Psst ... Having the 'Sim Blues'? Want something completely different?

Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish racer for very little money? #1 The answer is Gran Turismo 2. #2 It ain't no GPL. Don't dump this post just yet. Read a little further. First, buy a new retail copy of GT2 for 20 bucks at your local Electronics Boutique, Walmart or anywhere else. Run it on your PC, anti-aliased, mip-mapped etc. at 1024x768x32 or whatever using the free ePSXe Emulator, Version 1.51 which should be available at epsxe.com . IMPORTANT-You want 1.51, not 1.52 since it has a bug with GT2. It will take an hour or so to configure ePSXe. It is almost overly configurable with various downloadable user plug-ins, etc.. Direct 3D, Open GL, you name it. There's a forum at epsxe.com to help you out, and I would be glad to post my settings, plugins, etc. It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty nice. Actually, it looks DAMN nice considering it has over 200 cars modeled. Jap cars, Cobras, Chargers, Vettes, Camaros, Mustangs, VERY nice Prototypes, it controls like a DREAM, and feels more like a real car than most of the sim-lite racers (TIR, cough) that are flooding the shelves today. The cars are somewhat low-poly, sort of like TOCA2. Pretty nice. You have real understeer, oversteer, wheelspin, etc. Incredible amount of chassis tuning options and upgrades. Tons of wheels. The tracks are a mixture of real life and fake ones, but all are universally *excellent* and technically challenging. The Laguna Seca is killer. Also, the small 'rallycross' mode alone is worth the 20 bucks, IMO. To make it *even better*, use a CD Copier such as Clone CD or whatever and make an image of the CD on your hard drive. ePSXe supports all major image formats. Load times are really fast from the HD. ePSXe works fine with your normal CD though. You can even use Daemon Tools with the emulator. Works just fine. The emulator is mature and very nice. The gameplay is big fun, even with the somewhat on-rails AI. Just think of them as moving hazards.. :) A couple hundred cars to earn, buy and sell. Many, many tracks, and variations... Day, night. As a side note, the replays are unbeatable, IMO. To relax even more with GT2, go to EBAY and search for 'USB PSX'. This will show you some inexpensive ($10-15) adapters that will allow you to use a standard PSX gamepad for control. That's what I did. I use the right analog stick for throttle/brake and the left for steering. Of course any windows wheel or joystick will work. The emulator uses standard Direct X controllers. I love a good racer, and GT2, overall, is the most fun I have ever had with a non-hardcore PC racer. It's gameplay is very addictive. SO: The whole thang: Free - ePSXe ( http://www.epsxe.com ) $20 - GT2 (New) $10 - USB adapter (optional) $20-30 - PSX or PS2 Gamepad (optional) ---- 20-60 bucks and I guarantee you that you will have fun. Also, if you get the gamepad ,you will have everything necessary to play almost any PSX game on your PC in high-res .. You don't need a 'memory card' or anything else. It saves to your hard drive and you can copy saves to have an unlimited number of memory cards. Cool. The largest 'sim racing' community in the world, AFAIK, is centered around the GT* series. Hundreds of thousands of posts, etc. at http://www.granturismo.com or the forum at: http://forum.granturismo.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=3 Hacks, FAQs, everything. For those looking for something 'new', this may be just the thing. It is almost all I have raced for the last few months. I thought I would mention this idea to those that haven't considered it. Have fun!

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> spewed forth these words of wisdom: <snip>

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> >SO: > >The whole thang: > >Free - ePSXe ( http://www.epsxe.com ) >$20 - GT2 (New) >$10 - USB adapter (optional) >$20-30 - PSX or PS2 Gamepad (optional) >---- >20-60 bucks and I guarantee you that you will have fun. >Also, if you get the gamepad ,you will have everything >necessary to play almost any PSX game on your PC in >high-res .. >

<snip> So why not just buy a PSone for $49.99??? -- "Life is what you experience between racing games" Galley

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:28:53 -0500, Galley <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> spewed forth >these words of wisdom: > > ><snip> >> >>SO: >> >>The whole thang: >> >>Free - ePSXe ( http://www.epsxe.com ) >>$20 - GT2 (New) >>$10 - USB adapter (optional) >>$20-30 - PSX or PS2 Gamepad (optional) >>---- >>20-60 bucks and I guarantee you that you will have fun. >>Also, if you get the gamepad ,you will have everything >>necessary to play almost any PSX game on your PC in >>high-res .. >> > ><snip> > >So why not just buy a PSone for $49.99???

Because I like my screen resolution to be 1024x768 anti-aliased better than 320x200 jagged?

"rrevved" wrote... > <snip> Thanks for the tip, I'll get the game and try it over the holidays. Jan. =---

"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish > racer for very little money? > > #1 The answer is Gran Turismo 2. I tried running my Momo Wheel/TSW Pedals in the USB port on my PS2 with GT2 and the pedals were backwards. I'm thinking I won't have any better luck on the PC with the same title. What controller are you using? - Dave

> It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty > nice. Are you sure about this? It has trouble maintaining 30fps on the original PSX... If you are absolutely sure of this than I might give it a look. I think I've still got the game somewhere - bought it to play on my Dreamcast with Bleemcast but I found it pretty dull for an arcade game.

