GTR VS GTR2?

For those of you have already gotten their copy of GTR2 -- What are your impressions so far? What's better? What's worse than GTR? I have the demo of GTR2 and, while the graphics are definitely improved, I'm not sure what else would convince a GTR owner to get GTR2. Just curious as to whether it's worthwhile to upgrade. Thanks!

BRH wrote: > For those of you have already gotten their copy of GTR2 -- What are your > impressions so far? What's better? What's worse than GTR? Better: the physics, the multiplayer, the assortment of cars and tracks, the various gmotor 2 graphical improvements + rain The Same: pretty much everything else Worse: can't think of anything

jason moyer wrote: > > Better: the physics, the multiplayer, the assortment of cars and > tracks, the various gmotor 2 graphical improvements + rain > The Same: pretty much everything else > Worse: can't think of anything I thought the main thing was no Starforce. :) Jone T.

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> BRH wrote: > >>For those of you have already gotten their copy of GTR2 -- What are your >>impressions so far? What's better? What's worse than GTR? > > > Better: the physics, the multiplayer, the assortment of cars and > tracks, the various gmotor 2 graphical improvements + rain > The Same: pretty much everything else > Worse: can't think of anything >

Any idea whether set-ups developed for GTR can be transferred over to GTR2? And does framerate take a significant hit with the new graphics (compared to GTR frame rates)? Thanks!

BRH wrote: > Any idea whether set-ups developed for GTR can be transferred over to > GTR2? And does framerate take a significant hit with the new graphics > (compared to GTR frame rates)? No idea on the first part, and it seems to run faster for me on my same antiquated system (Athlon 64 3200+, Radeon 9800 Pro 128, 512 megs RAM). I'd say the framerate performance is about the same as GT Legends if you have it.

Jone T. wrote: > I thought the main thing was no Starforce. :) I forgot about that, altho the new Securerom is almost as annoying. :( I don't like games that won't run using Game Jackal.

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> For those of you have already gotten their copy of GTR2 -- What are your > impressions so far? What's better? What's worse than GTR? > > I have the demo of GTR2 and, while the graphics are definitely improved, > I'm not sure what else would convince a GTR owner to get GTR2. > > Just curious as to whether it's worthwhile to upgrade. > > Thanks!

GTR 2 is not in New Zealand yet. But I will be getting it when it does

Actually, I've read this is gMotor-1 with enhancements, and the gMotor-2 graphics engine. In other words, a Hybrid. -Larry "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> BRH wrote: >> For those of you have already gotten their copy of GTR2 -- What are your >> impressions so far? What's better? What's worse than GTR? > > Better: the physics, the multiplayer, the assortment of cars and > tracks, the various gmotor 2 graphical improvements + rain > The Same: pretty much everything else > Worse: can't think of anything >

At least it's 100% contained on the CD, and does not install useless, buggy drivers and other crap on your hard drive. -Larry "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Jone T. wrote: > >> I thought the main thing was no Starforce. :) > > I forgot about that, altho the new Securerom is almost as annoying. :( > I don't like games that won't run using Game Jackal. >

jason moyer wrote:

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> BRH wrote: > >> Any idea whether set-ups developed for GTR can be transferred over to >> GTR2? And does framerate take a significant hit with the new graphics >> (compared to GTR frame rates)? > > No idea on the first part, and it seems to run faster for me on my same > antiquated system (Athlon 64 3200+, Radeon 9800 Pro 128, 512 megs RAM). > I'd say the framerate performance is about the same as GT Legends if > you have it. >

i can take the first part... yes your GTR setups can be copied into their proper place in GTR2 and will work just as well -- with a couple tweaks. for instance, available gear ratios of the cars are different in GTR2, so you'll have to retest that. barrett

"Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > At least it's 100% contained on the CD, and does not install useless, buggy > drivers and other crap on your hard drive. So they have left Starforce!? Excellent. How does the new stuff work? No drivers and ring-1 software? In that case I wish I had the money to buy it... /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Larry wrote: > Actually, I've read this is gMotor-1 with enhancements, and the gMotor-2 > graphics engine. > > In other words, a Hybrid. > > -Larry That would probably be why it seems so similar to GT Legends. I do with they had used the same ambient light levels as GTL, however, as the graphics end up looking far worse than they should. If you plug the ambient light info from a GTL track into a GTR2 track it looks stunning...if you don't mind online mismatch errors. :(

