Saw it today at CompUSA
"Pking" wrote...
> Saw it today at CompUSA
Do you own and like any of he previous titles?
Jan.
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>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Do you own and like any of he previous titles?
Liking F1GP or GP2 would still mean nothing about him liking GP4. 8)
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> Yea, that's my opinion of it too. Everytime I see the box at the store
> I am tempted to buy it but then I come to my senses and remember all
> the negative comments about it and realize it's not goign to top
> F12002 anyway. Maybe GP5.
F1 2002 is a bit lame and GP4 is even lamer in virtually every department.
Pking wrote:
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> Saw it today at CompUSA
It's utter rubbish, imo.
Gerry
I just own F12002.
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> "Pking" wrote... > > Saw it today at CompUSA > > Do you own and like any of he previous titles? > > Jan. > =--- > >Well, if you had listened to all the people around here praise crammond
right before GP3 came out then you would have to deduce that anything he put
out was golden. When GP3 came out everyone still seemed to think he was a
god (even when they were told the game was rubbish). Now GP4. I think
everyone has finally gotten the picture that Crammond is actually not a very
good programmer and has milked the same old lame game engine long enouph.
The weather effects are good but that is the ONLY thing good about it.
Vintook
"Pking" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Saw it today at CompUSA
>
>
>"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Well, if you had listened to all the people around here praise crammond
> right before GP3 came out then you would have to deduce that anything heput
> out was golden. When GP3 came out everyone still seemed to think he was a
> god
W-w-what? Everybody in this NG, just looking at the pictures and all the PR
behind the release of GP3 knew that it would only be a mere evolution, not a
revolution of Crammond's game engine. We already knew it was still slowing
real-time instead of dropping frames (there were screenshots with the
Processor Occupancy). You could still see all the usual flat and
extra-grainy textures in those early pics (they were in Australia).
Everybody could "feel" that it was going to be bad ;)
Really, check out google!
> I think everyone has finally gotten the picture that Crammond is actuallynot a very
> good programmer and has milked the same old lame game engine long enouph.
Yes, yes in that I agree 8)
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> I just own F12002.
Stick with it.
That's a tough one. I think it's the most accurate driving simulator
available. But I'm likely the only one, in this room anyway. I find F12002
majority disappointing by comparison. It's been my experience that once I
"got" the way the drive is realized, the tire presentation is the most
complete in an sim I've played. (All the majors are on my machine right
now.) (Also, it only took me a few hours to "sink in" to the sims style.)
The perspective is among the best in that eye strain is at a minimum when
looking properly up the track, and the track are stunning. Almost as good as
SBK2K.
If you can return it, pick it up and spend as much time as they allow with
it.
PS Force feedback is strictly out with this title. (Or any title from now
until the next evolution desktop mechanical devices.)
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mark
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> Saw it today at CompUSA
>
>
"Damien Smith" wrote...
> > I just own F12002.
>
> Stick with it.
Sorry for late reply, but Damien is right. IMO you're very unlikely to get
to grips with GP4 if you're not used to "the Crammond way".
Not saying Geoff makes poor quality games per se (GP4 is a polished effort
if you can agree to it's "terms of use"), just that they carry a lot of
hanovers from an earlier era of coding/gaming.
Jan.
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"mark jeangerard" wrote...
> That's a tough one. I think it's the most accurate driving
> simulator available. But I'm likely the only one, in this
> room anyway.
It's the best non-FF sim around. Pity the game allows the user the option to
destroy the illusion. Another limiting factor is that I'm now a complete and
utter FF junkie.
> I find F12002 majority disappointing by comparison.
F1 2k2 is a nice (FF) drive, but the tracks.... I mean, I've never been much
of a stickler for track accuracy, but... DAMN!!!
> It's been my experience that once I "got" the way the
> drive is realized, the tire presentation is the most
> complete in an sim I've played. (All the majors are on
> my machine right now.) Also, it only took me a few
> hours to "sink in" to the sims style.
I wonder how much of that is due to (our) long acquaintance with the game
series and Geoff's way of doing things.
> The perspective is among the best in that eye strain
> is at a minimum when looking properly up the track,
> and the track are stunning. Almost as good as SBK2K.
True... the tracks are big improvement over the previous titles. The view is
a little "static" for my taste nowadays, but it does the job admirably.
> If you can return it, pick it up and spend as much
> time as they allow with it.
I have little hope of a Crammond novice getting his wheel set up in this
incarnation, let alone him getting to sample the driving, sorry.
> PS Force feedback is strictly out with this title.
Correct.
> (Or any title from now until the next evolution desktop
> mechanical devices.)
Disagree, but we've talked through this already.
Jan.
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> they carry a lot of
> hanovers from an earlier era of coding/gaming.
That'll be the German version...
"Tony Rickard" wrote...
> > they carry a lot of hanovers from an earlier
> > era of coding/gaming.
>
> That'll be the German version...
LOL ;-)
Jan.
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