GPL stuttering on new CPU

Hi folks once upon a time I had a Abit KT7A RAID Duron 800 Geforce 2MX SB Live Value and GPL played like a dream. Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when 2/3 cars following closely. So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 drivers with little success. Ian

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> Hi folks > > once upon a time I had a > > Abit KT7A RAID > Duron 800 > Geforce 2MX > SB Live Value > > and GPL played like a dream. > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > 2/3 cars following closely. > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > drivers with little success.

CPU patch? Malc.

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> "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi folks > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > Duron 800 > > Geforce 2MX > > SB Live Value > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > > 2/3 cars following closely. > >

I have the same problem KG7 board 1.4 TBird and the patch.

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> Hi folks > > once upon a time I had a > > Abit KT7A RAID > Duron 800 > Geforce 2MX > SB Live Value > > and GPL played like a dream. > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > 2/3 cars following closely. > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > drivers with little success. > > Ian

Do you have the latest BIOS for your MB? It may need it for proper XP CPU support. You also have to reinstall the OS to get proper support for the SSE instructions on the newer XP CPU. I managed to accomplish this with an upgrade install of 98SE over the existing install on my 98 gaming system, but it was a bit of a mess - I'd recommend a full reinstall if you don't have nearly 100 games like I do ;). HTH, Kendt

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> > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks > > > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > > Duron 800 > > > Geforce 2MX > > > SB Live Value > > > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > > I have the same problem KG7 board 1.4 TBird and the patch. > >

Same problem here, XP1700+ I have the patch. The only thing that makes it fluid is to set the sound acceleration to off. There must be something weird about the sound-system in GPL. /Carl

I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT KR7A-R XP1600 and a SB Live card. http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud Driver "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi folks > > once upon a time I had a > > Abit KT7A RAID > Duron 800 > Geforce 2MX > SB Live Value > > and GPL played like a dream. > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > 2/3 cars following closely. > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > drivers with little success. > > Ian > >

"Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT KR7A-R > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > I don't use a SB card I have a Santa Cruz so goes that theory.

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:33:24 -0700, Jon T <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... >> I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT KR7A-R >> XP1600 and a SB Live card. >> > I don't use a SB card I have a Santa Cruz so goes that theory. >

I have similar stuttering and I have identified that my problem is caused by msff wheel with usb connector. There is something weird about usb msff and gpl when using force feedback. Always enormous stuttering if there's more than 3 cars at the same time on screen. But if I configure force feedback off from core.ini, the stuttering is gone immediately! I can race full grid without any problems... And this is for off-line races only, on-line races don't have any stuttering even with force feedback configured on.

through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead :) "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]...

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> I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT KR7A-R > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud > > Driver > > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi folks > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > Duron 800 > > Geforce 2MX > > SB Live Value > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > > drivers with little success. > > > > Ian > > > > > >

What cards do you consider "GPL safe"? Peter Jensen wrote:

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> through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead :) > > "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... > > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT KR7A-R > > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > > > > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud > > > > Driver > > > > > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks > > > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > > Duron 800 > > > Geforce 2MX > > > SB Live Value > > > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > > > drivers with little success. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > >

Yes, maybe this one? : http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=26039&t=867&l=2&AvdID=1&Cat ID=16&GrpID=3&s=pl "Peter Jensen" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:aptupk$2odg$[email hidden]...

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> through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead :) > > > "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... > > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT KR7A-R > > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > > > > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud > > > > Driver > > > > > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks > > > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > > Duron 800 > > > Geforce 2MX > > > SB Live Value > > > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when > > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > > > drivers with little success. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > >

audgedy ( or what its called ..... as sb thingy) or a fortismo from hercules "c beaudouin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> What cards do you consider "GPL safe"? > > Peter Jensen wrote: > > > through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead :) > > > > "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... > > > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT

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> > > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > > > > > > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud > > > > > > Driver > > > > > > > > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > > > Duron 800 > > > > Geforce 2MX > > > > SB Live Value > > > > > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp.

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> > > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > > > > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > > > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > > > > drivers with little success. > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

on a side note, I did my self had a live card and had the same from time to time when I run GPL on every thing ells that win blows 98 , but after a audegy card got into the play it all dissapeard :) "c beaudouin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> What cards do you consider "GPL safe"? > > Peter Jensen wrote: > > > through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead :) > > > > "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... > > > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT

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> > > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > > > > > > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud > > > > > > Driver > > > > > > > > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > > > Duron 800 > > > > Geforce 2MX > > > > SB Live Value > > > > > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp.

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> > > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > > > > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - > > > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > > > > drivers with little success. > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I had a Fortisimo II and it locked up GPL after 2 or 3 laps. Went back to my Sb Live. "Peter Jensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:apv1av$s4c$[email hidden]... > audgedy ( or what its called ..... as sb thingy) or a fortismo fromhercules

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> > > "c beaudouin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What cards do you consider "GPL safe"? > > > > Peter Jensen wrote: > > > > > through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead

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> > > > > > "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... > > > > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT > KR7A-R > > > > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > > > > > > > > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud > > > > > > > > Driver > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > > > > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > > > > Duron 800 > > > > > Geforce 2MX > > > > > SB Live Value > > > > > > > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > > > > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. > when > > > > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > > > > > > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience

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> > > > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > > > > > drivers with little success. > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I heard allot of good stories of GPL and fortismo 2 , on contrary to the sb live card :) "ChrisG27 >" <<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uLJw9.19365$[email hidden]... > I had a Fortisimo II and it locked up GPL after 2 or 3 laps. Went back tomy

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> Sb Live. > "Peter Jensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:apv1av$s4c$[email hidden]... > > audgedy ( or what its called ..... as sb thingy) or a fortismo from > hercules > > > > > > "c beaudouin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > What cards do you consider "GPL safe"? > > > > > > Peter Jensen wrote: > > > > > > > through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead > :) > > > > > > > > "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... > > > > > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT > > KR7A-R > > > > > XP1600 and a SB Live card. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud > > > > > > > > > > Driver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > > > > > > > once upon a time I had a > > > > > > > > > > > > Abit KT7A RAID > > > > > > Duron 800 > > > > > > Geforce 2MX > > > > > > SB Live Value > > > > > > > > > > > > and GPL played like a dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters,

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> > when > > > > > > 2/3 cars following closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience > it - > > > > > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 > > > > > > drivers with little success. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

some very good answers to my original query, most of which I have investigated. The central point is that unitl the CPU swap, the thing was running perfectly in all games. Now i have these problems. It seems to point the finger at the updated BIOS I think ....... ian On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:52:39 +0100, "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Yes, maybe this one? : >http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?action=info&p=26039&t=867&l=2&AvdID=1&Cat >ID=16&GrpID=3&s=pl > > > >"Peter Jensen" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding >news:aptupk$2odg$[email hidden]... >> through that sound card in the bin and buy a "GPL safe card" instead :) >> >> >> "Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:ympw9.200710$[email hidden]... >> > I think it`s the SB Live card, I have the same problem with ABIT KR7A-R >> > XP1600 and a SB Live card. >> > >> > http://www.sudhian.com/faqs.cfm/fid/7/fcid/1.sud >> > >> > Driver >> > >> > >> > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding >> > news:[email hidden]... >> > > Hi folks >> > > >> > > once upon a time I had a >> > > >> > > Abit KT7A RAID >> > > Duron 800 >> > > Geforce 2MX >> > > SB Live Value >> > > >> > > and GPL played like a dream. >> > > >> > > Put in a Athlon XP1700 today, and have the dreaded stutters, esp. when >> > > 2/3 cars following closely. >> > > >> > > So the problems is due the CPU upgrade - anyone else experience it - >> > > and any answers - BTW have looked at SB Live drivers, VIA 4-in1 >> > > drivers with little success. >> > > >> > > Ian >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > >

In article <uLJw9.19365$[email hidden]>, <[email hidden]>> (ChrisG27) wrote: > I had a Fortisimo II and it locked up GPL after 2 or 3 laps. Went back > to my > Sb Live. I've got a Fortissimo2 here and GPL works great, no probs at all. 8-) *Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

Puuhh, had the same prob on a XP 1500, solved it awhile ago. I made thousands of adjustments and don't really remember what did the trick. Iirc, downgrading my nvidia drivers to 21.83 was a good idea. Also trying some different slots for the SBlife. Anyhow, for some cleanup take out the sblife and erase whatever programs are refering to it. Also clean out the registry. Then reinstall *not* from the retail CD but only the latest WWW-download (quite old already, but working for my Win98-setup). HTH JensSchumi On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:04:29 +0000, Ian Greenwood <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi folks > >once upon a time I had a<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

I had the exact same problems with my Fortissimo II, whenever I tried to use it in GPL, I'd have a lockup within 2 or 3 laps. I ended up ditching that as well as my SB and using the onboard audio for my MSI KT333A based mobo, I think it's an Avance AC/97. I get some nasty popping sometimes from the sound, but at least it works.... "ChrisG27" <<[email hidden]>> wrote in message news:<uLJw9.19365$[email hidden]>... > I had a Fortisimo II and it locked up GPL after 2 or 3 laps. Went back to my > Sb Live.

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> In article <uLJw9.19365$[email hidden]>, > <[email hidden]>> (ChrisG27) wrote: > > > I had a Fortisimo II and it locked up GPL after 2 or 3 laps. Went back > > to my > > Sb Live. > > I've got a Fortissimo2 here and GPL works great, no probs at all. > > 8-) > > *Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/

Are you using the most up to date drivers with this? I recently installed the newish drivers from Hercules, and now every time I have an off (quite frequent, still learning!) the sound goes into a 1-2 second loop and the game stalls - I have to ctrl-alt-del... (WinME, CelII566@850, 6BTM mobo, 30gig WD drive, Inno3D GF2ti, Hercules Fortissimo II etc etc) Matt

Matt, I the latest drivers but it was during the summer. They didn't help. ChrisG27 "Matt Larkin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] wrote in messagenews:<aq3or2$li0$[email hidden]>...

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> > In article <uLJw9.19365$[email hidden]>, > > <[email hidden]>> (ChrisG27) wrote: > > > > > I had a Fortisimo II and it locked up GPL after 2 or 3 laps. Went back > > > to my > > > Sb Live. > > > > I've got a Fortissimo2 here and GPL works great, no probs at all. > > > > 8-) > > > > *Peter* - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petergagg/ > > Are you using the most up to date drivers with this? I recently > installed the newish drivers from Hercules, and now every time I have > an off (quite frequent, still learning!) the sound goes into a 1-2 > second loop and the game stalls - I have to ctrl-alt-del... > > (WinME, CelII566@850, 6BTM mobo, 30gig WD drive, Inno3D GF2ti, > Hercules Fortissimo II etc etc) > > Matt