GeForce 4 Set-up ?

I just upgraded my vid card from a GeForce2 MX-400 64mb to a GeForce4 Ti 4200 128mb. Installation was a breeze and I was all set to enjoy those screaming frame rates. However in both GPL and N2002 my framerates were LOWER than with the GF2. I was usually getting between 26-36 fps with the GF2 and am only achieving 19-25 with the GF4. F1 2002 seems to run a little smoother but that's about it I have the Vida Max program for setting up the card set to the defaults. Any ideas why I'm getting lower frame or hints of settings to try? My specs were: Windows 98SE AMD Athlom 1.2 GB 768MB SDRam PC133 Asus A7A266 DDR/SDR mobo Asus AGP 64MB V7100 Pro T GeForce2 MX-400 (Now Daytona GeForce Ti 4200 128mb) SB Live Value 5.1 40 & 20 GB IBM HDs DirectX 8.1a Thanks! -Brian Mc

what is this Vida Max for..? Simple fact....if you take out an MX 400 and replace it with a Ti 4200 you will have alot higher frame rates. So the issues here are other contributary factors. Namely.....drivers and utilities. Which drivers did you use with GF2 and now...? Do you have any utilities which involve graphic settings...? Easy to help you after answering these two Q. AD

Have you tried opengl? I upgraded from a geforce 2ti to a 4200 with 128 mb, and now have about the same framerates, but with 2*aa en all options on (framerate 30-80) "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:P1Xt9.84687$[email hidden]... > I just upgraded my vid card from a GeForce2 MX-400 64mb to a GeForce4 Ti > 4200 128mb. Installation was a breeze and I was all set to enjoy those > screaming frame rates. However in both GPL and N2002 my framerates were > LOWER than with the GF2. I was usually getting between 26-36 fps with the > GF2 and am only achieving 19-25 with the GF4. F1 2002 seems to run alittle > smoother but that's about it I have the Vida Max program for setting upthe > card set to the defaults. Any ideas why I'm getting lower frame or hintsof

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> settings to try? My specs were: > > Windows 98SE > AMD Athlom 1.2 GB > 768MB SDRam PC133 > Asus A7A266 DDR/SDR mobo > Asus AGP 64MB V7100 Pro T > GeForce2 MX-400 > (Now Daytona GeForce Ti 4200 128mb) > SB Live Value 5.1 > 40 & 20 GB IBM HDs > DirectX 8.1a > > Thanks! > -Brian Mc > >

Make sure you update your drivers; especially to one of the 40.xx series, they make a big difference in GF4 performance. Milhouse "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:P1Xt9.84687$[email hidden]... > I just upgraded my vid card from a GeForce2 MX-400 64mb to a GeForce4 Ti > 4200 128mb. Installation was a breeze and I was all set to enjoy those > screaming frame rates. However in both GPL and N2002 my framerates were > LOWER than with the GF2. I was usually getting between 26-36 fps with the > GF2 and am only achieving 19-25 with the GF4. F1 2002 seems to run alittle > smoother but that's about it I have the Vida Max program for setting upthe > card set to the defaults. Any ideas why I'm getting lower frame or hintsof

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> settings to try? My specs were: > > Windows 98SE > AMD Athlom 1.2 GB > 768MB SDRam PC133 > Asus A7A266 DDR/SDR mobo > Asus AGP 64MB V7100 Pro T > GeForce2 MX-400 > (Now Daytona GeForce Ti 4200 128mb) > SB Live Value 5.1 > 40 & 20 GB IBM HDs > DirectX 8.1a > > Thanks! > -Brian Mc > >

Aydee: Sorry for the typo, it's NVida Max, a little program for setting V-synch, textures, clock speed, etc. Third party I think. Was using the 4.13.01.2183 drivers on the GF2, not the newest but they worked great for me. Using the 4.13.01.2980 driver from the CD that came with it, will check for updates after emailing you. No other graphic setting utilities. Thanks! -Brian Mc "Aydee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ap9gn4$bdo$[email hidden]...

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> what is this Vida Max for..? > > Simple fact....if you take out an MX 400 and replace it with a Ti 4200 you > will have alot higher frame rates. > > So the issues here are other contributary factors. > > Namely.....drivers and utilities. > > Which drivers did you use with GF2 and now...? > > Do you have any utilities which involve graphic settings...? > > Easy to help you after answering these two Q. > > > AD > >

My advice is to try the 30.82 and 40.xx drivers in a direct comparison. Take that Nvidia Max thing out of the equation. Then do some fps benchmarking.....use Nascar 2002,or Analyze in 3D Config in F1 2002. Then choose which you prefer. Only after all is running well with installation and drivers should you entertain utilities. Good luck. AD

