Where is all the GTR2 Traffic?

I don't get it. Hell, even _I_ bought it :) -Larry

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> I don't get it. > > Hell, even _I_ bought it :) > > -Larry > >

I'm having too much fun with RFactor to bother with anything else.

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> I don't get it. > > Hell, even _I_ bought it :) > > -Larry > >

I just picked it up yesterday, but only have about an hour of time into it. I was extremely impressed with it for the little time I have in it. Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend to get online and race a little. -- Scott B. Husted http://www.RacingHistorian.com

It's the best thing going atm(IMHO). Great sim. Chad "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Larry wrote: >> I don't get it. >> >> Hell, even _I_ bought it :) >> >> -Larry > > I just picked it up yesterday, but only have about an hour of time into > it. I was extremely impressed with it for the little time I have in it. > > Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend to get online and race a little. > > -- > Scott B. Husted > http://www.RacingHistorian.com

Larry wrote: > I don't get it. > > Hell, even _I_ bought it :) > > -Larry It is still not released in many places. No sign of it in the UK so I believe a lot of us are just waiting rather than ordering from other countries. Cheers Tony

Yes, looks like it's slipped in most places to Oct 6th and those of us lucky enough to have picked up an ebay copy haven't had time because our mates are still driving GTR and GTL. Andi. "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4B6Rg.23389$[email hidden]...

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> Larry wrote: >> I don't get it. >> >> Hell, even _I_ bought it :) >> >> -Larry > > It is still not released in many places. No sign of it in the UK so I > believe a lot of us are just waiting rather than ordering from other > countries. > > Cheers > Tony

Most people don't have it yet...pre-ordered mine, coming on Tuesday. Best Buy has it ,not sure if all over the US. Steve P

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Most people don't have it yet...pre-ordered mine, coming on Tuesday. > Best Buy has it ,not sure if all over the US. Steve P >I am pretty sure that Best Buy has it fairly nation wide for $19.99. I got mine Tues. I like it a lot. I am have a bit of a problem with the FF on my black Momo... Tried it on normal and reversed effects but no go yet. I like the "bouncing around" effects in cockpit view on the bumps. It really gets intense....... Ed

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> Larry wrote: >> I don't get it. >> >> Hell, even _I_ bought it :) >> >> -Larry > > I just picked it up yesterday, but only have about an hour of time into > it. I was extremely impressed with it for the little time I have in it. > > Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend to get online and race a little. > > -- > Scott B. Husted > http://www.RacingHistorian.com

Ditto - picked it up Thursday at BB (great deal), just in time for my 21" CRT at home to go south. Timing.... Grabbed a 17" LCD from the office to use over the weekend and got my first look at it online yesterday. Works pretty much the same as GTL from what I can see so far - saw some issues with disappearing cars, especially on the grid, but mostly pretty stable. Lots of fun too; first online race was a 20-lapper at Valencia in the pouring rain after dry practice and qualy on slicks. Talk about an adjustment; certainly no issues with excess grip there! Ended up tip-toeing to 2nd OA, 1st G2 in the Vette, short-shifting and pedaling it everywhere to keep the torque from biting me in the arse. Which it did on several occasions anyway - Motec histogram said full throttle about 25% of the time. Had some fun with the driving school, learning mostly that my DFP pedals suck for brake modulation (but I already knew that). Would rewire my trusty CH pedals into the DFP harness if a G25 wasn't on the horizon. New wheel to come, new 22" widescreen already on the way; that twenty bucks is getting expensive... ;-) SB

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> "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>Larry wrote: >> >>>I don't get it. >>> >>>Hell, even _I_ bought it :) >>> >>>-Larry >> >>I just picked it up yesterday, but only have about an hour of time into >>it. I was extremely impressed with it for the little time I have in it. >> >>Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend to get online and race a little. >> >>-- >>Scott B. Husted >>http://www.RacingHistorian.com > > > > Ditto - picked it up Thursday at BB (great deal), just in time for my 21" > CRT at home to go south. Timing.... > > Grabbed a 17" LCD from the office to use over the weekend and got my first > look at it online yesterday. Works pretty much the same as GTL from what I > can see so far - saw some issues with disappearing cars, especially on the > grid, but mostly pretty stable. Lots of fun too; first online race was a > 20-lapper at Valencia in the pouring rain after dry practice and qualy on > slicks. Talk about an adjustment; certainly no issues with excess grip > there! Ended up tip-toeing to 2nd OA, 1st G2 in the Vette, short-shifting > and pedaling it everywhere to keep the torque from biting me in the arse. > Which it did on several occasions anyway - Motec histogram said full > throttle about 25% of the time. > > Had some fun with the driving school, learning mostly that my DFP pedals > suck for brake modulation (but I already knew that). Would rewire my trusty > CH pedals into the DFP harness if a G25 wasn't on the horizon. New wheel to > come, new 22" widescreen already on the way; that twenty bucks is getting > expensive... ;-) > > SB > >

Steve.. I hear ya. I have a Dell 20in Widescreen and it looks great. I've been "needing" to upgrade my PC for about a year now, but to be honest... my P4-3.0ghz, 2GB of Ram, and X800XT AIW card is actually still performing pretty darn well, even with GTR2. The G25 is definitely going to be coming soon, and I'll put my Red MOMO and ECCI 3000 pedals up on EBAY shortly there after I imagine. I'm already working on re-desinging my custom dashboard box I built to work with the G25 and it's button configuration for the wheel/shifter. I'm going to run with the G25 pedals first, and see how they are and if they are decent, I'll probably buy an ECCI pedal set to match up with the wheel. I downloaded the MOTEC interpreter, etc... but I haven't really played with it that much to learn all the useful information that can be gathered on there. I'm afraid there is a "sucking" baseline chart that will have a line pegged at the top for my laps.... ;) -- Scott B. Husted http://www.RacingHistorian.com

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> I don't get it. > > Hell, even _I_ bought it :) > > -Larry > >

well i bought it and the online play is great.. just cant believe more people havent bought it or gotten online.. get off your butt , go spend the 20.00 and lets race!!

"...new 22" widescreen already on the way..." Steve, would that be the new Samsung? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703If so please let us know how you like it, as I'm thinking about grabbingone. TIA See ya in the pits, DeanI have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember howlong it's been since I've forgotten anything.

Oops, bad link. Try this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703 -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CmQRg.31$[email hidden]... > "...new 22" widescreen already on the way..." > > Steve, would that be the new Samsung? > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703If > so please let us know how you like it, as I'm thinking about grabbingone. > TIA See ya in the pits, > DeanI have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember > howlong it's been since I've forgotten anything. >

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> Oops, bad link. Try this: > > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703 > > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Dean > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CmQRg.31$[email hidden]... >> "...new 22" widescreen already on the way..." >> >> Steve, would that be the new Samsung? >> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703If >> so please let us know how you like it, as I'm thinking about grabbingone. >> TIA See ya in the pits, DeanI have a >> terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember howlong it's >> been since I've forgotten anything. >> >

Yup, that's the one. Widest thing I have desk space for, and only 1/2" wider at the case than my big old (dead) 21" Dell CRT. Killer price point they're hitting with that; there are cheaper ones but the Samsung looks to be the only 22" out right now with an 8-bit panel. The color banding on 6-bit panels always annoys me. Not much info out on them yet but you can find a review here and there; looks to be best for gaming and general use, maybe not the best for Artwork. Should be a good match for my purposes. A review: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=336&p=1 Should have it in a couple of days - will let you know how it goes. SB

I noticed the exact same thing with my Black Momo pedals. It's more of a switch than a gradual brake application. I noticed the same issues in rFactor. The accellerator is pretty notchy too. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, wham! There is almost no low-throttle modulation there. Hopefully the G25 I have ordered as well will be a LOT better. -Larry "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> Had some fun with the driving school, learning mostly that my DFP pedals > suck for brake modulation (but I already knew that). Would rewire my > trusty CH pedals into the DFP harness if a G25 wasn't on the horizon. New > wheel to come, new 22" widescreen already on the way; that twenty bucks is > getting expensive... ;-) > > SB >

