Buying New System

Asus A7V8X, AMD XP2000, 512mb Corsair PC2700, ATI 9700 Pro, SB Audigy, Thermaltake sink/fan - $788 I figure I can cheapout a bit on the CPU because it gives me a less expensive upgrade path to a faster CPU sometime next year (after NR2K3 comes out). Should run NR2K2 (with Tom's scenery updates) and GPL just fine I expect... :) -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Asus A7V8X, AMD XP2000, 512mb Corsair PC2700, ATI 9700 Pro, SB Audigy, > Thermaltake sink/fan - $788 > > I figure I can cheapout a bit on the CPU because it gives me a less > expensive upgrade path to a faster CPU sometime next year (after NR2K3 > comes out). > > Should run NR2K2 (with Tom's scenery updates) and GPL just fine I > expect... :)

You are not wrong. I run an 1800XP with Ti4200, N2K2 @1024x968 32 bit with full draw distance (hate popup!), 42 cars ahead (hate popup!), Tom's updates, no dropping below 30 fps. No AA, No reflections (reflections on I hit high 20s at the start). no aniso (well, duh!). GPL is also pretty sweet - if only I could solve the SBLive issues I have. Tried *everything* short of swapping out the card itself. Let me know how you get on with the Audigy. Cheers, Mark Reading, UK

Everyone says the difference between the Live! card and the Audigy is like night and day. Too bad Xp is the culprit. Regards, Charlie "Mark Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aq1jo0$7db$[email hidden]...

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> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Asus A7V8X, AMD XP2000, 512mb Corsair PC2700, ATI 9700 Pro, SB Audigy, > > Thermaltake sink/fan - $788 > > > > I figure I can cheapout a bit on the CPU because it gives me a less > > expensive upgrade path to a faster CPU sometime next year (after NR2K3 > > comes out). > > > > Should run NR2K2 (with Tom's scenery updates) and GPL just fine I > > expect... :) > > > You are not wrong. I run an 1800XP with Ti4200, N2K2 @1024x968 32 bit

with > full draw distance (hate popup!), 42 cars ahead (hate popup!), Tom's > updates, no dropping below 30 fps. > > No AA, No reflections (reflections on I hit high 20s at the start). noaniso

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> (well, duh!). > > GPL is also pretty sweet - if only I could solve the SBLive issues I have. > Tried *everything* short of swapping out the card itself. Let me know how > you get on with the Audigy. > > Cheers, > > Mark > Reading, UK > > >

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> > Asus A7V8X, AMD XP2000, 512mb Corsair PC2700, ATI 9700 Pro, SB Audigy, > Thermaltake sink/fan - $788 > > I figure I can cheapout a bit on the CPU because it gives me a less > expensive upgrade path to a faster CPU sometime next year (after NR2K3 > comes out). > > Should run NR2K2 (with Tom's scenery updates) and GPL just fine I > expect... :)

I would think so :-), I have the same MoBo John, with a 2200+ and a 8500LE, waiting for the price on the 9700 to drop a bit, been running very stable so far Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

The only thing I would _personally_ do different is get a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card instead of the Audigy. But that's just me :) -Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Asus A7V8X, AMD XP2000, 512mb Corsair PC2700, ATI 9700 Pro, SB Audigy, > Thermaltake sink/fan - $788 > > I figure I can cheapout a bit on the CPU because it gives me a less > expensive upgrade path to a faster CPU sometime next year (after NR2K3 > comes out). > > Should run NR2K2 (with Tom's scenery updates) and GPL just fine I > expect... :) > > > -- > ========================================================= > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================

It's on order, and I should have it by Thursday. Probably not in time for the Phoenix RASCAR race, but oh well. The only change I made was to step down one notch on the CPU to a XP 1900. It was almost $20 cheaper than the 2000, and I figure $20 for 70Mhz is really not a) worth it, and b) not gonna be noticeable as far as performance goes. Total price (including shipping) was $800. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Eagerly awaiting your opinion of the 9700. I have the same system, except for the mb. Debating whether or not I would see enough of an improvement over my ti4200 to justify the cost. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> It's on order, and I should have it by Thursday. Probably not in time > for the Phoenix RASCAR race, but oh well. The only change I made was to > step down one notch on the CPU to a XP 1900. It was almost $20 cheaper > than the 2000, and I figure $20 for 70Mhz is really not a) worth it, and > b) not gonna be noticeable as far as performance goes. > > Total price (including shipping) was $800. > > > > -- > ========================================================= > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================