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:41:37 GMT, "Dave Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish >> racer for very little money? >> >> #1 The answer is Gran Turismo 2. > >I tried running my Momo Wheel/TSW Pedals in the USB port on my PS2 with GT2 and >the pedals were backwards. I'm thinking I won't have any better luck on the PC >with the same title. > >What controller are you using? > >- Dave >

With the emulator, you can set the buttons and axes any way you want, external to the game .. cool huh. I use a dual-shock controller.

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:25 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty >> nice. > >Are you sure about this? It has trouble maintaining 30fps on the original >PSX... If you are absolutely sure of this than I might give it a look. 60 fps in game with only small fluctuations when going between menus etc, I just checked it. The emulator has an option to show framerate. Of course you can choke it down if you get frisky with all the graphics options, but a good PC won't have a problem. >I >think I've still got the game somewhere - bought it to play on my Dreamcast >with Bleemcast but I found it pretty dull for an arcade game. > If you thought gameplay was dull, then you still won't like it, but it looks FAR better than the Bleemcast version after you tweak up the graphics settings .

"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > With the emulator, you can set the buttons and axes any > way you want, external to the game .. cool huh. > > I use a dual-shock controller. >But can you actually use an USB wheel made for PC (MOMO), or do you have to use a controller made for Playstation? Jone.

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: >It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty >nice. Actually, it looks DAMN nice considering it has over 200 Thanks for the tip!! One question, what pc do you have? I have a P3 866mhz, and a GF2 GTS, you think my pc can handle GT2 with at least 30fps? Would like to know for sure before I fork out the money for GT2 :) Andre

rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... Hi, I agree 100%. I set up a page a while back (last year) with some screenshots. They are at http://members.fortunecity.com/istoff/gt2psxe/ if anyone else is interested. Only problem is that despite the improved graphics over the original PSX, you still have dreadful popup, but that I can live with. You can't use a wheel adequately as well. It works best with an Analog joystick. If anyone else gets decent wheel control working, be happy to know how. Its better than a real playstation because of the improved resolution, loading times, infinite memory card (hard disk), etc. Btw, the opening videos for the european and japanese videos are totally different and each one is awesome. If anyone has seen high quality videos of them somewhere online, I'd love to hear where... To all the other serious simmers out there, don't bother, you'll just find something more to bitch about. Lastly Revved, its closer to 600 cars in the game :) Cheers

"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >I tried running my Momo Wheel/TSW Pedals in the USB port on my PS2 with GT2and > >the pedals were backwards. I'm thinking I won't have any better luck on thePC

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> >with the same title. > > > >What controller are you using? > > > >- Dave > > > With the emulator, you can set the buttons and axes any > way you want, external to the game .. cool huh.

Excellent!

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:38:19 +0100, "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... > >> With the emulator, you can set the buttons and axes any >> way you want, external to the game .. cool huh. >> >> I use a dual-shock controller. >> >But can you actually use an USB wheel made for PC (MOMO), or do you have to >use a controller made for Playstation? > >Jone. >

It only uses PC (DirectX Supported) Joysticks, Wheels, etc. If you want to use a PSX pad, stick, wheel, you have to use the special adapter that I mentioned. IT WORKS!! :)

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:34:13 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty >>nice. Actually, it looks DAMN nice considering it has over 200 > >Thanks for the tip!! One question, what pc do you have? I have a P3 >866mhz, and a GF2 GTS, you think my pc can handle GT2 with at least >30fps? Would like to know for sure before I fork out the money for GT2 >:) > >Andre

Mine is P4-2.4 / 512rdram / Gef3-64mb You will be able to make GT2 look very nice with your system I would think that you could run at 800x600x32 with quite a few graphical goodies enabled. You have to understand that this emulator and it's plug-ins are -seriously- configurable. Much more configurable than any other game you have ever seen.

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> The largest 'sim racing' community in the world, AFAIK, is > centered around the GT* series. Hundreds of thousands of > posts, etc. at http://www.granturismo.com or the forum at: > http://forum.granturismo.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=3 > > Hacks, FAQs, everything. > > For those looking for something 'new', this may be just the > thing. It is almost all I have raced for the last few months. > I thought I would mention this idea to those that haven't > considered it. > > Have fun! > >

I used to compete (badly) in an offline league based at granturismo.com and it was great fun- there was nothing "arcade" about the amount of effort some people put into setups etc, and GT2 got me through a lot of time when I had no PC to drive on. I would love for a game/sim on the PC to get close to the sheer amount of "stuff" you get to play with in GT2. Runs very nicely in ePSXe on my machine, although the menu music is a bit strange (might be the bug you'd mentioned). I even got to the point of collecting the rare cars- the ones that only show up in the dealers every 100 days or so :-D At the price GT2 is now, and the cost of a free download for the PC (or indeed a $50 psone) it's a lot of fun for very little money. cheers John

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:23:46 -0500, Dastardly Dan <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> >wrote: > > >>To relax even more with GT2, go to EBAY and search for 'USB PSX'. > >Play a racing game with a gamepad?! Sacrilege!

I have a TSW2 and a Force RS, but sometimes, it's just nice to kick back and relax, particularly when a game such as GT2 controls so well.

"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:23:46 -0500, Dastardly Dan <[email hidden]>wrote:

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> > >On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> > >wrote: > > > > > >>To relax even more with GT2, go to EBAY and search for 'USB PSX'. > > > >Play a racing game with a gamepad?! Sacrilege! > > I have a TSW2 and a Force RS, but sometimes, it's just nice > to kick back and relax, particularly when a game such as > GT2 controls so well.

Have you tried WRC (World Rally Championship) for PS2? It's great with the Dual Shock. I think I'm gonna see if I can get that one to work with your emulator, though. Just to see how it feels with my good wheel and pedals. If you haven't tried it - go rent it - you won't be disappointed. In fact next month they will be releasing WRC2 which should be a blast. - Dave

Thanks for that tip. I downloaded the emulator, but its asking me to install a BIOS file -- either scph1001.bin or scph7502. I did a search on the web and every site that I find it on either has 10 million pop-up ads or ask you to "join". Is there a "clean" site where one of these BIOS files can be downloaded? (Unbelievable, even as I compose this message a damn Credit Repair add pops up every 20 seconds or so..... I really hate that crap!) rrevved wrote:

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> Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish > racer for very little money? > > #1 The answer is Gran Turismo 2. > > #2 It ain't no GPL. > > Don't dump this post just yet. Read a little further. > > First, buy a new retail copy of GT2 for 20 bucks at your > local Electronics Boutique, Walmart or anywhere else. > > Run it on your PC, anti-aliased, mip-mapped etc. at 1024x768x32 > or whatever using the free ePSXe Emulator, Version 1.51 which > should be available at epsxe.com . > > IMPORTANT-You want 1.51, not 1.52 since it has a bug with GT2. > > It will take an hour or so to configure ePSXe. It is almost overly > configurable with various downloadable user plug-ins, etc.. > Direct 3D, Open GL, you name it. There's a forum at epsxe.com > to help you out, and I would be glad to post my settings, plugins, etc. > > It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty > nice. Actually, it looks DAMN nice considering it has over 200 > cars modeled. Jap cars, Cobras, Chargers, Vettes, Camaros, > Mustangs, VERY nice Prototypes, it controls like a DREAM, > and feels more like a real car than most of the sim-lite racers > (TIR, cough) that are flooding the shelves today. The cars > are somewhat low-poly, sort of like TOCA2. Pretty nice. > You have real understeer, oversteer, wheelspin, etc. > Incredible amount of chassis tuning options and upgrades. > Tons of wheels. > > The tracks are a mixture of real life and fake ones, but all > are universally *excellent* and technically challenging. > The Laguna Seca is killer. Also, the small 'rallycross' mode > alone is worth the 20 bucks, IMO. > > To make it *even better*, use a CD Copier such as Clone CD or > whatever and make an image of the CD on your hard drive. > ePSXe supports all major image formats. Load times are > really fast from the HD. ePSXe works fine with your normal > CD though. You can even use Daemon Tools with the emulator. > Works just fine. The emulator is mature and very nice. > > The gameplay is big fun, even with the somewhat on-rails AI. > Just think of them as moving hazards.. :) A couple hundred > cars to earn, buy and sell. Many, many tracks, and variations... > Day, night. As a side note, the replays are unbeatable, IMO. > > To relax even more with GT2, go to EBAY and search for 'USB PSX'. > This will show you some inexpensive ($10-15) adapters that will allow > you to use a standard PSX gamepad for control. That's what I did. > I use the right analog stick for throttle/brake and the left for steering. > Of course any windows wheel or joystick will work. The emulator > uses standard Direct X controllers. > > I love a good racer, and GT2, overall, is the most fun I have ever > had with a non-hardcore PC racer. It's gameplay is very addictive. > > SO: > > The whole thang: > > Free - ePSXe ( http://www.epsxe.com ) > $20 - GT2 (New) > $10 - USB adapter (optional) > $20-30 - PSX or PS2 Gamepad (optional) > ---- > 20-60 bucks and I guarantee you that you will have fun. > Also, if you get the gamepad ,you will have everything > necessary to play almost any PSX game on your PC in > high-res .. > > You don't need a 'memory card' or anything else. > It saves to your hard drive and you can copy saves > to have an unlimited number of memory cards. Cool. > > The largest 'sim racing' community in the world, AFAIK, is > centered around the GT* series. Hundreds of thousands of > posts, etc. at http://www.granturismo.com or the forum at: > http://forum.granturismo.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=3 > > Hacks, FAQs, everything. > > For those looking for something 'new', this may be just the > thing. It is almost all I have raced for the last few months. > I thought I would mention this idea to those that haven't > considered it. > > Have fun!

Thanks for that tip. I downloaded the emulator, but its asking me to install a BIOS file -- either scph1001.bin or scph7502. I did a search on the web and every site that I find it on either has 10 million pop-up ads or ask you to "join". Is there a "clean" site where one of these BIOS files can be downloaded? (Unbelievable, even as I compose this message a damn Credit Repair add pops up every 20 seconds or so..... I really hate that crap!)

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> Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish > racer for very little money? > #1 The answer is Gran Turismo 2. > #2 It ain't no GPL. > Don't dump this post just yet. Read a little further. > First, buy a new retail copy of GT2 for 20 bucks at your > local Electronics Boutique, Walmart or anywhere else. > Run it on your PC, anti-aliased, mip-mapped etc. at 1024x768x32 > or whatever using the free ePSXe Emulator, Version 1.51 which > should be available at epsxe.com . > IMPORTANT-You want 1.51, not 1.52 since it has a bug with GT2. > It will take an hour or so to configure ePSXe. It is almost overly > configurable with various downloadable user plug-ins, etc.. > Direct 3D, Open GL, you name it. There's a forum at epsxe.com > to help you out, and I would be glad to post my settings, plugins, etc. > It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty > nice. Actually, it looks DAMN nice considering it has over 200 > cars modeled. Jap cars, Cobras, Chargers, Vettes, Camaros, > Mustangs, VERY nice Prototypes, it controls like a DREAM, > and feels more like a real car than most of the sim-lite racers > (TIR, cough) that are flooding the shelves today. The cars > are somewhat low-poly, sort of like TOCA2. Pretty nice. > You have real understeer, oversteer, wheelspin, etc. > Incredible amount of chassis tuning options and upgrades. > Tons of wheels. > The tracks are a mixture of real life and fake ones, but all > are universally *excellent* and technically challenging. > The Laguna Seca is killer. Also, the small 'rallycross' mode > alone is worth the 20 bucks, IMO. > To make it *even better*, use a CD Copier such as Clone CD or > whatever and make an image of the CD on your hard drive. > ePSXe supports all major image formats. Load times are > really fast from the HD. ePSXe works fine with your normal > CD though. You can even use Daemon Tools with the emulator. > Works just fine. The emulator is mature and very nice. > The gameplay is big fun, even with the somewhat on-rails AI. > Just think of them as moving hazards.. :) A couple hundred > cars to earn, buy and sell. Many, many tracks, and variations... > Day, night. As a side note, the replays are unbeatable, IMO. > To relax even more with GT2, go to EBAY and search for 'USB PSX'. > This will show you some inexpensive ($10-15) adapters that will allow > you to use a standard PSX gamepad for control. That's what I did. > I use the right analog stick for throttle/brake and the left for steering. > Of course any windows wheel or joystick will work. The emulator > uses standard Direct X controllers. > I love a good racer, and GT2, overall, is the most fun I have ever > had with a non-*** PC racer. It's gameplay is very ***ive. > SO: > The whole thang: > Free - ePSXe ( http://www.epsxe.com ) > $20 - GT2 (New) > $10 - USB adapter (optional) > $20-30 - PSX or PS2 Gamepad (optional) > ---- > 20-60 bucks and I guarantee you that you will have fun. > Also, if you get the gamepad ,you will have everything > necessary to play almost any PSX game on your PC in > high-res .. > You don't need a 'memory card' or anything else. > It saves to your hard drive and you can copy saves > to have an unlimited number of memory cards. Cool. > The largest 'sim racing' community in the world, AFAIK, is > centered around the GT* series. Hundreds of thousands of > posts, etc. at http://www.granturismo.com or the forum at: > http://forum.granturismo.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=3 > Hacks, FAQs, everything. > For those looking for something 'new', this may be just the > thing. It is almost all I have raced for the last few months. > I thought I would mention this idea to those that haven't > considered it. > Have fun!

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:08:56 GMT, "Dave Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:23:46 -0500, Dastardly Dan <[email hidden]> >wrote: >> >> >On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> >>To relax even more with GT2, go to EBAY and search for 'USB PSX'. >> > >> >Play a racing game with a gamepad?! Sacrilege! >> >> I have a TSW2 and a Force RS, but sometimes, it's just nice >> to kick back and relax, particularly when a game such as >> GT2 controls so well. > >Have you tried WRC (World Rally Championship) for PS2? It's great with the Dual >Shock. I think I'm gonna see if I can get that one to work with your emulator,

ePSXe only emulates a PSX, not a PS2.. >though. Just to see how it feels with my good wheel and pedals. > >If you haven't tried it - go rent it - you won't be disappointed. In fact next >month they will be releasing WRC2 which should be a blast. > I've tried it! >- Dave >