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>I noticed the exact same thing with my Black Momo pedals. It's more of a >switch than a gradual brake application. > > I noticed the same issues in rFactor. > > The accellerator is pretty notchy too. Nothing, nothing, nothing, > nothing, wham! There is almost no low-throttle modulation there. >

In all ISI games, you get only half of the throttle movement if you first calibrate gas bedal and then brake pedal. So the first half is nothing and then it goes from 0 to 100% in the 50% of the pedal movement. You should calibrate/assign brake first and then throttle, to get the full motion of the gas pedal recognized. -- Mika Takala

No shit. I did not know that! -Larry "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NgURg.19761$[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pTSRg.403$2g4.278@dukeread09... >>I noticed the exact same thing with my Black Momo pedals. It's more of a >>switch than a gradual brake application. >> >> I noticed the same issues in rFactor. >> >> The accellerator is pretty notchy too. Nothing, nothing, nothing, >> nothing, wham! There is almost no low-throttle modulation there. >> > > In all ISI games, you get only half of the throttle movement if you first > calibrate gas bedal and then brake pedal. So the first half is nothing and > then it goes from 0 to 100% in the 50% of the pedal movement. > > You should calibrate/assign brake first and then throttle, to get the full > motion of the gas pedal recognized. > > -- > Mika Takala >

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> > In all ISI games, you get only half of the throttle movement if you first > calibrate gas bedal and then brake pedal. So the first half is nothing and > then it goes from 0 to 100% in the 50% of the pedal movement. > > You should calibrate/assign brake first and then throttle, to get the full > motion of the gas pedal recognized. > >

New to me (all ISI games/any (?) pedals/gas then brake). I have heard and experienced Logitech pedals losing calibration due to the constant auto-calibration routines getting mixed up. Seriously, do you have any links? Corroboration? MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8 SEARCHING FOR GPL LOADING READY. RUN

Still waiting here in the UK. I have been really enjoying the latest rFactor mods, but I always preferred the GT Legends graphics style over rFactor. The GTR2 demo looks a tad more polished again to me. A "softer" look which to me at least looks more realistic. I for one like the rain effects in the GTR2 demo, forgetting the wiper debate for now, dealing with the spray is an added dimension. I am looking forward to trying the NGTs in GTR2. For some reason I have never been a fan of the GTs, I prefer the 360s and 911s. Any feedback from those that have tried it so far? Cheers Tony

Thanks for the info Steve. I'm looking forward to hearing your impressions of it. I'm kinda on the fence right now as I do a lot of work in Photoshop and the word is that it might not be the optimal monitor for that. I'll keep my eyes peeled for your updates. -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KsQRg.32$[email hidden]... >> Oops, bad link. Try this: >> >> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703 >> >> >> -- >> See ya in the pits, >> Dean >> >> I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how >> long it's been since I've forgotten anything. >> >> "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:CmQRg.31$[email hidden]... >>> "...new 22" widescreen already on the way..." >>> >>> Steve, would that be the new Samsung? >>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703If >>> so please let us know how you like it, as I'm thinking about >>> grabbingone. TIA See ya in the pits, >>> DeanI have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't >>> remember howlong it's been since I've forgotten anything. >>> >> > > Yup, that's the one. Widest thing I have desk space for, and only 1/2" > wider at the case than my big old (dead) 21" Dell CRT. Killer price point > they're hitting with that; there are cheaper ones but the Samsung looks to > be the only 22" out right now with an 8-bit panel. The color banding on > 6-bit panels always annoys me. Not much info out on them yet but you can > find a review here and there; looks to be best for gaming and general use, > maybe not the best for Artwork. Should be a good match for my purposes. > A review: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=336&p=1 > > Should have it in a couple of days - will let you know how it goes. > > SB >

In article <rEYRg.24952$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I am looking forward to trying the NGTs in GTR2. For some reason I have > never been a fan of the GTs, I prefer the 360s and 911s. > > Any feedback from those that have tried it so far? They're quite nice and very controllable on the edge. You can catch one if you get a little loose. I prefer the NGTs myself and I feel connected to the car just as I did in GTL (I love driving the Alfa against the Falcon and Mustang). -- Cheers, Rod.

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2DWRg.414$2g4.187@dukeread09... > No shit. I did not know that! > > -Larry Haven't tried the brake-first approach, but you can also edit the PLR file centering values to do it - here are mine from the "controls" section of the file (for a DFP). Note the center values for X-axis (steering), Y-axis (throttle) and RZ-axis (brake). With the pedal axis centers at 0.50, you only get response from the second half of the travel from your pedals. Axis [00, 00] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 X Axis [00, 00] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 00] Center="0.50000" // 0.0=min, 0.5=center, 1.0=max (use to correct centering or split-axis issues) Axis [00, 01] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 Y Axis [00, 01] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 01] Center="1.00000" Axis [00, 02] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 Z Axis [00, 02] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 02] Center="0.50000" Axis [00, 03] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 RX Axis [00, 03] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 03] Center="0.50000" Axis [00, 04] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 RY Axis [00, 04] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 04] Center="0.50000" Axis [00, 05] Dead Zone="0.40000" // Controller 1 RZ Axis [00, 05] Sensitivity="0.50000" Axis [00, 05] Center="1.00000" Cheers, SB

Not true. I usually calibrate thegas first, and never have this problem. -- David G Fisher "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2DWRg.414$2g4.187@dukeread09... > No shit. I did not know that! > > -Larry > > "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:NgURg.19761$[email hidden]... >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:pTSRg.403$2g4.278@dukeread09... >>>I noticed the exact same thing with my Black Momo pedals. It's more of a >>>switch than a gradual brake application. >>> >>> I noticed the same issues in rFactor. >>> >>> The accellerator is pretty notchy too. Nothing, nothing, nothing, >>> nothing, wham! There is almost no low-throttle modulation there. >>> >> >> In all ISI games, you get only half of the throttle movement if you first >> calibrate gas bedal and then brake pedal. So the first half is nothing >> and then it goes from 0 to 100% in the 50% of the pedal movement. >> >> You should calibrate/assign brake first and then throttle, to get the >> full motion of the gas pedal recognized. >> >> -- >> Mika Takala >> > >

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:22:15 GMT, Tony Rickard wrote: > > I am looking forward to trying the NGTs in GTR2. For some reason I have > never been a fan of the GTs, I prefer the 360s and 911s. > > Any feedback from those that have tried it so far? the Porsche RSR's are a hoot! Haven't tried the 360 yet, but started a 24h Porsche race at Hockenheim and was still on the track mostly undented after 20 minutes or so. Tells a lot about GTR2's newfound "controllability" ;-) Cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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> Not true. I usually calibrate thegas first, and never have this problem. > > > -- > David G Fisher > >

Well, I've had this problem with my MOMO Force since F1-2002, which was the first ISI sim I tried. I wonder if it is controller-specific problem. -- Mika Takala

Thanks Steve, I'll take a look at that. Am I the only one that thinks it's utterly ridiculous for a user to have to deal with this? Especially when the logitech's are _specifically_ supported by the game? -Larry "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2DWRg.414$2g4.187@dukeread09... >> No shit. I did not know that! >> >> -Larry > > Haven't tried the brake-first approach, but you can also edit the PLR file > centering values to do it - here are mine from the "controls" section of > the file (for a DFP). > > Note the center values for X-axis (steering), Y-axis (throttle) and > RZ-axis (brake). With the pedal axis centers at 0.50, you only get > response from the second half of the travel from your pedals. > > Axis [00, 00] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 X > Axis [00, 00] Sensitivity="0.50000" > Axis [00, 00] Center="0.50000" // 0.0=min, 0.5=center, 1.0=max (use to > correct centering or split-axis issues) > Axis [00, 01] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 Y > Axis [00, 01] Sensitivity="0.50000" > Axis [00, 01] Center="1.00000" > Axis [00, 02] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 Z > Axis [00, 02] Sensitivity="0.50000" > Axis [00, 02] Center="0.50000" > Axis [00, 03] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 RX > Axis [00, 03] Sensitivity="0.50000" > Axis [00, 03] Center="0.50000" > Axis [00, 04] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 RY > Axis [00, 04] Sensitivity="0.50000" > Axis [00, 04] Center="0.50000" > Axis [00, 05] Dead Zone="0.40000" // Controller 1 RZ > Axis [00, 05] Sensitivity="0.50000" > Axis [00, 05] Center="1.00000" > > Cheers, > > SB >

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> Thanks Steve, I'll take a look at that. > > Am I the only one that thinks it's utterly ridiculous for a user to have > to deal with this? Especially when the logitech's are _specifically_ > supported by the game? > > -Larry

You'll have to remember that DFP is not officially supported on PC at all. Momo Force is, so it should work, but just doesn't calibrate correctly in F1-2002, F1C, rFactor, GTR or GTR2(demo), without editing the PLR file or without calibrating the brake pedal first. -- Mika Takala

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> "Dave F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>Not true. I usually calibrate thegas first, and never have this problem. >> >> >>-- >>David G Fisher >> >> > > > Well, I've had this problem with my MOMO Force since F1-2002, which was the > first ISI sim I tried. I wonder if it is controller-specific problem. >

I use a Red MOMO Force and I have not had this problem either. -- Scott B. Husted http://www.RacingHistorian.com

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> Mika Takala wrote: > > "Dave F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > >>Not true. I usually calibrate thegas first, and never have this problem. > >> > >> > >>-- > >>David G Fisher > >> > >> > > > > > > Well, I've had this problem with my MOMO Force since F1-2002, which was

the > > first ISI sim I tried. I wonder if it is controller-specific problem. > > > > I use a Red MOMO Force and I have not had this problem either. > Ditto here as well, I do not see that with my original red MOMO Force, and F1Challenge 99-02 Don Burnette

> Had some fun with the driving school, learning mostly that my DFP pedals suck for brake modulation (but I already knew > that). > only last half of travel. Wouldn't you notice this in the controller setup menu? When moving the controls, the colored bars indicate the sensitivity and range of the different inputs.

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>> Had some fun with the driving school, learning mostly that my DFP pedals >> suck for brake modulation (but I already knew that). > >> only last half of travel. > > Wouldn't you notice this in the controller setup menu? When moving the > controls, the colored bars indicate the sensitivity and range of the > different inputs. >

Nope - as I recall it looks fine there even when it's not working right in car. But the DFP pedals pretty much suck even when you're getting full travel... ;-) SB

That's my point. The Momo is supported in the game by simple device selection, yet it doesn't work correctly. And apparantly hasn't for many years. Why can't they get this right? Is Gmotor simply defective in this regard? -Larry "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zliSg.20654$[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:BFcSg.450$2g4.316@dukeread09... >> Thanks Steve, I'll take a look at that. >> >> Am I the only one that thinks it's utterly ridiculous for a user to have >> to deal with this? Especially when the logitech's are _specifically_ >> supported by the game? >> >> -Larry > > You'll have to remember that DFP is not officially supported on PC at all. > Momo Force is, so it should work, but just doesn't calibrate correctly in > F1-2002, F1C, rFactor, GTR or GTR2(demo), without editing the PLR file or > without calibrating the brake pedal first. > > -- > Mika Takala >

It look ok on the controller menu, but in actual game the problem occurs. I started complaining about this back when rFactor was first released. -Larry "Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jFmSg.1218$ef2.934@fed1read09...

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>> Had some fun with the driving school, learning mostly that my DFP pedals >> suck for brake modulation (but I already knew that). > >> only last half of travel. > > Wouldn't you notice this in the controller setup menu? When moving the > controls, the colored bars indicate the sensitivity and range of the > different inputs. > > >

I picked it up during lunch time. See everyone online tonight! Pat Dotson Robert Jordan wrote:

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> Larry wrote: > > I don't get it. > > > > Hell, even _I_ bought it :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > well i bought it and the online play is great.. just cant believe more > people havent bought it or gotten online.. get off your butt , go spend > the 20.00 and lets race!!

> Ditto here as well, I do not see that with my original red MOMO Force, and > F1Challenge 99-02 It might be confined to the black momo and the DFP. I own both and they both give less throttle travel if I assign the throttle pedal first.

