Help in building a DOS based system for ICRII....

Hey Guys, I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system for ICRII. I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version of Dos 6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... Later Jim

If you are asking if you can trick the 6.2 upgrade disk into installing without having DOS 5 installed, no you can't. you will need a set of DOS 5 disks. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Jim Douglas <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qeXu9.23425$[email hidden]... > Hey Guys, > I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system for ICRII. > I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with > the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version of Dos > 6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there > anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... > Later > Jim > >

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:35:50 GMT, "Jim Douglas" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hey Guys, >I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system for ICRII. >I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with >the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version of Dos >6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there >anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... >Later >Jim >

Hi, Did a search in google for "dos boot disk images" and found http://www.bootdisk.com/ and http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/bootdisks/secret.shtml (german disks), and so on and so on. Don't do anything illegal! For any other ICR2 fans, have a search and download VDMSound if you want to play in XP. Allows full digital sound and even my MS FF Wheel works fine. Love that Elkhart Lake!!! Regards all, istoff

Thanks for the info and links I appreciate it. Would I be better of just installing the full version of Win98 and then going to a dos window and running it from there? I'm only doing this for ICRII and Soda for the Rendition versions. Thanks Jim "istoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:35:50 GMT, "Jim Douglas" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Hey Guys, > >I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system forICRII. > >I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with > >the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version ofDos

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> >6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there > >anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... > >Later > >Jim > > > Hi, > > Did a search in google for "dos boot disk images" > > > and found http://www.bootdisk.com/ and > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/bootdisks/secret.shtml (german disks), > > and so on and so on. > > Don't do anything illegal! > > For any other ICR2 fans, have a search and download VDMSound if you > want to play in XP. Allows full digital sound and even my MS FF Wheel > works fine. Love that Elkhart Lake!!! > > > > Regards all, > istoff

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:48:44 GMT, "Jim Douglas" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks for the info and links I appreciate it. Would I be better of just >installing the full version of Win98 >and then going to a dos window and running it from there? I'm only doing >this for ICRII and Soda for the >Rendition versions. >Thanks >Jim

Just make a Win98 startup disk or download one. Boot up with it and then do a "sys a: c:" to transfer it to the harddrive, then dos is installed. You'll probably need sound drivers for dos and edit the autoexec.bat or config.sys to load up other stuff like mouse drivers. -- karkrazy AT softhome DOT net http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

"Jim Douglas" > this for ICRII and Soda for the > Rendition versions. > Thanks > Jim > "istoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Oh you Dog...I've been looking for an original Rendition card for two years...JUST for those two titles.. I would avoid win98 if possible. Mainly for soundcard reasons. You will want your soundblaster emulation running on either irq 5 or 7. The dos standard sound numbers were, if memory serves, irq 5 dma 3 (something I forgot) 1. You will also want a regular non-ff non digital joystick or wheel. An old TM part would work. Newer digital wheels won't be recognized by either dos or ICR2. (soda did have a first generation FF component tho..) To install the dos update, all you need is an image of the older dos boot disk. THe dos setup program just asks for the disk once for Copy Protection and then carries on with the install. dave henrie

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> > Hey Guys, > I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system for ICRII. > I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with > the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version of Dos > 6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there > anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... > Later > Jim

I've got a set of disks titled "PC-DOS Version 6.1 with Compression." There are five disks in all. I don't know if mine are upgrade disks or originals, I've never even used them. If you think you might have a use for them, you can have them. Gary

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> Hey Guys, > I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system for ICRII. > I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with > the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version of Dos > 6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there > anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... > Later > Jim

I've got a set of disks titled "PC-DOS Version 6.1 with Compression." There are five disks in all. I don't know if mine are upgrade disks or originals, I've never even used them. If you think you might have a use for them, you can have them. Gary

Well I downloaded the image disc I think I need plus I have all my original SoundBlaster 16 discs and an Original Thrustmaster Nascar Pro wheel (non-FF) and a Thrustmaster game card. I've got a CH gamecard also if needed. I put everything together with a Abit BX-6 m/b and a Celeron 266 Slot 1 chip and just the h/d,floppy and video card. When you turn the power on everything powers up then I get the check signal error on the monitor. I'm not sure if there would be some kind of problem with this video card on this m/b or not. I've got a Geforce 2 agp I'll try in it tomorrow night and see if I get anything then. Thanks again for all advice and anymore offered. later Jim "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:an0v9.129474$qM2.41069@sccrnsc02...

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> > "Jim Douglas" > this for ICRII and Soda for the > > Rendition versions. > > Thanks > > Jim > > "istoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > Oh you Dog...I've been looking for an original Rendition card for two > years...JUST for those two titles.. > I would avoid win98 if possible. Mainly for soundcard reasons. You will > want your soundblaster emulation running on either irq 5 or 7. The dos > standard sound numbers were, if memory serves, irq 5 dma 3 (something I > forgot) 1. You will also want a regular non-ff non digital joystick or > wheel. An old TM part would work. Newer digital wheels won't be

recognized > by either dos or ICR2. (soda did have a first generation FF component > tho..) > To install the dos update, all you need is an image of the olderdos > boot disk. THe dos setup program just asks for the disk once for Copy > Protection and then carries on with the install. > dave henrie > >

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:26:30 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Oh you Dog...I've been looking for an original Rendition card for two >years...JUST for those two titles.. I'm surprised there's never been a wrapper written to allow rendition games to be run with opengl or direct3d via emulation... Jason

Gary, Thanks for the offer but I think I can do it from the sites listed above. Right now my big problem is even getting the system to boot up. I've tried three video cards pci and agp and still get the "check signal" message on the monitor. At least I almost know it's not my Reactor 3D card. I've found a Soyo m/b online that I can put another Celeron 566 chip I have in the garage. I can get that m/b for 36 bucks so it may be worth a try. It only has one ISA slot so hopefully I wouldn't need more than one. I've got the SB16 isa card and my TM gamecard that is isa. I do have a SB live pci card. I wonder if that would work? I'm not sure if it would work under dos or not. Will ICRII work with the gameport on the soundcard? The steering wheel I mean. Thanks again for any info. Later Jim "Gary" <"the_g_man"@(nospam)excel.net> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > Hey Guys, > > I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system forICRII. > > I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with > > the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version ofDos

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> > 6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there > > anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... > > Later > > Jim > > I've got a set of disks titled "PC-DOS Version 6.1 with Compression." > There are five disks in all. I don't know if mine are upgrade disks or > originals, I've never even used them. If you think you might have a use > for them, you can have them. > > Gary

Jim Douglas wrote: > > I do have a SB live pci card. I wonder if that would work? I'm > not sure if it would work under dos or not. It should, I ran N2 under DOS with a SB Live card, the first one, installing the drivers could be a bit of a hassle though, I'm not sure if they have a DOS based installation routine....so you might have to install Win9x of some flavor > Will ICRII work with the gameport on the soundcard? The steering wheel I > mean. Yes, provided you get the drivers for the soundcard installed properly Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

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> > Gary, > Thanks for the offer but I think I can do it from the sites listed above. > Right now my big problem is even > getting the system to boot up. I've tried three video cards pci and agp and > still get the "check signal" message > on the monitor. At least I almost know it's not my Reactor 3D card. I've > found a Soyo m/b online that I can put > another Celeron 566 chip I have in the garage. I can get that m/b for 36 > bucks so it may be worth a try. It only > has one ISA slot so hopefully I wouldn't need more than one. I've got the > SB16 isa card and my TM gamecard > that is isa. I do have a SB live pci card. I wonder if that would work? I'm > not sure if it would work under dos or not. > Will ICRII work with the gameport on the soundcard? The steering wheel I > mean. > Thanks again for any info. > Later > Jim

If you do decide you want the disks, shoot me an email. Gary

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> > "Gary" <"the_g_man"@(nospam)excel.net> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system for > ICRII. > > > I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with > > > the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version of > Dos > > > 6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there > > > anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... > > > Later > > > Jim > > > > I've got a set of disks titled "PC-DOS Version 6.1 with Compression." > > There are five disks in all. I don't know if mine are upgrade disks or > > originals, I've never even used them. If you think you might have a use > > for them, you can have them. > > > > Gary

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> Gary, > Thanks for the offer but I think I can do it from the sites listed above. > Right now my big problem is even > getting the system to boot up. I've tried three video cards pci and agp and > still get the "check signal" message > on the monitor. At least I almost know it's not my Reactor 3D card. I've > found a Soyo m/b online that I can put > another Celeron 566 chip I have in the garage. I can get that m/b for 36 > bucks so it may be worth a try. It only > has one ISA slot so hopefully I wouldn't need more than one. I've got the > SB16 isa card and my TM gamecard > that is isa. I do have a SB live pci card. I wonder if that would work? I'm > not sure if it would work under dos or not. > Will ICRII work with the gameport on the soundcard? The steering wheel I > mean. > Thanks again for any info. > Later > Jim

If you do decide you want the disks, shoot me an email. Gary

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> > > Hey Guys, > > > I've got enough stuff in the garage to build a DOS based system for > ICRII. > > > I've got an original "Reactor" Rendition card a SB-16 with > > > the Roland Sound adapter. The problem is I have the "upgrade" version of > Dos > > > 6.2 and 6.22 but can't find my original DOS disks. Is there > > > anyway to get this installed and working? Thanks for any advice... > > > Later > > > Jim > > I've got a set of disks titled "PC-DOS Version 6.1 with Compression." > > There are five disks in all. I don't know if mine are upgrade disks or > > originals, I've never even used them. If you think you might have a use > > for them, you can have them. > > Gary

Well I got everything installed and working. Didn't need a full Dos disk after all. When you use a disk tools disk like Western Digital ships with their drives it just asks you to put the disk in you are using for your OS and it installs everything from there. I installed Dos 6.22 and got the ICR-II Rendition version up any running. Very cool to drive a Indycar again. Then I installed Win95 to run Soda. I forgot Soda needed Windows to run. I figured since I was installing windows anyway I would put my two Monster Voodoo II's 12mb cards in and reinstall SCGT and run it in Voodoo mode. I got all the updates and patches installed and played that for over two hours today. Even installed the old Microsoft Cart game with the Voodoo patch. Anyway it was well worth the effort and the $36.75 for the new m/b was money well spent. Had a pretty fun weekend reinstalling all this stuff and digging into the rusty parts of my brain to remember all the Dos commands :) Anybody know of a site that has all the converted tracks ready to download?? I found this site but no tracks http://www.shanepitkin.com/velocity/icr2_rendition.html Thanks for the help and advice Later Jim

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> Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > I do have a SB live pci card. I wonder if that would work? I'm > > not sure if it would work under dos or not. > > It should, I ran N2 under DOS with a SB Live card, the first one, > installing the drivers could be a bit of a hassle though, I'm not sure > if they have a DOS based installation routine....so you might have to > install Win9x of some flavor > > > Will ICRII work with the gameport on the soundcard? The steering wheel I > > mean. > > Yes, provided you get the drivers for the soundcard installed properly > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx--

Velocity was THE place to get stuff....I think there is still an ICR2 league out there...not sure what to surf for tho... dave henrie (ps...check out if the uspits still has the GTP mod for ICR2 in it's archives.) dave henrie "Jim Douglas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:n6lx9.4960$[email hidden]...

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> Well I got everything installed and working. Didn't need a full Dos disk > after all. When you use a disk tools > disk like Western Digital ships with their drives it just asks you to put > the disk in you are using for your > OS and it installs everything from there. I installed Dos 6.22 and got the > ICR-II Rendition version up any running. > Very cool to drive a Indycar again. Then I installed Win95 to run Soda. I > forgot Soda needed Windows to run. > I figured since I was installing windows anyway I would put my two Monster > Voodoo II's 12mb cards in and reinstall > SCGT and run it in Voodoo mode. I got all the updates and patches

installed > and played that for over two hours today. > Even installed the old Microsoft Cart game with the Voodoo patch. > Anyway it was well worth the effort and the $36.75 for the new m/b wasmoney > well spent. Had a pretty fun weekend > reinstalling all this stuff and digging into the rusty parts of my brainto > remember all the Dos commands :) > Anybody know of a site that has all the converted tracks ready todownload??

