disk thrashing (was GPL stuttering on new CPU)

right to update the problem, my system was Duron 800 Abit KT7A raid v1.0 256MB PC133 SBLive Value Geforce 2MX 32MB HD,DVD, etc and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, no success. anyone any ideas ?? PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo ian

Several things to try: 1. Reduce sound hardware acceleration down a notch or two 2. Latest video drivers from your video card manufacturer or if the card supports the native drivers--from the Nvidia website 3. Latest via 4-1 drivers from the motherbaord manufacturers website or from the chipset manufacturer regards B "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> right to update the problem, my system was > > Duron 800 > Abit KT7A raid v1.0 > 256MB PC133 > SBLive Value > Geforce 2MX 32MB > HD,DVD, etc > > and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the > BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a > sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity > just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle > down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, > no success. > > anyone any ideas ?? > > PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo > > ian

Get more ram.. 256mb is equal to 0 ram and considering the system you are running your wasting money with out atleast 512mb IMO. Good Luck, Charlie "B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aq1bvm$lt$[email hidden]... > Several things to try: > > 1. Reduce sound hardware acceleration down a notch or two > 2. Latest video drivers from your video card manufacturer or if the card > supports the native drivers--from the Nvidia website > 3. Latest via 4-1 drivers from the motherbaord manufacturers website orfrom

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> the chipset manufacturer > > regards > > B > > "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > right to update the problem, my system was > > > > Duron 800 > > Abit KT7A raid v1.0 > > 256MB PC133 > > SBLive Value > > Geforce 2MX 32MB > > HD,DVD, etc > > > > and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the > > BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a > > sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity > > just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle > > down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, > > no success. > > > > anyone any ideas ?? > > > > PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo > > > > ian > > >

Hi. I don't think its going to be related to either of the other two suggestions. Its more likely that your system didn't detect or install the BUS Mastering IDE controller driver for your hard disks, that is on your new motherboard. On your system, go into device setup, and have a look at your IDE controller. You should be able to drill down to your hard drive(s) and it will show if they are running PIO or DMA mode. My best is you'll find they reverted to PIO mode when you installed the new motherboard. This would explain your symptoms perfectly. With the driver controller operating in PIO mode, there are two downsides. The first is that disk activity will chew up a lot of CPU time - more than 50% when thrashing as opposed to less than 5% in DMA mode. The 2nd downside is that PIO mode is interrupt driven. This means that your system is generating an interrupt for each and every hard drive call. As these interrupts are non-maskable, you'll get stuttering on all your applications when the hard drive is active. To resolve this problem, read your motherboard manual, and establish what brand of IDE controller is used. Go the web site of that manufacture and download the driver. These days, most manufactuers have an all in one type driver installation package that will automatically detect and install the correct IDE driver for your motherboard. Good luck, Tim "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> right to update the problem, my system was > > Duron 800 > Abit KT7A raid v1.0 > 256MB PC133 > SBLive Value > Geforce 2MX 32MB > HD,DVD, etc > > and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the > BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a > sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity > just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle > down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, > no success. > > anyone any ideas ?? > > PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo > > ian

i was thinking more in terms of adjusting the Windows swap file. GPL was originally supposed to run in just 32MB of RAM dammit !!! any comments ? On Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:04:50 GMT, "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Get more ram.. 256mb is equal to 0 ram and considering the system you are >running your wasting money with out atleast 512mb IMO. > > Good Luck, > > Charlie > > >"B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:aq1bvm$lt$[email hidden]... >> Several things to try: >> >> 1. Reduce sound hardware acceleration down a notch or two >> 2. Latest video drivers from your video card manufacturer or if the card >> supports the native drivers--from the Nvidia website >> 3. Latest via 4-1 drivers from the motherbaord manufacturers website or >from >> the chipset manufacturer >> >> regards >> >> B >> >> "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > right to update the problem, my system was >> > >> > Duron 800 >> > Abit KT7A raid v1.0 >> > 256MB PC133 >> > SBLive Value >> > Geforce 2MX 32MB >> > HD,DVD, etc >> > >> > and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the >> > BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a >> > sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity >> > just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle >> > down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, >> > no success. >> > >> > anyone any ideas ?? >> > >> > PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo >> > >> > ian >> >> >> >

Try Cacheman, fixes my disk thrashing. http://www.outertech.com/product.php?product=3&PHPSESSID=d5b7613e59790ef9668 647b40ffaf667 Sid. "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> right to update the problem, my system was > > Duron 800 > Abit KT7A raid v1.0 > 256MB PC133 > SBLive Value > Geforce 2MX 32MB > HD,DVD, etc > > and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the > BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a > sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity > just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle > down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, > no success. > > anyone any ideas ?? > > PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo > > ian

Not trying to state the obvious, but... 0. What OS are you running? Anything after WinME requires a lot of RAM/Disk Space just to get the OS going comfortably. 1. When was the last time you defragged the hard drive? 2. How much free space is there? 3. Does your hard drive have a built-in cache? 4. Do you have a properly sized swap file? "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> right to update the problem, my system was > > Duron 800 > Abit KT7A raid v1.0 > 256MB PC133 > SBLive Value > Geforce 2MX 32MB > HD,DVD, etc > > and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the > BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a > sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity > just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle > down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, > no success. > > anyone any ideas ?? > > PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo > > ian

If you're unning xp and just installed it I wouldn't worry about it yet, it seems a few people have stuttering problems for a couple of days after installation, and with me it stopped after a couple of days and everything's fine now. "Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> right to update the problem, my system was > > Duron 800 > Abit KT7A raid v1.0 > 256MB PC133 > SBLive Value > Geforce 2MX 32MB > HD,DVD, etc > > and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the > BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a > sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity > just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle > down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, > no success. > > anyone any ideas ?? > > PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo > > ian

its on win98se On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:08:06 +1100, "John Pickett" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>If you're unning xp and just installed it I wouldn't worry about it yet, it >seems a few people have stuttering problems for a couple of days after >installation, and with me it stopped after a couple of days and everything's >fine now. > > >"Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> right to update the problem, my system was >> >> Duron 800 >> Abit KT7A raid v1.0 >> 256MB PC133 >> SBLive Value >> Geforce 2MX 32MB >> HD,DVD, etc >> >> and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the >> BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a >> sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity >> just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle >> down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, >> no success. >> >> anyone any ideas ?? >> >> PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo >> >> ian >

"Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > its on win98se > Have you locked your Windows swap file at a fixed number? Have you tried the opengl fix, available, I "think" on racesim central? Have you disabled FSAA, Anistropic and any other graphic enhancement? Have you over-clocked your vid-card?(if so try resetting to the default speed) Have you tried using enditall2 to shutdown the various background programs that are running? Turned OFF force feedback? good luck dave henrie

Don't think so. JensSchumi On Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:04:50 GMT, "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Get more ram.. 256mb is equal to 0 ram and considering the system you are >running your wasting money with out atleast 512mb IMO. > > Good Luck, > > Charlie >

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for anyone who faces probelm in futurte, i think (hope) I have solved it by doing a thorough disk defrag and reorder using Nuts and Bolts. Had to leave PC on for a whole day for it to do all this mind Ian On Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:07:14 +0000, Ian Greenwood <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>right to update the problem, my system was > >Duron 800 >Abit KT7A raid v1.0 >256MB PC133 >SBLive Value >Geforce 2MX 32MB >HD,DVD, etc > >and my games ran fine. I upgraded to a Athlon XP1700, updated the >BIOS, and noticed signifacent stuttering. Turns out that it was not a >sound card problem or anything like that. There is hard disk activity >just for the first couple of minutes of play that then seems to settle >down. I have tried reducing the AGP Aperture size from 128MB to 26MB, >no success. > >anyone any ideas ?? > >PS also a problem on Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo > >ian

"Ian Greenwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > for anyone who faces probelm in futurte, i think (hope) I have solved > it by doing a thorough disk defrag and reorder using Nuts and Bolts. > Had to leave PC on for a whole day for it to do all this mind Glad you found a solution ;-) Get yourself some more RAM for Xmas ;-) Malc.