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> Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish > racer for very little money? > > #1 The answer is Gran Turismo 2. > > #2 It ain't no GPL. > > Don't dump this post just yet. Read a little further. > > First, buy a new retail copy of GT2 for 20 bucks at your > local Electronics Boutique, Walmart or anywhere else. > > Run it on your PC, anti-aliased, mip-mapped etc. at 1024x768x32 > or whatever using the free ePSXe Emulator, Version 1.51 which > should be available at epsxe.com . > > IMPORTANT-You want 1.51, not 1.52 since it has a bug with GT2. > > It will take an hour or so to configure ePSXe. It is almost overly > configurable with various downloadable user plug-ins, etc.. > Direct 3D, Open GL, you name it. There's a forum at epsxe.com > to help you out, and I would be glad to post my settings, plugins, etc. > > It will run rock-solid at 60fps on a good PC and looks pretty > nice. Actually, it looks DAMN nice considering it has over 200 > cars modeled. Jap cars, Cobras, Chargers, Vettes, Camaros, > Mustangs, VERY nice Prototypes, it controls like a DREAM, > and feels more like a real car than most of the sim-lite racers > (TIR, cough) that are flooding the shelves today. The cars > are somewhat low-poly, sort of like TOCA2. Pretty nice. > You have real understeer, oversteer, wheelspin, etc. > Incredible amount of chassis tuning options and upgrades. > Tons of wheels. > > The tracks are a mixture of real life and fake ones, but all > are universally *excellent* and technically challenging. > The Laguna Seca is killer. Also, the small 'rallycross' mode > alone is worth the 20 bucks, IMO. > > To make it *even better*, use a CD Copier such as Clone CD or > whatever and make an image of the CD on your hard drive. > ePSXe supports all major image formats. Load times are > really fast from the HD. ePSXe works fine with your normal > CD though. You can even use Daemon Tools with the emulator. > Works just fine. The emulator is mature and very nice. > > The gameplay is big fun, even with the somewhat on-rails AI. > Just think of them as moving hazards.. :) A couple hundred > cars to earn, buy and sell. Many, many tracks, and variations... > Day, night. As a side note, the replays are unbeatable, IMO. > > To relax even more with GT2, go to EBAY and search for 'USB PSX'. > This will show you some inexpensive ($10-15) adapters that will allow > you to use a standard PSX gamepad for control. That's what I did. > I use the right analog stick for throttle/brake and the left for steering. > Of course any windows wheel or joystick will work. The emulator > uses standard Direct X controllers. > > I love a good racer, and GT2, overall, is the most fun I have ever > had with a non-hardcore PC racer. It's gameplay is very addictive. > > SO: > > The whole thang: > > Free - ePSXe ( http://www.epsxe.com ) > $20 - GT2 (New) > $10 - USB adapter (optional) > $20-30 - PSX or PS2 Gamepad (optional) > ---- > 20-60 bucks and I guarantee you that you will have fun. > Also, if you get the gamepad ,you will have everything > necessary to play almost any PSX game on your PC in > high-res .. > > You don't need a 'memory card' or anything else. > It saves to your hard drive and you can copy saves > to have an unlimited number of memory cards. Cool. > > The largest 'sim racing' community in the world, AFAIK, is > centered around the GT* series. Hundreds of thousands of > posts, etc. at http://www.granturismo.com or the forum at: > http://forum.granturismo.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=3 > > Hacks, FAQs, everything. > > For those looking for something 'new', this may be just the > thing. It is almost all I have raced for the last few months. > I thought I would mention this idea to those that haven't > considered it. > > Have fun!

Could you please post your settings... I have a LWFF (old Red FF one) that is connected via USB port, any idea if this will work. BTW my system is a PIII 933 w/384 PC133 RAM and a GeForce 2 GTS 64 meg (2 years old) think I'll be able to exceed 50fps? And.... Is it possible to run GT3 on a PC?

> Have you tried WRC (World Rally Championship) for PS2? It's great withthe Dual > Shock. I think I'm gonna see if I can get that one to work with youremulator, > though. Just to see how it feels with my good wheel and pedals. I've always found the dual-shock to be a fairly lame controller for racing sims. Does the PS2 have a joypad available with analogue triggers like the excellent xbox joypad?

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:08:52 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> Have you tried WRC (World Rally Championship) for PS2? It's great with >the Dual >> Shock. I think I'm gonna see if I can get that one to work with your >emulator, >> though. Just to see how it feels with my good wheel and pedals. > >I've always found the dual-shock to be a fairly lame controller for racing >sims.

O.K. >Does the PS2 have a joypad available with analogue triggers like the >excellent xbox joypad? > PSX has all sorts of gamepads. It may have some DC/XBox style pads, I don't know. www.ebgames.com may have some Remeber you have to have the USB adapter. If there is a PC pad that you like that will work, try that.

> PSX has all sorts of gamepads. > It may have some DC/XBox style pads, I don't know. > www.ebgames.com may have some > Remeber you have to have the USB adapter. > > If there is a PC pad that you like that will work, try that. Thanks

"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<apkg1h$2dmd3$[email hidden]>... > Does the PS2 have a joypad available with analogue triggers like the > excellent xbox joypad? Yes, the standard DualShock 2 controller that comes with the PS2 has analogue buttons for everything, the four 'action' buttons, the four shoulder buttons and i think select and start as well. What did you think the xbox controller functionality was modelled on?

BRH <"bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> Thanks for that tip. I downloaded the emulator, but its asking me to install > a BIOS file -- either scph1001.bin or scph7502. I did a search on the web and > every site that I find it on either has 10 million pop-up ads or ask you to > "join". > > Is there a "clean" site where one of these BIOS files can be downloaded? > (Unbelievable, even as I compose this message a damn Credit Repair add pops up > every 20 seconds or so..... I really hate that crap!)

That's the bit that allows them to release the emulators - you need to have a PlayStation to get the bios info. Of course, obtaining the bios info if you dont have the console is illegal, but hypothetically, if you did want it, I think a quick search on a P2P file sharer like Kazaa would get results. Also, there are programs which disallow popup windows and other annoying Java web features, take a look around the web.

[email hidden] (Jay J) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > And.... Is it possible to run GT3 on a PC? No. Not unless you plug a PS2 into a TV card... People are working on emulators, and I guess that eventually they will get one which runs proper games, but I don't think so for a while yet. The PS2 (and to a lesser extent GC) hardware is very difficult to emulate, let alone at 60fps for GT3. An xbox emulator seems to be the most likely, but then there really isn't much demand for it.

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> "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:<apkg1h$2dmd3$[email hidden]>... >> Does the PS2 have a joypad available with analogue triggers like the >> excellent xbox joypad? > > Yes, the standard DualShock 2 controller that comes with the PS2 has > analogue buttons for everything, the four 'action' buttons, the four > shoulder buttons and i think select and start as well. What did you > think the xbox controller functionality was modelled on?

Two of the shoulder buttons are "pressure-sensitive" (Sony's term). The rest of the buttons are digital. The analog triggers on the bottom of the Xbox controller were more than likely modeled after the Dreamcast controller.

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> > Does the PS2 have a joypad available with analogue triggers like the > > excellent xbox joypad? > > Yes, the standard DualShock 2 controller that comes with the PS2 has > analogue buttons for everything, the four 'action' buttons, the four > shoulder buttons and i think select and start as well. What did you > think the xbox controller functionality was modelled on?

Certainly not the Dual Shock's lame 'pressure sensitive' buttons. Both the Xbox and the Gamecube have full analogue triggers which work very well in racing games. I guess the credit goes to Sega - the Dreamcast was the first to feature them.

I just tried it. I'm afraid it doesn't run at 60fps. The emulator runs at 60fps, but since GT2 was designed to run at half of the TVs refresh rate, the actual game only runs at a paltry 30fps. Nice emulator. Still a horrendously overrated game though....

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish >racer for very little money? Thanks for the tip Ed!! I bought GT2 for 20 euro (about $20), messed an hour with all the settings of the emu and it works damn nice! It runs bloody smooth at 1024x768 on my pc. Have to tweak all the options a bit to get the best out of this emu, but I'm surprised at how well it runs on my old P3 :) PS Do you know if Driver 2 runs on this emu? Andre

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:04 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >> >>Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish >>racer for very little money? > >Thanks for the tip Ed!! I bought GT2 for 20 euro (about $20), messed >an hour with all the settings of the emu and it works damn nice! >It runs bloody smooth at 1024x768 on my pc. Have to tweak all the >options a bit to get the best out of this emu, but I'm surprised at >how well it runs on my old P3 :) > >PS Do you know if Driver 2 runs on this emu?

I have tried several games on the emulator and they have all worked fine. I haven't tried Driver 2, though. Over on the ePSXe forums, I bet someone could tell you and they may even have a compatibility list. You may want to give Ridge Racer 4 a try. It is VERY fun on the emulator. Also, TOCA/Jarrett-LeBonte Racing is just great. GT2 is good old-fashioned fun isn't it. And addictive, so be careful .. :)

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:33:55 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: > >GT2 is good old-fashioned fun isn't it. > >And addictive, so be careful .. :) Yup, I never had a console so it's great to be able to see what I missed :) I do have one problem though, maybe you can help me: I have a -huge- deadzone on the x-axis with my Momo. I really have to turn the wheel completely to the left or right before it begins to steer. I'm not sure if it's a deadzone problem or that the steering is digital instead of analogue.. I did select digital/analogue in the gamepad config option.. Oh, and I don't have music during the intro, is this normal? Andre

Johnny Long <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > Two of the shoulder buttons are "pressure-sensitive" (Sony's term). The > rest of the buttons are digital. The analog triggers on the bottom of the > Xbox controller were more than likely modeled after the Dreamcast > controller. ??? I have a PS2 and I can assure you that the DualShock 2 is completely analogue. Using the pad with GT3, you can hold the car on the revs you want on the start line by varying the pressure on 'X'. In DropShip, if you press the throttle button in *real* hard, you engage afterburner. In Madden NFL 2002, if you watch a replay, you can adjust how fast you skip through it by varying the pressure on the shoulder buttons (light press - slow motion; hard press - fast forward; and a smooth speed increase in between).

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> I have a PS2 and I can assure you that the DualShock 2 is completely > analogue. Using the pad with GT3, you can hold the car on the revs you > want on the start line by varying the pressure on 'X'. In DropShip, if > you press the throttle button in *real* hard, you engage afterburner. > In Madden NFL 2002, if you watch a replay, you can adjust how fast you > skip through it by varying the pressure on the shoulder buttons (light > press - slow motion; hard press - fast forward; and a smooth speed > increase in between).

I didn't know that all of the buttons were pressure sensitive. I have never seen anyone mention this before except for the shoulder buttons. I stand corrected and I apologize for my confusion.

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish >racer for very little money? The deadzone problem I'm having seems to be caused by the emu itself, since the forums are crowded with people having the same problem with all sorts of wheels. I tried different emu's, since for other emu's all sorts of joystick-plugins have been written. Unfortunately ePSXe doesn't support these joystick plugins yet. Bleem doesn't seem to support GT2. Black screen after the intro. A couple of other emu's do support GT2, but with all kind of gfx and music errors, and a poor fps. The best emu I found so far is Connectix Virtual Game Station (VGS). This emu is so freaking good that Sony bought it and immediately discontinued this emu, to prevent losing sales of the PS1. But with google it's easy to find a copy. VGS didn't need any configuration to run: Run VGS, insert the GT2 cd and it worked flawlessly. Even the music worked during the intro! The disadvantage of VGS is that you can hardly configure anything: You can't improve the gfx like you can with ePSXe. It does support joysticks, but only the old PS1 joysticks, without the analogue stick. Still, if you want to use a wheel with GT2, so far I think VGS is the best solution. There are a lot of mods for these emu's out there, I'll post here if I find an even better solution to run GT2 with a wheel. Andre

Deadzone problems...yeah, me too. My wheel only has a 180� travel and yet I seem to have a 160� deadzone! ..kind of fun reefing the wheel from side to side just to make minor corrections though ; )

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:37:55 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Deadzone problems...yeah, me too. My wheel only has a 180� travel and yet I >seem to have a 160� deadzone! ..kind of fun reefing the wheel from side to >side just to make minor corrections though ; ) Yup, I really don't like those analogue playstation controllers with those 2 little sticks, I want to play GT2 with a wheel.. Haven't found a fix so far :-/ Andre

Johnny Long <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > I didn't know that all of the buttons were pressure sensitive. I have never > seen anyone mention this before except for the shoulder buttons. I stand > corrected and I apologize for my confusion. No problem :-)

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:45 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:37:55 +1000, "Damien Smith" ><[email hidden]> wrote: >hi Andre, There is a version of bleem that works with GT2. Version 1.6b. Not sure if it addresses the controller deadzone issues. I'm sure you'll be able to locate it. Regards all, istoff

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> [email hidden] (Nick) wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > I have a PS2 and I can assure you that the DualShock 2 is completely > > analogue. Using the pad with GT3, you can hold the car on the revs you > > want on the start line by varying the pressure on 'X'. In DropShip, if > > you press the throttle button in *real* hard, you engage afterburner. > > In Madden NFL 2002, if you watch a replay, you can adjust how fast you > > skip through it by varying the pressure on the shoulder buttons (light > > press - slow motion; hard press - fast forward; and a smooth speed > > increase in between). > > I didn't know that all of the buttons were pressure sensitive. I have

never > seen anyone mention this before except for the shoulder buttons. I stand > corrected and I apologize for my confusion. > Yep, they're all quite analog. Oh, one more thing worth mentioning - the two sticks are actually buttons as well. I didn't realize this until I first played GTA3 and kept looking for "L3" and "R3"... Milhouse *going back to mash thumbs with GTA:VC*

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:59:58 +0200, istoff <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:45 +0100, Andre Warringa ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:37:55 +1000, "Damien Smith" >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >hi Andre, > >There is a version of bleem that works with GT2. Version 1.6b. >Not sure if it addresses the controller deadzone issues. >I'm sure you'll be able to locate it. > >Regards all, >istoff

Ah, thanks for the tip! I tried version 1.5b, but that one doesn't work with GT2 (at least I couldn't get GT2 running with it). It's a bit hard to get a working copy of 1.6b, especially since Bleem is as dead as a doornail, but I'll give it a shot :) Andre

Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > PS Do you know if Driver 2 runs on this emu? I just D/L epsxe and can confirm that Driver 2 runs on it. I had some graphical issues in the menu, but the game was perfectly fine (if a little fast for what I am used to). The menu problem is probably due to me not bothering to configure anything - literally 5 minutes between clicking the downloads and playing the game.

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: >Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish >racer for very little money? Ok, I gave up on fixing the wheel/deadzone problem, and I bought a rumblepad for $40. Works perfect, to my surprise even the 'force feedback' works. Thanks again for the suggestion Ed, having a -blast- here, been a long time since I had so much pure fun with a game :) BTW, could you post the settings you use? Especially the gfx settings. Cheers, Andre

On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:08:16 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish >>racer for very little money? > >Ok, I gave up on fixing the wheel/deadzone problem, and I bought a >rumblepad for $40. Works perfect, to my surprise even the 'force >feedback' works. Thanks again for the suggestion Ed, having a -blast- >here, been a long time since I had so much pure fun with a game :) > >BTW, could you post the settings you use? Especially the gfx settings. > >Cheers, >Andre

Andre these are my plugins. They should work fine for you! VIDEO http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/gpu.htm http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/gpupete165.zip - Pete's Open GL driver 1.64 SOUND http://www.vg-network.com/dl.phtml?files/utils/gpupeopssoftwin106.zip P.E.Op.S. DSound Audio Driver 1.1 Enable Sound Enable CDDA Sound Enable XA Sound and Xa Read CD ROM: Included with ePSXe emulator ePSXe CDR ASPI core 1.5.1. ENABLE STD. CD Rom TIMING ENABLE SUBCHANNEL SUPPORT

On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:28:35 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:08:16 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> >>wrote: >> >>>Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish >>>racer for very little money? >> >>Ok, I gave up on fixing the wheel/deadzone problem, and I bought a >>rumblepad for $40. Works perfect, to my surprise even the 'force >>feedback' works. Thanks again for the suggestion Ed, having a -blast- >>here, been a long time since I had so much pure fun with a game :) >> >>BTW, could you post the settings you use? Especially the gfx settings. >> >>Cheers, >>Andre

Oops, I forgot my video settings. Here's what I use in Pete's Open GL Driver: : fullscreen mode-checked : : desktop 1024x768 color depth 32 bit : : change desktop settings checked : : texture quality R8 G8 B8 A8 - Best Colors, more ram needed : : texture filtering 6:Extended + smoothed sprites : : gfx card vram size 64mb : : smart texture garbage collection - checked : : hi-res textures - checked : : show fps - checked : : use fps limit - checked : : fps limit 60 fps : : compatibility: : : off-screen drawing 3:enhanced : : framebuffer textures 0: emulated vram : : framebuffer vram 0: ok for most games : : framebuffer access 0: : : alpha multi-pass - checked : : Nothing else on config screen checked.. : : This gives solid 60fps, and looks nice! : : My system: P4-2.4 / 512rdram / Gef3-64mb

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>Andre these are my plugins. They should work fine for you! > >VIDEO > > http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/gpu.htm > http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/gpupete165.zip > >- Pete's Open GL driver 1.64 > >SOUND > > http://www.vg-network.com/dl.phtml?files/utils/gpupeopssoftwin106.zip > >P.E.Op.S. DSound Audio Driver 1.1 > Enable Sound > Enable CDDA Sound > Enable XA Sound and Xa Read > >CD ROM: >Included with ePSXe emulator ePSXe CDR ASPI core 1.5.1. > ENABLE STD. CD Rom TIMING > ENABLE SUBCHANNEL SUPPORT

On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:43:48 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: >Oops, I forgot my video settings. Cheers, I'll give them a try! Andre

Can you tell me what settings you used, or what plug-in's you found that allow the Sony Dual-Shock 2 controler to work with ePSXe? I can't seem to be able to configure the analog settings in the game, nor does it seem to have force-feedback through the gamepad. I was able to configure it through the pad1/pad2 gamepad settings but am a bit unsure what settings to use for force-feedback and analog in ePSXe. Thank you in advance! Jay J rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:28:35 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:08:16 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:13 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> > >>wrote: > >> > >>>Can I make a suggestion to those that want a fantastic sim-mish > >>>racer for very little money? > >> > >>Ok, I gave up on fixing the wheel/deadzone problem, and I bought a > >>rumblepad for $40. Works perfect, to my surprise even the 'force > >>feedback' works. Thanks again for the suggestion Ed, having a -blast- > >>here, been a long time since I had so much pure fun with a game :) > >> > >>BTW, could you post the settings you use? Especially the gfx settings. > >> > >>Cheers, > >>Andre > > Oops, I forgot my video settings. > > Here's what I use in Pete's Open GL Driver: > > : fullscreen mode-checked > : > : desktop 1024x768 color depth 32 bit > : > : change desktop settings checked > : > : texture quality R8 G8 B8 A8 - Best Colors, more ram needed > : > : texture filtering 6:Extended + smoothed sprites > : > : gfx card vram size 64mb > : > : smart texture garbage collection - checked > : > : hi-res textures - checked > : > : show fps - checked > : > : use fps limit - checked > : > : fps limit 60 fps > : > : compatibility: > : > : off-screen drawing 3:enhanced > : > : framebuffer textures 0: emulated vram > : > : framebuffer vram 0: ok for most games > : > : framebuffer access 0: > : > : alpha multi-pass - checked > : > : Nothing else on config screen checked.. > : > : This gives solid 60fps, and looks nice! > : > : My system: P4-2.4 / 512rdram / Gef3-64mb > > >Andre these are my plugins. They should work fine for you! > > > >VIDEO > > > > http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/gpu.htm > > http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/gpupete165.zip > > > >- Pete's Open GL driver 1.64 > > > >SOUND > > > > http://www.vg-network.com/dl.phtml?files/utils/gpupeopssoftwin106.zip > > > >P.E.Op.S. DSound Audio Driver 1.1 > > Enable Sound > > Enable CDDA Sound > > Enable XA Sound and Xa Read > > > >CD ROM: > >Included with ePSXe emulator ePSXe CDR ASPI core 1.5.1. > > ENABLE STD. CD Rom TIMING > > ENABLE SUBCHANNEL SUPPORT