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> "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KsQRg.32$[email hidden]... >> Oops, bad link. Try this: >> >> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703 >> >> >> -- >> See ya in the pits, >> Dean >> >> I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how >> long it's been since I've forgotten anything. >> >> "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:CmQRg.31$[email hidden]... >>> "...new 22" widescreen already on the way..." >>> >>> Steve, would that be the new Samsung? >>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703If >>> so please let us know how you like it, as I'm thinking about >>> grabbingone. TIA See ya in the pits, >>> DeanI have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't >>> remember howlong it's been since I've forgotten anything. >>> >> > > Yup, that's the one. Widest thing I have desk space for, and only 1/2" > wider at the case than my big old (dead) 21" Dell CRT. Killer price point > they're hitting with that; there are cheaper ones but the Samsung looks to > be the only 22" out right now with an 8-bit panel. The color banding on > 6-bit panels always annoys me. Not much info out on them yet but you can > find a review here and there; looks to be best for gaming and general use, > maybe not the best for Artwork. Should be a good match for my purposes. > A review: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=336&p=1 > > Should have it in a couple of days - will let you know how it goes. > > SB

Just a followup to my promise to get back on the 225BW. Pretty much what I expected, a good gaming monitor but not top shelf in terms of graphics/text/color reproduction. Color sucked out of the box but with some teaking it's OK; only other issue is backlight bleed at the top/botom edges of the screen which you only notice in a dark room with near or black screen. Good bang for the buck if you're looking for screen real estate for gaming - compared to my Dell/Sony 21" CRT the screen's 1/4" shorter and 2&3/4" wider. Pared it up with a 7900GTX I picked up used to replace my 7800GTX; that was an eye-opener. Not anywhere near the improvement in performance I was hoping to see, and the IQ was initially better on the former. That may be a driver issue since I upgraded (?) from the 81.98's to the 91.47's with the card swap. Still tweaking... SB

Thanks for the update Steve. As I spend a lot more time in Photoshop than I do gaming, I may just have to scratch that monitor off my list. Gonna go to CompUSA and see if I can take one for a test drive before making a final decision though. Appreciate your comments. :-) -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:KsQRg.32$[email hidden]... >>> Oops, bad link. Try this: >>> >>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> See ya in the pits, >>> Dean >>> >>> I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember >>> how >>> long it's been since I've forgotten anything. >>> >>> "Dean Purdy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:CmQRg.31$[email hidden]... >>>> "...new 22" widescreen already on the way..." >>>> >>>> Steve, would that be the new Samsung? >>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7954886&st=samsung&type=product&id=1152837304703If >>>> so please let us know how you like it, as I'm thinking about >>>> grabbingone. TIA See ya in the pits, >>>> DeanI have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't >>>> remember howlong it's been since I've forgotten anything. >>>> >>> >> >> Yup, that's the one. Widest thing I have desk space for, and only 1/2" >> wider at the case than my big old (dead) 21" Dell CRT. Killer price >> point they're hitting with that; there are cheaper ones but the Samsung >> looks to be the only 22" out right now with an 8-bit panel. The color >> banding on 6-bit panels always annoys me. Not much info out on them yet >> but you can find a review here and there; looks to be best for gaming and >> general use, maybe not the best for Artwork. Should be a good match for >> my purposes. A review: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=336&p=1 >> >> Should have it in a couple of days - will let you know how it goes. >> >> SB > > Just a followup to my promise to get back on the 225BW. Pretty much what > I expected, a good gaming monitor but not top shelf in terms of > graphics/text/color reproduction. Color sucked out of the box but with > some teaking it's OK; only other issue is backlight bleed at the top/botom > edges of the screen which you only notice in a dark room with near or > black screen. Good bang for the buck if you're looking for screen real > estate for gaming - compared to my Dell/Sony 21" CRT the screen's 1/4" > shorter and 2&3/4" wider. Pared it up with a 7900GTX I picked up used to > replace my 7800GTX; that was an eye-opener. Not anywhere near the > improvement in performance I was hoping to see, and the IQ was initially > better on the former. That may be a driver issue since I upgraded (?) > from the 81.98's to the 91.47's with the card swap. Still tweaking... > > SB >