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> I found this site but no tracks > http://www.shanepitkin.com/velocity/icr2_rendition.html > Thanks for the help and advice > Later > Jim > > > > Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > > > I do have a SB live pci card. I wonder if that would work? I'm > > > not sure if it would work under dos or not. > > > > It should, I ran N2 under DOS with a SB Live card, the first one, > > installing the drivers could be a bit of a hassle though, I'm not sure > > if they have a DOS based installation routine....so you might have to > > install Win9x of some flavor > > > > > Will ICRII work with the gameport on the soundcard? The steering wheel

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> > > mean. > > > > Yes, provided you get the drivers for the soundcard installed properly > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > > --Groucho Marx-- > >

Dave, I've got that mod somewhere on a old cd-r. I'm still tweaking and installing old games to try out. Guess it pays to be a pack rat sometimes. Are you going to try getting a card and build you one? I've really enjoyed ICR-II and SCGT more than anything else. I just haven't been able to get into Soda. It's pretty jerky video wise with this system. If I can find a m/b I've got a Slot 1 P3-600e and I may draft everything over to it to get a little more horsepower. Later Jim "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mhmx9.487$ar4.101574@sccrnsc03...

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> Velocity was THE place to get stuff....I think there is still an ICR2 > league out there...not sure what to surf for tho... > > dave henrie > (ps...check out if the uspits still has the GTP mod for ICR2 in it's > archives.) > dave henrie > "Jim Douglas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:n6lx9.4960$[email hidden]... > > Well I got everything installed and working. Didn't need a full Dos disk > > after all. When you use a disk tools > > disk like Western Digital ships with their drives it just asks you to

put > > the disk in you are using for your > > OS and it installs everything from there. I installed Dos 6.22 and gotthe > > ICR-II Rendition version up any running. > > Very cool to drive a Indycar again. Then I installed Win95 to run Soda.I > > forgot Soda needed Windows to run. > > I figured since I was installing windows anyway I would put my twoMonster

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> > Voodoo II's 12mb cards in and reinstall > > SCGT and run it in Voodoo mode. I got all the updates and patches > installed > > and played that for over two hours today. > > Even installed the old Microsoft Cart game with the Voodoo patch. > > Anyway it was well worth the effort and the $36.75 for the new m/b was > money > > well spent. Had a pretty fun weekend > > reinstalling all this stuff and digging into the rusty parts of my brain > to > > remember all the Dos commands :) > > Anybody know of a site that has all the converted tracks ready to > download?? > > I found this site but no tracks > > http://www.shanepitkin.com/velocity/icr2_rendition.html > > Thanks for the help and advice > > Later > > Jim > > > > > > > Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > > > > > I do have a SB live pci card. I wonder if that would work? I'm > > > > not sure if it would work under dos or not. > > > > > > It should, I ran N2 under DOS with a SB Live card, the first one, > > > installing the drivers could be a bit of a hassle though, I'm not sure > > > if they have a DOS based installation routine....so you might have to > > > install Win9x of some flavor > > > > > > > Will ICRII work with the gameport on the soundcard? The steering

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> I > > > > mean. > > > > > > Yes, provided you get the drivers for the soundcard installed properly > > > > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > > (uncle) Goy > > > > > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > > > --Groucho Marx-- > > > > > >

Jason, I'm building...or, rather, ressurecting, a DOS system too. Let's compare notes! --Steve "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:26:30 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > Oh you Dog...I've been looking for an original Rendition card for two > >years...JUST for those two titles.. > > I'm surprised there's never been a wrapper written to allow rendition > games to be run with opengl or direct3d via emulation... > > Jason