If it's like previous SecuRom, it's all contained on the CD. -Larry "Andreas Davour" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > >> At least it's 100% contained on the CD, and does not install useless, >> buggy >> drivers and other crap on your hard drive. > > So they have left Starforce!? Excellent. > > How does the new stuff work? No drivers and ring-1 software? > > In that case I wish I had the money to buy it... > > /andreas > > -- > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

"Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > If it's like previous SecuRom, it's all contained on the CD. Gotta research that. Thx. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

On 25 Sep 2006 19:44:46 +0200, Andreas Davour wrote:

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > >> If it's like previous SecuRom, it's all contained on the CD. > > Gotta research that. Thx. > > /andreas

And you bwill find he is wrong. Securom puts a hidden entry in the registry which I found with a rootkit revealer and hidden drivers which you can find in device manager under hidden devices. Just like Starforce. Depends on which version of Securom though.

Sorry, bottom posting makes absolutely zero sense. Your funny little quip at the end will never change me or my opinion on this subject :) -Larry "Andreas Davour" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > >> If it's like previous SecuRom, it's all contained on the CD. > > Gotta research that. Thx. > > /andreas > > -- > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Older versions did not do that. File names/registry key's please? -Larry "Garrot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 25 Sep 2006 19:44:46 +0200, Andreas Davour wrote: > >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: >> >>> If it's like previous SecuRom, it's all contained on the CD. >> >> Gotta research that. Thx. >> >> /andreas > > > And you bwill find he is wrong. Securom puts a hidden entry in the > registry > which I found with a rootkit revealer and hidden drivers which you can > find > in device manager under hidden devices. Just like Starforce. Depends on > which version of Securom though.

In article <bBWRg.412$2g4.300@dukeread09>, [email hidden] says... > Sorry, bottom posting makes absolutely zero sense. Your funny little quip > at the end will never change me or my opinion on this subject :) > > -Larry > http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting http://experts.about.com/e/t/to/Top-posting.htm I feel that I just wasted my time though, seeing as how that sig 'makes no sense' to you. Lots of words on web pages just may be way more than you can handle. But hey, you do what's easiest for YOU, who cares about if anyone else can understand what's going on in one of your misquoted replies. That is their problem, right? MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8 SEARCHING FOR GPL LOADING READY. RUN

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:02:18 -0400, Larry wrote: > Sorry, bottom posting makes absolutely zero sense. Your funny little quip > at the end will never change me or my opinion on this subject :) > > -Larry Might not make sense to you, mate, but don't mistake yourself for all of humanity. ;-) Never say never. Ah, a good old netiquette fight, haven't seen one of those in a long time. cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

The problem is all you bottom feeders refuse to be assimilated :) -Larry "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Might not make sense to you, mate, but don't mistake yourself for all of > humanity. ;-) Never say never. Ah, a good old netiquette fight, haven't > seen one of those in a long time. > > cheers, uwe

LOL - - count me in as an abhorrent top-poster "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:02:18 -0400, Larry wrote: >> Sorry, bottom posting makes absolutely zero sense. Your funny little >> quip >> at the end will never change me or my opinion on this subject :) >> >> -Larry > > Might not make sense to you, mate, but don't mistake yourself for all of > humanity. ;-) Never say never. Ah, a good old netiquette fight, haven't > seen one of those in a long time. > > cheers, uwe > > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Garrot <[email hidden]> writes:

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> On 25 Sep 2006 19:44:46 +0200, Andreas Davour wrote: > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > >> If it's like previous SecuRom, it's all contained on the CD. > > > > Gotta research that. Thx. > > And you bwill find he is wrong. Securom puts a hidden entry in the registry > which I found with a rootkit revealer and hidden drivers which you can find > in device manager under hidden devices. Just like Starforce. Depends on > which version of Securom though.

Damn. Thx. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?