. I'll go back to double check any new emails and the will already have lost the connection to the server. I just have to re-click the 'send & receive' button a 2nd time and it will start back up. I guess I'm gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# before every round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry for next month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours. dave henrie

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: > I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last night(7pm > local pacific Daylight time.) So I supposedly had a fresh lease. maybe. the lease can be maintained across system reboots. W2K does this by default I think. -- Gunnar Cougar#02748 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 FJ�SE!

It will keep IP tracking info in the registry, however that OS will verify that no one is using the IP beforehand. Another option is to watch what the PCs doing at boot up with another PC. I.e. Sniff the traffic and watch the bootup packets, also trace the time the game disconnect happens. Ethereal is a freeware sniffer if you guys are interested in this kinda thing. -- ==================================================== "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: : : > I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last night(7pm : > local pacific Daylight time.) So I supposedly had a fresh lease. : : maybe. the lease can be maintained across system reboots. W2K does : this by default I think. : : : -- : Gunnar : Cougar#02748 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 : FJ�SE!

I'm leaning towards some other issue causing your problems. DHCP, in your case, appears to be giving you what looks like a 12 hour or 24 hour lease (you omitted AM/PM on the expiry). Regardless, you shouldn't be getting a new IP in an hour. Disconnects can happen for other reasons. You may need to trace what's going on at the time of the disconnect. Could you describe your OS and connection type further (do you have a firewall)? ==================================================== "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qads9.8669$md1.1842@sccrnsc03... : : "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : news:qCcs9.157611$[email hidden]... : > If this is truly your problems cause. : > Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running), verify the : > lease time on the IP. : > : > If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into a command : > prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type : > ipconfig /all : > : > What you're looking for is the lease time. : > Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output. : > : > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:21:15 AM : > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:41:15 PM : > : > In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in total for : > the lease. : > : > At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000 minutes) my : > PC will try and renew the lease. : > Normally you just get the same IP address back. However, if the DHCP : > server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC when I try : > and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running. Some ISPs are : > resorting to this to break the P2P server thing. : > : > This "may" be what you've experienced. I've seen lease time as low as 30 : > minutes (15 minutes). : > : Here's the lease info from winipcfg: : Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM : Lease Expires 10 19 02 6:51:41 : : I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last night(7pm : local pacific Daylight time.) So I supposedly had a fresh lease. The : disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into the fresh lease. : The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a big slew of : newsgroup posts. I'll go back to double check any new emails and the will : already have lost the connection to the server. I just have to re-click the : 'send & receive' button a 2nd time and it will start back up. I guess I'm : gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# before every : round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry for next : month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours. : dave henrie : : :

but then again if he's using Nat he'll be getting his IP address from his router and the router gets it's wan IP address from the ISP Craig "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vDds9.157629$[email hidden]... > I'm leaning towards some other issue causing your problems. > > DHCP, in your case, appears to be giving you what looks like a 12 hour or24 > hour lease (you omitted AM/PM on the expiry). Regardless, you shouldn'tbe

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> getting a new IP in an hour. > > Disconnects can happen for other reasons. > > You may need to trace what's going on at the time of the disconnect. > Could you describe your OS and connection type further (do you have a > firewall)? > > > ==================================================== > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qads9.8669$md1.1842@sccrnsc03... > : > : "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > : news:qCcs9.157611$[email hidden]... > : > If this is truly your problems cause. > : > Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running), verify > the > : > lease time on the IP. > : > > : > If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into a > command > : > prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type > : > ipconfig /all > : > > : > What you're looking for is the lease time. > : > Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output. > : > > : > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:21:15 > AM > : > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:41:15

PM > : > > : > In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in total > for > : > the lease. > : > > : > At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000minutes) > my > : > PC will try and renew the lease. > : > Normally you just get the same IP address back. However, if the DHCP > : > server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC when I > try > : > and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running. Some ISPsare > : > resorting to this to break the P2P server thing. > : > > : > This "may" be what you've experienced. I've seen lease time as lowas

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> 30 > : > minutes (15 minutes). > : > > : Here's the lease info from winipcfg: > : Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM > : Lease Expires 10 19 02 6:51:41 > : > : I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last > night(7pm > : local pacific Daylight time.) So I supposedly had a fresh lease. The > : disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into the fresh lease. > : The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a big slew

of > : newsgroup posts. I'll go back to double check any new emails and thewill

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> : already have lost the connection to the server. I just have to re-click > the > : 'send & receive' button a 2nd time and it will start back up. I guess > I'm > : gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# before every > : round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry for next > : month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours. > : dave henrie > : > : > : > >

Bingo. He has a 24 hour lease from the router, that is what is showing up when he does winipcfg. Dave, if you want to see how long your lease really is you will have to check and see if the router setup will show you that info. If it won't, you may have to bypass the router temporarily to see it. "Craig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aos6m8$paqs9$[email hidden]... > but then again if he's using Nat he'll be getting his IP address fromhis

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> router and the router gets it's wan IP address from the ISP > > Craig > > "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vDds9.157629$[email hidden]... > > I'm leaning towards some other issue causing your problems. > > > > DHCP, in your case, appears to be giving you what looks like a 12

hour or > 24 > > hour lease (you omitted AM/PM on the expiry). Regardless, youshouldn't

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> be > > getting a new IP in an hour. > > > > Disconnects can happen for other reasons. > > > > You may need to trace what's going on at the time of the disconnect. > > Could you describe your OS and connection type further (do you have

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> > firewall)? > > > > > > ==================================================== > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:qads9.8669$md1.1842@sccrnsc03... > > : > > : "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > : news:qCcs9.157611$[email hidden]... > > : > If this is truly your problems cause. > > : > Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running),

verify > > the > > : > lease time on the IP. > > : > > > : > If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go intoa

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> > command > > : > prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type > > : > ipconfig /all > > : > > > : > What you're looking for is the lease time. > > : > Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output. > > : > > > : > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002

9:21:15 > > AM > > : > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 20026:41:15 > PM > > : > > > : > In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes intotal

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> > for > > : > the lease. > > : > > > : > At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000 > minutes) > > my > > : > PC will try and renew the lease. > > : > Normally you just get the same IP address back. However, if

the DHCP > > : > server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PCwhen I > > try > > : > and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running. SomeISPs > are > > : > resorting to this to break the P2P server thing. > > : > > > : > This "may" be what you've experienced. I've seen lease time aslow

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> as > > 30 > > : > minutes (15 minutes). > > : > > > : Here's the lease info from winipcfg: > > : Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM > > : Lease Expires 10 19 02 6:51:41 > > : > > : I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last > > night(7pm > > : local pacific Daylight time.) So I supposedly had a fresh lease.

The > > : disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into the fresh lease. > > : The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a bigslew > of > > : newsgroup posts. I'll go back to double check any new emails andthe > will > > : already have lost the connection to the server. I just have tore-click > > the > > : 'send & receive' button a 2nd time and it will start back up. Iguess > > I'm > > : gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# beforeevery > > : round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry fornext

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> > : month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours. > > : dave henrie > > : > > : > > : > > > > > >

OK, missed that in the first message. Regardless, his PC will react EXACTLY the same as if he got an IP from his ISP. That is, lease recheck at 50% of the expiry. Now, what would be interesting is to see what IP lease time his LinkSys is getting. It may well be getting a new one within an hours. In which case it's NAT/Route/Firewall tables would resync, including dropping session for any NATed PCs. ==================================================== "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aos7js$otu9h$[email hidden]... : Bingo. He has a 24 hour lease from the router, that is what is showing : up when he does winipcfg. Dave, if you want to see how long your lease : really is you will have to check and see if the router setup will show : you that info. If it won't, you may have to bypass the router : temporarily to see it. : : : "Craig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : news:aos6m8$paqs9$[email hidden]... : > but then again if he's using Nat he'll be getting his IP address from : his : > router and the router gets it's wan IP address from the ISP : > : > Craig : > : > "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : > news:vDds9.157629$[email hidden]... : > > I'm leaning towards some other issue causing your problems. : > > : > > DHCP, in your case, appears to be giving you what looks like a 12 : hour or : > 24 : > > hour lease (you omitted AM/PM on the expiry). Regardless, you : shouldn't : > be : > > getting a new IP in an hour. : > > : > > Disconnects can happen for other reasons. : > > : > > You may need to trace what's going on at the time of the disconnect. : > > Could you describe your OS and connection type further (do you have : a : > > firewall)? : > > : > > : > > ==================================================== : > > : > > : > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : > > news:qads9.8669$md1.1842@sccrnsc03... : > > : : > > : "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : > > : news:qCcs9.157611$[email hidden]... : > > : > If this is truly your problems cause. : > > : > Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running), : verify : > > the : > > : > lease time on the IP. : > > : > : > > : > If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into : a : > > command : > > : > prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type : > > : > ipconfig /all : > > : > : > > : > What you're looking for is the lease time. : > > : > Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output. : > > : > : > > : > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002 : 9:21:15 : > > AM : > > : > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002 : 6:41:15 : > PM : > > : > : > > : > In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in : total : > > for : > > : > the lease. : > > : > : > > : > At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000 : > minutes) : > > my : > > : > PC will try and renew the lease. : > > : > Normally you just get the same IP address back. However, if : the DHCP : > > : > server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC : when I : > > try : > > : > and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running. Some : ISPs : > are : > > : > resorting to this to break the P2P server thing. : > > : > : > > : > This "may" be what you've experienced. I've seen lease time as : low : > as : > > 30 : > > : > minutes (15 minutes). : > > : > : > > : Here's the lease info from winipcfg: : > > : Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM : > > : Lease Expires 10 19 02 6:51:41 : > > : : > > : I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last : > > night(7pm : > > : local pacific Daylight time.) So I supposedly had a fresh lease. : The : > > : disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into the fresh lease. : > > : The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a big : slew : > of : > > : newsgroup posts. I'll go back to double check any new emails and : the : > will : > > : already have lost the connection to the server. I just have to : re-click : > > the : > > : 'send & receive' button a 2nd time and it will start back up. I : guess : > > I'm : > > : gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# before : every : > > : round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry for : next : > > : month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours. : > > : dave henrie : > > : : > > : : > > : : > > : > > : > : > :

Well, if the problem is the router serving DHCP to the PC, he can fix that part of it by giving his PC a fixed IP address within the range allowed by the router. Dave, does your PC's IP address change, or does your router's IP address change? "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IRjs9.157777$[email hidden]... > OK, missed that in the first message. > > Regardless, his PC will react EXACTLY the same as if he got an IP fromhis > ISP. > That is, lease recheck at 50% of the expiry. > > Now, what would be interesting is to see what IP lease time hisLinkSys is

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> getting. > It may well be getting a new one within an hours. > > In which case it's NAT/Route/Firewall tables would resync, including > dropping session for any NATed PCs. > > > > > ==================================================== > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aos7js$otu9h$[email hidden]... > : Bingo. He has a 24 hour lease from the router, that is what is

showing > : up when he does winipcfg. Dave, if you want to see how long yourlease > : really is you will have to check and see if the router setup willshow > : you that info. If it won't, you may have to bypass the router > : temporarily to see it. > :

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aot2s3$plvic$[email hidden]... > > Well, if the problem is the router serving DHCP to the PC, he can fix > that part of it by giving his PC a fixed IP address within the range > allowed by the router. Dave, does your PC's IP address change, or does > your router's IP address change? Heck I don't know...I took the router out of the box, I plugged it in...hooked up thecables and all three computers hooked up with the net. I'll dig out the manual and see what settings are available to change. And sorry about the typo it was a 24 hour lease, PM to PM.(or twelve hours before it checks in) But my problem happened in roughly an hour. No warping, no indication of lag, I've seen that plenty with other times when the wife was dloading mp3's. (and I made sure both of the other systems were NOT online at racetime) dave henrie

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> > > "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IRjs9.157777$[email hidden]... > > OK, missed that in the first message. > > > > Regardless, his PC will react EXACTLY the same as if he got an IP from > his > > ISP. > > That is, lease recheck at 50% of the expiry. > > > > Now, what would be interesting is to see what IP lease time his > LinkSys is > > getting. > > It may well be getting a new one within an hours. > > > > In which case it's NAT/Route/Firewall tables would resync, including > > dropping session for any NATed PCs. > > > > > > > > > > ==================================================== > > > > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aos7js$otu9h$[email hidden]... > > : Bingo. He has a 24 hour lease from the router, that is what is > showing > > : up when he does winipcfg. Dave, if you want to see how long your > lease > > : really is you will have to check and see if the router setup will > show > > : you that info. If it won't, you may have to bypass the router > > : temporarily to see it. > > : >

You could plug your PC directly into the cable/dsl modem bypassing the router and check the lease time. -- ==================================================== "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:E9ss9.19872$qM2.5467@sccrnsc02... : : "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : news:aot2s3$plvic$[email hidden]... : > : > Well, if the problem is the router serving DHCP to the PC, he can fix : > that part of it by giving his PC a fixed IP address within the range : > allowed by the router. Dave, does your PC's IP address change, or does : > your router's IP address change? : : Heck I don't know...I took the router out of the box, I plugged it : in...hooked up thecables and all three computers hooked up with the net. : I'll dig out the manual and see what settings are available to change. : And sorry about the typo it was a 24 hour lease, PM to PM.(or twelve : hours before it checks in) But my problem happened in roughly an hour. : No warping, no indication of lag, I've seen that plenty with other times : when the wife was dloading mp3's. (and I made sure both of the other : systems were NOT online at racetime) : dave henrie : > : > : > "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : > news:IRjs9.157777$[email hidden]... : > > OK, missed that in the first message. : > > : > > Regardless, his PC will react EXACTLY the same as if he got an IP from : > his : > > ISP. : > > That is, lease recheck at 50% of the expiry. : > > : > > Now, what would be interesting is to see what IP lease time his : > LinkSys is : > > getting. : > > It may well be getting a new one within an hours. : > > : > > In which case it's NAT/Route/Firewall tables would resync, including : > > dropping session for any NATed PCs. : > > : > > : > > : > > : > > ==================================================== : > > : > > : > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : > > news:aos7js$otu9h$[email hidden]... : > > : Bingo. He has a 24 hour lease from the router, that is what is : > showing : > > : up when he does winipcfg. Dave, if you want to see how long your : > lease : > > : really is you will have to check and see if the router setup will : > show : > > : you that info. If it won't, you may have to bypass the router : > > : temporarily to see it. : > > : : > : :

"PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:U1Es9.157988$[email hidden]... > You could plug your PC directly into the cable/dsl modem bypassing the > router and check the lease time. > Looking at the info for the router, it has a 4 day lease. HOWEVER, reading the help file said to disable dhcp on the router if you already have dhcp enabled on the net. Now I don't know if this means my local 3 system lan or the bigger attbi net. (if so, I'm gonna try disabling it and see what happens) dave henrie

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<9OFs9.34484$%d2.20005@sccrnsc01>... > Looking at the info for the router, it has a 4 day lease. HOWEVER, > reading the help file said to disable dhcp on the router if you already have > dhcp enabled on the net. Now I don't know if this means my local 3 system > lan or the bigger attbi net. (if so, I'm gonna try disabling it and see > what happens) > dave henrie That's only if you have another DHCP server on the local LAN. You could, for diagnostic purposes, disable DHCP and just manually enter the appropriate IP addresses, gateway, DNS servers in your PCs on the LAN. It sounds more like your problem's on the WAN side. HTH, Kendt

I agree, you may want to upgrade the firmware on your Linksys. ==================================================== "Kendt Eklund" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... " It sounds more like your problem's on the WAN side."