Your choice of motherboard could make a huge difference. Besides that, it's an AGP8X card, so again, your mileage will vary. However, Tom's Hardware did a review of this card on a KT333 motherboard, and it out- performed the Ti4600 by leaps and bounds. In article <_jDx9.5890$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Eagerly awaiting your opinion of the 9700. I have the same system, except > for the mb. Debating whether or not I would see enough of an improvement > over my ti4200 to justify the cost. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It's on order, and I should have it by Thursday. Probably not in time > > for the Phoenix RASCAR race, but oh well. The only change I made was to > > step down one notch on the CPU to a XP 1900. It was almost $20 cheaper > > than the 2000, and I figure $20 for 70Mhz is really not a) worth it, and > > b) not gonna be noticeable as far as performance goes. > > > > Total price (including shipping) was $800. > > > >

-- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

I was waiting for the AIW 9700 Pro, and finally it's here. BUT (dammit, ATI always leaves ONE thing out of their AIW's I need), it appears the AIW version does not support dual-monitors like the standard 9700 Pro does. -Larry "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_jDx9.5890$[email hidden]...

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> Eagerly awaiting your opinion of the 9700. I have the same system, except > for the mb. Debating whether or not I would see enough of an improvement > over my ti4200 to justify the cost. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It's on order, and I should have it by Thursday. Probably not in time > > for the Phoenix RASCAR race, but oh well. The only change I made was to > > step down one notch on the CPU to a XP 1900. It was almost $20 cheaper > > than the 2000, and I figure $20 for 70Mhz is really not a) worth it, and > > b) not gonna be noticeable as far as performance goes. > > > > Total price (including shipping) was $800. > > > > > > > > -- > > ========================================================= > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > RASCAR Roster > > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > ========================================================= > > >

Would you by any chance know if they ever worked out that business with the AIW cards not capturing sound in sync with the video? "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LY9y9.8670$[email hidden]... > I was waiting for the AIW 9700 Pro, and finally it's here. BUT (dammit,ATI

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> always leaves ONE thing out of their AIW's I need), it appears the AIW > version does not support dual-monitors like the standard 9700 Pro does. > > -Larry > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_jDx9.5890$[email hidden]... > > Eagerly awaiting your opinion of the 9700. I have the same system,

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> > for the mb. Debating whether or not I would see enough of an improvement > > over my ti4200 to justify the cost. > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > It's on order, and I should have it by Thursday. Probably not in time > > > for the Phoenix RASCAR race, but oh well. The only change I made was

to > > > step down one notch on the CPU to a XP 1900. It was almost $20cheaper > > > than the 2000, and I figure $20 for 70Mhz is really not a) worth it,and

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> > > b) not gonna be noticeable as far as performance goes. > > > > > > Total price (including shipping) was $800. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ========================================================= > > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > > RASCAR Roster > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > > ========================================================= > > > > > > > >

Sorry, don't know. -Larry "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vSby9.31$[email hidden]... > Would you by any chance know if they ever worked out that business withthe

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> AIW cards not capturing sound in sync with the video? > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:LY9y9.8670$[email hidden]... > > I was waiting for the AIW 9700 Pro, and finally it's here. BUT (dammit, > ATI > > always leaves ONE thing out of their AIW's I need), it appears the AIW > > version does not support dual-monitors like the standard 9700 Pro does. > > > > -Larry > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:_jDx9.5890$[email hidden]... > > > Eagerly awaiting your opinion of the 9700. I have the same system, > except > > > for the mb. Debating whether or not I would see enough of an

improvement > > > over my ti4200 to justify the cost. > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > It's on order, and I should have it by Thursday. Probably not intime > > > > for the Phoenix RASCAR race, but oh well. The only change I madewas

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> to > > > > step down one notch on the CPU to a XP 1900. It was almost $20 > cheaper > > > > than the 2000, and I figure $20 for 70Mhz is really not a) worth it, > and > > > > b) not gonna be noticeable as far as performance goes. > > > > > > > > Total price (including shipping) was $800. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ========================================================= > > > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > > > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > > > > RASCAR Roster > > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > > > > Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) > > > > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > > > > > > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > > > > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > > > > ========================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >