MS Force Feedback Wheel doesn't work

Hi guys, can anyone help..... I can't get my MS Force Feedback Wheel to work in XP. There doesn't seem to be any software to get it to work. Does anyone know how to get it to work???? TIA Scott

"Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3db3cf7e$0$12757$[email hidden]... > Hi guys, can anyone help..... > > I can't get my MS Force Feedback Wheel to work in XP. There doesn't seemto > be any software to get it to work. Does anyone know how to get it to > work???? > You can install the software that came with the wheel. The MS site says it's compatible with XP, even though the software itself gives a warning that it might not be compatible. My wheel worked without the software, but I had to install it to get separate axis. Jone..

You are one of the unlucky ones then. I have made hundreds of PC's for customers with varying results. I introduce them to sim racing if they are interested and i bring my MS FF usb wheel along to demonstrate. Obviously it worked on all Win 98/ME machines. On the 70 or so Win XP machines it has not worked on 5 or 6. I have tried to find a common factor but there isnt one. Having an SIS chipset is the worst offender so far. Various cures exist and they work for some and not for others. GENERAL TIP 1.Do not install Sidewinder 4.0 software. 2.Then when the PC is at desktop plug in the wheel. 3.Calibrate in Gaming Options and then ingame. SIS TIP 1.Go to SIS website and d/l chipset USB patch 2.Install Sidewinder 4.0 software. 3.Use as normal SIS TIP 2 1.Add extra usb card 2.Plug wheel into this and not the mobo sockets 3.Install Sidewinder 4.0 as normal The results have been so different with various equipment that i am certain there is not just one cure. One XP,SIS pc ran it fine,no problem at all. One Xp,Ali ran it with the combined axis only,split was impossible. One XP,Via ran it with brake always half on...!!! LOL Good luck there is a cure for your problem of it not working at all,but its a case of finding what suits. A list of your system spec,chipset etc would help. AD

USB or Gameport. If it's a gameport, your options are severely limited. There is no, and never will be, any profiler software for the Gameport version, and your only choice is the built-in mini-driver that comes with XP, which is not all that functional and causes grief with a great many games, especially those that don't support split-axis properly. -Larry "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3db3cf7e$0$12757$[email hidden]... > Hi guys, can anyone help..... > > I can't get my MS Force Feedback Wheel to work in XP. There doesn't seemto

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> be any software to get it to work. Does anyone know how to get it to > work???? > > TIA > > Scott > >

Only the USB version is compatible. The gameport versions only support SideWinder 3.02, which will never be updated, and 3.02 will not install on 2K/XP under any circumstances. -Larry "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ap0jo3$qb1g2$[email hidden]...

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> > "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3db3cf7e$0$12757$[email hidden]... > > Hi guys, can anyone help..... > > > > I can't get my MS Force Feedback Wheel to work in XP. There doesn't seem > to > > be any software to get it to work. Does anyone know how to get it to > > work???? > > > > You can install the software that came with the wheel. The MS site says

it's > compatible with XP, even though the software itself gives a warning thatit

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> might not be compatible. > My wheel worked without the software, but I had to install it to get > separate axis. > > Jone.. > >

Another option is a gameport to usb converter. This will only allow the wheel to work and you still wont get profile software. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:znSs9.162655$[email hidden]... > USB or Gameport. > > If it's a gameport, your options are severely limited. There is no, and > never will be, any profiler software for the Gameport version, and youronly > choice is the built-in mini-driver that comes with XP, which is not allthat

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> functional and causes grief with a great many games, especially those that > don't support split-axis properly. > > -Larry > > "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3db3cf7e$0$12757$[email hidden]... > > Hi guys, can anyone help..... > > > > I can't get my MS Force Feedback Wheel to work in XP. There doesn't seem > to > > be any software to get it to work. Does anyone know how to get it to > > work???? > > > > TIA > > > > Scott > > > > > >

The only real option (unfortunately) is to sell/give away the old wheel and buy a new one. That's what I ended up doing. Just make sure you don't buy another Sidewinder - why support a product that doesn't support you? -- Mr Q (replies to mrq AT optusnet DOT com DOT au) ***************************************************************** "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dxSs9.41210$qM2.10120@sccrnsc02... > Another option is a gameport to usb converter. This will only allow the > wheel to work and you still wont get profile software.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:36:25 GMT, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote: I,ve been trying find such a converter. recently boughtr new computer with SB Audigy that has firewire in place of the gameport. Need to find a converter to use any of my controllers. any help would be apriciated. Thanks, Blaine

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>Another option is a gameport to usb converter. This will only allow the >wheel to work and you still wont get profile software. > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:znSs9.162655$[email hidden]... >> USB or Gameport. >> >> If it's a gameport, your options are severely limited. There is no, and >> never will be, any profiler software for the Gameport version, and your >only >> choice is the built-in mini-driver that comes with XP, which is not all >that >> functional and causes grief with a great many games, especially those that >> don't support split-axis properly. >> >> -Larry >> >> "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:3db3cf7e$0$12757$[email hidden]... >> > Hi guys, can anyone help..... >> > >> > I can't get my MS Force Feedback Wheel to work in XP. There doesn't seem >> to >> > be any software to get it to work. Does anyone know how to get it to >> > work???? >> > >> > TIA >> > >> > Scott >> > >> > >> >> >

I agree with getting a new wheel. I do NOT agree with dumping the MSFFW. Yeah, they piss me off too, but it's not just Microsoft. Just about everyone is dropping GamePort support in some way or another. And the MSFFW remains the best, most durable wheel set in it's price range, and it has excellent pedals to boot. He can always do what I do. Keep the GamePort version for spare parts. The vast majority of the components are the same. In over 2 years, I haven't had to use any of them, though. -Larry "Andre Queree (Mr Q)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3db4f84c$0$23170$[email hidden]... > The only real option (unfortunately) is to sell/give away the old wheeland > buy a new one. That's what I ended up doing. > > Just make sure you don't buy another Sidewinder - why support a productthat

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> doesn't support you? > > -- > > Mr Q > (replies to mrq AT optusnet DOT com DOT au) > ***************************************************************** > "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:dxSs9.41210$qM2.10120@sccrnsc02... > > Another option is a gameport to usb converter. This will only allow the > > wheel to work and you still wont get profile software. > > >

Maybe, but you'd think Microsoft could have provided better support for its own hardware in its own operating system. The other manufacturers may be dropping support for game port devices, but I'm pretty sure most of their software works with XP. It's not just the wheel - I had a Sidewinder wheel, joystick and gamepad, and they all became next to useless when I upgraded to XP. -- Mr Q (replies to mrq AT optusnet DOT com DOT au) ***************************************************************** "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wMmt9.1963$[email hidden]... > I agree with getting a new wheel. > > I do NOT agree with dumping the MSFFW. > > Yeah, they piss me off too, but it's not just Microsoft. Just about > everyone is dropping GamePort support in some way or another. > ...

Thanks for reply, its the gameport version, so I can't use the Software, have manged to get it to work through the built in mini-driver, only tried GPL so far. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ioSs9.162656$[email hidden]...

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> Only the USB version is compatible. The gameport versions only support > SideWinder 3.02, which will never be updated, and 3.02 will not install on > 2K/XP under any circumstances. > > -Larry > > "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ap0jo3$qb1g2$[email hidden]... > > > > "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3db3cf7e$0$12757$[email hidden]... > > > Hi guys, can anyone help..... > > > > > > I can't get my MS Force Feedback Wheel to work in XP. There doesn't

seem

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> > to > > > be any software to get it to work. Does anyone know how to get it to > > > work???? > > > > > > > You can install the software that came with the wheel. The MS site says > it's > > compatible with XP, even though the software itself gives a warning that > it > > might not be compatible. > > My wheel worked without the software, but I had to install it to get > > separate axis. > > > > Jone.. > > > > > >

Thanks guys, I did a search and found out about the Mini Driver and it works, in GPL at least, havn't tried anything else yet, but I'm back into GPL and only GPL for now, so it doesn't matter, maybe in a few months when something else comes along I might be in trouble again...... "Andre Queree (Mr Q)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3db64d5c$0$12758$[email hidden]... > Maybe, but you'd think Microsoft could have provided better support forits

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> own hardware in its own operating system. > > The other manufacturers may be dropping support for game port devices, but > I'm pretty sure most of their software works with XP. > > It's not just the wheel - I had a Sidewinder wheel, joystick and gamepad, > and they all became next to useless when I upgraded to XP. > > -- > > Mr Q > (replies to mrq AT optusnet DOT com DOT au) > ***************************************************************** > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:wMmt9.1963$[email hidden]... > > I agree with getting a new wheel. > > > > I do NOT agree with dumping the MSFFW. > > > > Yeah, they piss me off too, but it's not just Microsoft. Just about > > everyone is dropping GamePort support in some way or another. > > ... > >

Blaine <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:36:25 GMT, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > I,ve been trying find such a converter. > recently boughtr new computer with SB Audigy that has firewire in > place > of the gameport. Need to find a converter to use any of my > controllers. > any help would be apriciated.

Don't know where you're based, but you could try: http://www.maplin.co.uk/ Product code: UA22Y or bung "gameport" into the product search. I've got 2, and I'm very happy with how it works out. Mark Reading, UK

No argument there... But it still doesn't warrant taking the USB version off the shopping list when it's the best choice out there in it's class. In the end, it's not MY decision, and I don't have to live with it :) -Larry "Andre Queree (Mr Q)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3db64d5c$0$12758$[email hidden]... > Maybe, but you'd think Microsoft could have provided better support forits > own hardware in its own operating system.

Where you will run into the most trouble is with games that don't support split-axis properly. The mini-driver runs in split-axis mode, and I do not believe there is a way to change that. -Larry "Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3db67d9b$0$18873$[email hidden]...

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> Thanks guys, I did a search and found out about the Mini Driver and it > works, in GPL at least, havn't tried anything else yet, but I'm back into > GPL and only GPL for now, so it doesn't matter, maybe in a few months when > something else comes along I might be in trouble again...... > > > "Andre Queree (Mr Q)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3db64d5c$0$12758$[email hidden]... > > Maybe, but you'd think Microsoft could have provided better support for > its > > own hardware in its own operating system. > > > > The other manufacturers may be dropping support for game port devices,

but > > I'm pretty sure most of their software works with XP. > > > > It's not just the wheel - I had a Sidewinder wheel, joystick andgamepad,

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> > and they all became next to useless when I upgraded to XP. > > > > -- > > > > Mr Q > > (replies to mrq AT optusnet DOT com DOT au) > > ***************************************************************** > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:wMmt9.1963$[email hidden]... > > > I agree with getting a new wheel. > > > > > > I do NOT agree with dumping the MSFFW. > > > > > > Yeah, they piss me off too, but it's not just Microsoft. Just about > > > everyone is dropping GamePort support in some way or another. > > > ... > > > > > >

That is exactly what i need. do you know if they ship to the states? or if there is someone similar here? B On 23 Oct 2002 07:33:29 -0700, [email hidden] (Mark) wrote:

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>Blaine <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... >> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:36:25 GMT, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> I,ve been trying find such a converter. >> recently boughtr new computer with SB Audigy that has firewire in >> place >> of the gameport. Need to find a converter to use any of my >> controllers. >> any help would be apriciated. > >Don't know where you're based, but you could try: > >http://www.maplin.co.uk/ > >Product code: UA22Y >or bung "gameport" into the product search. > >I've got 2, and I'm very happy with how it works out. > >Mark >Reading, UK