Brian, it's been a while that I've used Nvmax, but since it's a bit older and didn't get updated, maybe it doesn't work properly with the drivers anymore. Many of the driver parameters got renamed, so the parameters Nvmax sets may not be recognized by your drivers. I'd try Rivatuner (version 2.0 RC 12), which has a few less options but is constantly updated with newer drivers. It's perfectly possible that although you think you've turned off Vsync in Nvmax, in truth it's still on, etc. I'd also try the 29.80 drivers. They're a bit more modern than the 21.8x, have excellent image quality and are as fast or faster than the 21.8x, although the speed diff probably isn't substantial. The 41.03 are probably even faster, but I don't know about their visual quality under 3d. The 40.xx were a little less good in terms of visual quality than the 29.80. Achim "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:P1Xt9.84687$[email hidden]... > I just upgraded my vid card from a GeForce2 MX-400 64mb to a GeForce4 Ti > 4200 128mb. Installation was a breeze and I was all set to enjoy those > screaming frame rates. However in both GPL and N2002 my framerates were > LOWER than with the GF2. I was usually getting between 26-36 fps with the > GF2 and am only achieving 19-25 with the GF4. F1 2002 seems to run alittle > smoother but that's about it I have the Vida Max program for setting upthe > card set to the defaults. Any ideas why I'm getting lower frame or hintsof

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> settings to try? My specs were: > > Windows 98SE > AMD Athlom 1.2 GB > 768MB SDRam PC133 > Asus A7A266 DDR/SDR mobo > Asus AGP 64MB V7100 Pro T > GeForce2 MX-400 > (Now Daytona GeForce Ti 4200 128mb) > SB Live Value 5.1 > 40 & 20 GB IBM HDs > DirectX 8.1a > > Thanks! > -Brian Mc > >

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> I just upgraded my vid card from a GeForce2 MX-400 64mb to a GeForce4 Ti > 4200 128mb. Installation was a breeze and I was all set to enjoy those > screaming frame rates. However in both GPL and N2002 my framerates were > LOWER than with the GF2. I was usually getting between 26-36 fps with the > GF2 and am only achieving 19-25 with the GF4. F1 2002 seems to run a little > smoother but that's about it I have the Vida Max program for setting up the > card set to the defaults. Any ideas why I'm getting lower frame or hints of > settings to try? My specs were:

[SNIP] 2 tips: -Get Detonator Destroyer. Uninstall the current drivers, reboot in VGA mode, run Det Dest, reboot, then install the latest drivers (I've been happy with the 30.8x's - can't remember the exact ver). May be more steps than needed, but works every time for me. -Get RivaTuner. Don't install it until you've got the drivers setup. NvMax I think went out of date with the latest Det's, and displayed some seriously weird behavior last time I used it. These apps work by modifying the registry, and if nVidia changes the keys in a particular driver rev (and the values in the keys for various settings), you can get very screwed up by an out of date version (hence it would be a good idea to run Det Dest to clean out your system of nVidia files and reg keys). HTH, Kendt

Have you deleted all the remaining parts of your older NVidia drivers? This may be one big problem and so easily to solve: Try detonatordestroyer from the page www.guru3d.com and folleow exactly the onscreen instructions. Then install the new drivers, this did it for me and all was fine good luck, Rolf

Is there a detonatordestroyer for XP? "Rolf Wesemann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:apk20l$k5b$05$[email hidden]... > Have you deleted all the remaining parts of your older NVidia drivers?This

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> may be one big problem and so easily to solve: > > Try from the page > > www.guru3d.com > > and folleow exactly the onscreen instructions. Then install the new

drivers, > this did it for me and all was fine > > good luck, > Rolf > >

Nope. -Larry "TDRacin�" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iAjv9.36971$[email hidden]...

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> Is there a detonatordestroyer for XP? > > > "Rolf Wesemann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:apk20l$k5b$05$[email hidden]... > > Have you deleted all the remaining parts of your older NVidia drivers? > This > > may be one big problem and so easily to solve: > > > > Try from the page > > > > www.guru3d.com > > > > and folleow exactly the onscreen instructions. Then install the new > drivers, > > this did it for me and all was fine > > > > good luck, > > Rolf > > > > > >

Thanks "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1xBw9.73622$[email hidden]...

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> Nope. > > -Larry > > "TDRacin�" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:iAjv9.36971$[email hidden]... > > Is there a detonatordestroyer for XP? > > > > > > "Rolf Wesemann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:apk20l$k5b$05$[email hidden]... > > > Have you deleted all the remaining parts of your older NVidia drivers? > > This > > > may be one big problem and so easily to solve: > > > > > > Try from the page > > > > > > www.guru3d.com > > > > > > and folleow exactly the onscreen instructions. Then install the new > > drivers, > > > this did it for me and all was fine > > > > > > good luck, > > > Rolf > > > > > > > > > > > >